McCain Charges Obama of “Failure”
DENVER–
Speaking in front of a crowd of Hispanic-American veterans, John McCain used some of his harshest rhetoric yet to go after Barack Obama for not supporting the Iraqi troop surge and his rival’s 16-month withdrawal policy. The attacks were the same focus the presumptive Republican nominee has had all week, but his language escalated today to more pointed, scathing attacks accusing his Democratic opponent of attempting to legislate defeat in Iraq, cutting troop funding, and “choosing failure” in the Iraq War:
“Senator Obama said this week that even knowing what he knows today that he still, still would have opposed the surge. In retrospect, given the opportunity to choose between failure and success, he chose failure. I cannot conceive of a Commander in Chief making that choice,” McCain said.
“Fortunately, Senator Obama failed, not our military. We rejected the audacity of hopelessness, and we were right,” McCain continued, “Violence in Iraq fell to such low levels for such a long time that Senator Obama, detecting the success he never believed possible, falsely claimed that he had always predicted it.”
McCain addressed the annual convention of the American G.I. Forum—a Mexican-American veterans’ service organization here. It was a very receptive crowd who cheered their fellow veteran when he took the stage.
The Republican nominee-in-waiting accused Obama of predicting the failure of American troops in Iraq— again leveling the scathing failure charge:
“Senator Obama made a different choice. He not only opposed the new strategy, but actually tried to prevent us from implementing it. He didn’t just advocate defeat, he tried to legislate it. When his efforts failed, he continued to predict the failure of our troops,” McCain said.
The McCain campaign has launched both television and radio ads accusing the Illinois Democrat of cutting off funding for troops fighting in Iraq. The attack refers to the one time Obama voted against and does not mention at least the ten times the presumptive Democratic nominee voted for funding—that did not stop McCain from continuing to direct that charge today at his rival adding that Obama would have rather lost in Iraq to win in Afghanistan:
“And as our troops took the fight to the enemy, Senator Obama tried to cut off funding for them. He was one of only 14 senators to vote against the emergency funding in May 2007 that supported our troops in Iraq and in Afghanistan,” McCain said, “He would rather choose to lose in Iraq in hopes of winning in Afghanistan. But had his position been adopted, we would have lost both wars.”
McCain is trying to make his opponent look like he is putting politics before average Americans–he pressed that today, “Senator Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth. From the early days of this war, I feared the administration was pursuing a mistaken strategy, and I said so.”
The Obama campaign responded to the attacks calling McCain’s rhetoric “angry” and “false.” The campaign pressed that both candidate support the troops, “The American people are looking for a serious debate about the way forward in Iraq and Afghanistan, and angry, false accusations will do nothing to accomplish that goal. Barack Obama and John McCain may differ over our strategy in Iraq, but they are united in their support for our brave troops and their desire to protect this nation,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an e-mailed statement, “Senator McCain’s constant suggestion otherwise is not worthy of the campaign he claimed he would run or the magnitude of the challenges this nation faces.”
Besides attacking Obama, McCain also praised Hispanic veterans, trying to woo the important Latino voting bloc. He told a story about a Hispanic Vietnam war hero, which earned him a standing ovation from the crowd and then acknowledged the sacrifice Hispanic veterans have made for the country–some of them not even citizens yet:
“Let me close by expressing my gratitude for the contributions of Hispanic-Americans have made to the security of the country that I have served all my adult life,” McCain said, “When you take the solemn stroll along that wall of black granite on the national Mall, it is hard not to notice the many names such as Rodriguez, Hernandez, and Lopez that so sadly adorn it. When you visit Iraq and Afghanistan you meet some of the thousands of Hispanic-Americans who serve there, and many of those who risk their lives to protect the rest of us do not yet possess the rights and privileges of full citizenship in the country they love so well.”
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Mccain just doesn’t get it. We are tired of his negativity all day. He sounds like such a phony when making these claims. Let’s start hearing about what you are going to do. The guy is totally blind. Let’s stay in Iraq forever, surge surge surge, but he says it’s working but yet there is no end in sight. Mccain will destroy the USA even further. The economy will get worse and our allies will think even less of us. Mccain cannot be trusted, he will be trigger happy and ruin the nation.
It’s pretty clear now, if it wasn’t before, that McCain really has nothing to offer. This is a sad desperate man who is doing everything he can to keep from going under.
I really had hoped Senator McCain had more integrity than he has displayed over the past week. Ceasely personal attacks on his rival have become his mantra. While he promised and we all believed he was above that type of political garbage, he, like President Bush (and yes I voted for the latter twice), has become a bitter dissapointment.
McCain charging Obama of failure???? Is he for real???? He is the one who finished 5th from the bottom of his class and was only allowed to graduate because of daddy! He is the one that has crashed 5 aircraft including the one that got him caputured. He is the one that has flipped-flopped on almost every policy making it hard for his own party to support him. This guy is an old joke.
Your Republican Friend.
Sean
Good for you McCain - call this obama guy a FRAUD - he is!
Obama is an arrogant, Radical FRAUD and not qualified to lead our country.
We can trust McCain to take good care of us.
Even if the surge was a good tactical decision it doesn’t somehow outweigh the idiocy of the entire Iraq invasion. And, I’m not making a claim either way about the surge. But, Obama’s point is that the war should never have been fought and the Iraqi and American lives taken in this endeavor. There is no way that McCain’s argument about whether or not Obama supported the surge can undercut this issue.
Mccain=loser;
Fox News=bias;
McCain’s speech is so chock full of holes and contradictions; he’s either a terrible liar like his predecessor or just losing his marbles. What a horrible day it will be for the US if he wins this election.
My Friend, McCain, you crony Bush are working on the same time table as Obama have said for over a year… And Obama have said that our part of the surge have worked, but Iraq’s have not pulled their share, neither the government nor the people..
But please tell us what you wanna do with Iraq… more soldiers ?? or you wanna pull out to too ??
and what about our economy ?? how you wanna pay for 100 more years in Iraq ??
It’s refreshing to see Fox News acknowledging that some of McCain’s attacks on Obama’s record are unfounded. On the other hand it’s discouraging to see other prevarications going unchallenged. In particular the statement : “Senator Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth. From the early days of this war, I feared the administration was pursuing a mistaken strategy, and I said so.”
does not stand up to even the most cursory scrutiny.
Hey McCain, you are a failure for not standing behind our veterans, you did not vote on the GI bill, and while our men and women are serving in Iraq, they come back to barracks they cant even live in.. and why did we even start the war ?? we would never have had to spend all this money and lives.. talk about pork interest…
Worst speech ever. Full of fodder, ‘what-ifs’, and propaganda.
this old ruin has mental problem.
Not we.
We can safely abandon the illusion that McCain wants to elevate the debate this election cycle.
Excellent, McCain/Romney 2008!!! Obhamas is a Mack Daddy, fooling the uniformed, but he stutters & stammers when he’s not reading a teleprompter, trying to hide his latte-sipping, liberal self.
McCain should know… he has spent the last 8 years kissing the feet of the greatest failure in the history of America: W.
I’ll take 200,000 people coming out in Berlin to respectfully support and listen to one of our candidates over 250,000 coming out to protest our president anyday.
What a joke this guy is. I can’t believe that this is the best that the Republicans can come up with.
You can tout the old man Mccain a thousand times a day, touch his wrinkled mask up and try to hide his declining intellect. But you’ll never make him electable. Because more than anything else, no one grows with age and despite your obsession, America does not really care for an angry senior as president. We need a young, smart and stable man as president to restore our faith in America. Obama will be the man of the hour.
McCain you have to be the biggest liar in the world.
From NBC’s Mark Murray
In an interview on CNN today — which the DNC is passing around — McCain said that withdrawal from Iraq in 16 months is “a pretty good timetable.”
That answer came when McCain was asked about Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki’s earlier claim to Der Spiegel that Obama’s 16-month plan “would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.”
Of course, McCain did stress that such a withdrawal would “have to be based on conditions on the ground.” But calling 16 months a “good timetable” is something McCain hasn’t said before — and probably never would have said a week ago.
The transcript:
BLITZER: What if Maliki persists? You’re president and he says he wants US troops out and he wants them out, let’s say in a year or two years or 16 months or whatever. What do you do? Do you listen to the prime minister?
MCCAIN: He won’t. He won’t. He won’t. Because it has to be condition-based.
BLITZER: How do you know?
MCCAIN: Because I know him. And I know him very well. And I know the other leaders. And I know — I’ve been there eight times, as you know. I know them very, very well.
BLITZER: So why do you think he said that 16 months is basically a pretty good timetable?
MCCAIN: He said it’s a pretty good timetable based on conditions on the ground. I think it’s a pretty good timetable, as we should — or horizons for withdrawal. But they have to be based on conditions on the ground.
From NBC’s Mark Murray
In an interview on CNN today — which the DNC is passing around — McCain said that withdrawal from Iraq in 16 months is “a pretty good timetable.”
That answer came when McCain was asked about Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki’s earlier claim to Der Spiegel that Obama’s 16-month plan “would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.”
Of course, McCain did stress that such a withdrawal would “have to be based on conditions on the ground.” But calling 16 months a “good timetable” is something McCain hasn’t said before — and probably never would have said a week ago.
The transcript:
BLITZER: What if Maliki persists? You’re president and he says he wants US troops out and he wants them out, let’s say in a year or two years or 16 months or whatever. What do you do? Do you listen to the prime minister?
MCCAIN: He won’t. He won’t. He won’t. Because it has to be condition-based.
BLITZER: How do you know?
MCCAIN: Because I know him. And I know him very well. And I know the other leaders. And I know — I’ve been there eight times, as you know. I know them very, very well.
BLITZER: So why do you think he said that 16 months is basically a pretty good timetable?
MCCAIN: He said it’s a pretty good timetable based on conditions on the ground. I think it’s a pretty good timetable, as we should — or horizons for withdrawal. But they have to be based on conditions on the ground.
McCain is a joke. He’s flip-flopped so much on every issue until
he’s flip-flopped himself right off the table.
I respect John McCain, not only for his military service to our country, but also because he, as well as Barrack Obama, agreed to run their campaigns in a respectful manner. This does not include painting the opposition as unpatriotic, or worse yet, somewhat traitorous for voting against funding the war one time out of ten instances. Senator McCain has lost some of my respect because he wishes to conduct this campaign in the same way that they have been conducted in the past; sling mud until no one can see what the truth is. Very disappointing.
Obama makes me sick! If he is Not proud of his country then he shouldn’t run for the President of our great nations. He should run for the leader in Germany. We are Americans and we are from completely different world. We don’t like Socialism that’s the reason why we came to America.
We don’t like a big government, high taxes and high everything!
Obama is a looser. We don’t like to lose!
Vote for Mccain 08′
Protect America from terrorists, wimpy Obama, socialist!!
WE WILL WIN!!
MCCAIN 08′
And now we know just how much of a failure. Since the “great” Senator Obama did not visit the wounded in Germany, we have been able to see through him and now know he “says” he has great respect for the military but in fact does not. He preferred to play basketball for the camera rather than leave the camera behind and visit the wounded. This is no Commander-in-Chief.
This guy is coming off as an old fart standing in the cheese isle. Face it folks. Obama speaking to 200,000? The “spin” coming out of the McCain camp on Obama’s trip is predictable, but almost funny. Does ANYONE think it is a BAD idea that this candidate will IMMEDIATELY restore our standing throughout the globe? McCain’s camp goaded Obama to take this trip, hoping he would fumble his way through it. WHOOPS! Be careful what you wish for boys. This trip was SPECTACULAR for Sen. Obama. WHEN he takes office, he will be able to govern with a mandate, cause this baby wont be close by November.
Failure back then, now and in the future. Presidents are made of strong fiber, taking stands and following thru on their convictions. Mr. Obama lacks firmly grounded principles. He oscillates according to whim, justifying it with labia.
Today he says he supports Israel, then he declares he’ll talk to Iran. Kind of reminds me of another failure who thought he was going to negotiate the release of our hostages. A year and a half later, a new President, guess what ?
Mr. Obama, us independents want someone of fiber who’s going to bring us change, note the fiber please.
McCain would continue Bush’s economic policies that do NOT work.
Look at our economy now. Our economy sucks!
Every time our economy tanks, a Repubican is President!
Herbert Hoover - Great Depression
Dwight Eisenhower - 1957 Recession
Richard Nixon - 1971 Recession
Gerald Ford - stagflation in 1973
Ronald Reagan - “Black Monday,” Oct. 19, 1987
George H. W. Bush - 1991 Recession
George W. Bush - right now!
We deserve a change.
Vote Barack Obama.
I don’t trust Barack Obama. I trust John McCain. He has the potential to change the United States Of America. But he definitely needs to bring back our Economy and our Health Care System and fix the High cost of Gas etc. because it is absolutely sad that Americans pay more then Europeans pay.
I think Sen John McCain is a good patriot who means well for his country.
I would have voted for him over George W. Bush in 2000. But, that was eaight years ago.
Of course Sen. Obama is right.
We should be asking the Iraqis to spend more on their own security, and present more funding to Afghanistan - for there is where the bulk of the most urgent threat operates.
Sen. McCain, like I said offered a good thing before; but we need a lot more, now.
I really hope you allow me to post I have no curse words of profanity, I have been trying to post for weeks now with no success……………
What ‘war’ has Sen. John McCain Won? Vietnam has not a war, it was a conflict in which the United States didn’t win. Where does he claim the experience to having the ability to win a ‘war?
Mc Cain is the only candidate telling the truth, King OBama and Queen Pelosi is only fattening their own pockets sitting on their duffs and doing nothing for the money we tax payers are paying I at Least respect McCain as he does try to do his job and I really get tired of the News Media trying to make this country a socialist communist country their views and the views of celebrities dosen’t count for anything.
Obama will sell out our country and our military in a N.Y. Second
B.O. rides his tricycle to the airport - and asks to fly the Jumbo jets…
transpotation experience?
Watching the recent movement in the polls brings back memories of disbelief over the actual results in 2000 and 2004. Based on the reality of all that is going on, the status of all things and the performances of the candidates, it would seem only reasonable to see something different than a closing of the gap between Obama and McCain and experiencing other than the expected then creates questions. In his book WHAT HAPPENED, Scott McClellan describes a ‘permanent campaign’ and a ‘politics as war’ mentality that negatively impacts Washington’s governing ability and that has been negatively progressing for decades culminating in the pits with the Bush Administration. McClellan’s long running admiration and respect for George W. Bush is evident and seems to limit his ability to fully identify the additional negative impact of Bush’s strong sociopathic personality and the full impact of Dick Cheney’s and Karl Rove’s personalities, all being arrogantly self-indulgent and stubborn without conscience. Scott lays a lot of blame at Rove’s feet and describes the strong, even private and near secretive, strong influence of Cheney but sticks more with the non-personal pathology of the developing philosophy used. The reality of the specific results, the particular slant of the observed problems and who always benefited from the Bush Administration’s actions strongly suggest that the effect of the personalities contributed far more heavily than identified. However Scott does clearly identify the problems incurred with constantly concentrating all effort on winning the campaign, on totally controlling public opinion and on succeeding over any opposition even while failing to be forthright, or open or to answer to the people; that mentality coupled with the focused backing of the Republican Party, the strong support of influential, powerful and wealthy supporters and including dedicated conservative cable and talk show media enabled them to do all they did. Now the question mentioned before would be, are we apt to continue down this road or this time is the public capable of seeing through the overt and covert efforts to appeal to their biases, prejudices and emotions, aimed to manipulate their opinion and then instead be conscientiously objective in their voting decision? Looking around us at the status of everything should influence us far more than their efforts to justify more of the same.
Not to be redundant. Barak Obama is not worthy of the title “Comander-in-Chief”.
Senator McCain is certainly showing his bitter side. While Obama looks very presidential and inspires hope not only in this country, but in the world, McCain weakly snipes from the sidelines. He’s like a child who notices his sibling doing an outstanding job and has to criticize so he can look better. If we want war for four more years, in Iraq and other parts of the world where our economic interests are at risk, then McCain is the man. If we want a better country and a better world, then we must vote for Obama. The statement, “audacity of hopelessness” certainly shows the side of a man who feels less than his opponent!!! Poor John.
I loathe Obama and I believe he will win.
He stands for the most perverted values imaginable.
McCain is a malignant utter failure on the part of cowardly republicans.
McCain is a hamster in the snake pit waiting nervously to be devoured.
…and yet, no one still mentions his weekly big errors, which many wish to call gaffes. Certainly don’t see much in the media about this. Which, I believe, is truly germane to this presidential election. (Keeping in mind…there is probably a strong possibilty McCain has an early stage of dementia.) Now this definitely is something EVERYBODY…REPUBLICANS and DEMOCRATS alike, should have grave concern. Unfortunate that those who do think something maybe wrong, say nothing…getting him in office is their goal. How tragic and sad.
This is an old fart that should of retire at the age of 60, I have no respect for this Mcshame. As a captive POW, he completely forgot about are Military Code of Conduct. As a Veteran of the Nam era I can’t forgive this man for his pass practice. While being a captive his nick name was song bird and from listening to him talk, he still sounds like a song bird. He’s very forgetful, not to bright and that not the kind of leader I want in the White House. He’s just another book end of the current administration! Tumbs down to McShame!
McCain and the critics SO JEALOUS of Obama. I feel sorry for you guys. Obama may loose the election but he has proven himself to be the better candidate.
I am a democrat who was leaning towards voting for McCain when he first announced his running for president. However, I cannot respect a man, or any person for that matter who continually blurts out inaccurate charges against another, and who does not listen carefully to the words his opponent is speaking. This can only lead one to believe McCain will not listen to our allies or enemies while in office. I would also like to add, I don’t believe anyone who acts like a 5 year old losing a fight on the playground should be entrusted with Safety and Security of our Nation. Senator McCain, you are simply being out classed. Go Obama!
This is to the McCain campaign spokes people. I have viewed and listened to some of the most outlandish opinions and inaccurate charges I have ever heard here on Fox News. Most of which are coming from people who claim to be supporting Senator McCain. It would be to your advantage to understand that Americans are very smart, and are not easily taken for a ride by some of the shortsighted charges you’ve blurted out about Senator Obama. I think the reason why the McCain campaign has no flare or substance is because you’ve waisted more time bashing your opponent than coming up with a detailed outline for policy regarding our economy. Consequently, you’ve only injured, and shot yourselves in the foot; directing your frustration from being out classed in the wrong direction. Yes, this is a political race! However, some of the charges and comments lead some Americans to wonder: What’s the underlying reason for such blatant disrespect. Go Obama!
Tsk, tsk, tsk FOXNEWS, why didn’t you print the note left in the holy land by Obama and what it said? “Lord — Protect my family and me. Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will,” Don’t just print the slander half of the story on his trip. Or does this show more than you want to print. Maybe show readers, that maybe he is a christian after all. That usually, how he is being beat down by all and sundry, is how christians that try to follow the faith get treated by this hedonistic world we live in today. McCain can only espouse any venom he and his cronies think of to discredit a truly worthy man that would set this country right in the world and on the homeland. This is what we want not another President that has a favorable rating of 10% or do we truly want to get on the list as a third world country. People better wake up and turn a blind eye to color and see what will be best in their lives. Even other countries don’t want more of the same.. So don’t bellyache when you put McSame on your ballot and you get more of the same. He has no clue and nor due his 40 advisors.
McCain states “feared the administration was pursuing a mistaken strategy,and I said” yet what the news article does not say is that now he has ‘flipflopped’ to say he agrees with EVERYTHING that Obama said from day one! If the voters believe this man they will get more of the same and get to know first hand how a third world country lives and is treated by the world. I am sure the Pentagon refused to allow Obama access to the troops. But they will not say this explicitly because they don’t want the bad press.
McCain is making the same mistake in the general election that Hillary made in the primaries. He is too focused on criticizing Obama. He needs to start telling Americans what his agenda for the country is, and stop spending so much time chasing Obama. By consistently whining about what Obama has said or done, it makes this senior senator look insignificant. It starting look like Obama has more political experience than McCain.
I definitely believe that Senator McCain should attack Senator Obama for not visiting the wounded military in Germany. Of all the places he could have skipped this was NOT the one. It just proves to me that this entire trip was just a farce and a chance to play president in front of the media. Since cameras and staff were not permitted in the facility, it just proves to me and hopefully many veterans that he is not interested in them or what they are doing.
I certainly hope this makes a lot of people take notice of where his priorities are. ANYTHNG to become president!!!
J. Stella
Pell City, AL
Obama did not want to take time to visit the injured troops if it didn’t “pay off” in terms of wide coverage for him. Remember he also “happened ” by a large crowd in Germany after two very popular rock bands but on s FREE show….
If Senator McCain was in Germany instead of Obama and he chose to not visit wounded troops you can bet that Obama would make a big thing out of that. If Obama can’t stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen!
Jan
Spencer, NY
In regards to Senator McCain criticizing Senator Obama (and vice a versa). Senator Obama was first criticized for wanting to see our wounded soldiers and now he’s being criticized for not seeing the wounded. I am really getting tired of hearing the candidates talk of nothing but what they “think” are weaknesses of each other. Senator McCain is a good man and senator in our state but all I hear lately is bashing (healthcare called Hillary care) and personal attacks on Senator Obama. How about we hear about each candidates proposed policies and solution for the problems in our country. Lets quit spending time and money on making each other look bad and actually give the public credit for being able to pick a president based on what they stand for not all of this mud slinging back, forth and sideways. Thank you, Judi Thornton
McCain is pathetic. He is jealous because he can’t get the press coverage that Obama is getting. McCain is old news. Obama well knows what needs to be done concerning Iraq. McCain is just like Bush - a failure!
Go Obama!
Obama meeting with wounded troupe privately would have been good. Meeting with the press around would have been improper campaigning. I am retired Military and never appreciated being used as a photo op or a campaign kudos.
fox this morning said obamas trip overseas was stage managed!!!!! mc cain would give his eyeteeth to have a campain as well managed , to be as popular as obama, all mc cain can do is criticise like a jealous baby and twist anything said or done, its scary to think he could be president ,but then it wouldnt be him in charge,it would be the bush gang all over again, what a prospect. this wont be posted of course because its not for mc cain.
John McCain has not been honest with the American people and the press has not been even handed in their scrutiny of the Presidential canidates.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-barbeque-media-wants_b_114843.html
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=4FE8823D79B012540EA163C17A17164E?diaryId=1671
http://www.womenforjohnmccain.com/
It’s obvious that McSame is the failure. He can’t do any better than criticize Obama??? Give America a break, McSame, you are just tooooo old to make a difference!
We love you Obama!
John McCain is sounding more and more like a bitter old man. He has done nothing but whine for the past two weeks. He’s royally “POd” because Obama went to Iraq and Europe and presented himself as the statesman that this country needs. Obama has said time and time again that the troops have done a great job in Iraq. How can McCain described leaving as losing? I’ve wondered about that ever since he started saying it (over and over and over again). He himself has said the surge succeeded. The Iraqi government and people want us to leave. It’s their country, give it back to them. Sixteen months is enough time to safely remove our troops and put them where they are needed - Afghanistan. That is where they should have been to begin with - Al Queda attacked us through them, not Iraq. Had we gone there instead of Iraq, maybe Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda would no longer be a problem. As for Obama voting not to fund the troops, that is an outright lie. He voted not to support the surge - that’s a different kettle of fish as McCain knows. Obama has supported the troops with his votes time and time again. McCain cannot claim the same. While McCain votes to support war and against benefits for the veterans; Obama votes to support the men and women before, during and after the conflict.
Actually, the failure here is this miserable Hillary-esque campaign the McCain clan is running…
What a pandering old pud. How do you say that en espanol?
McCain sounds desperate, doesn’t he? I don’t think McCain can be trusted as Commander-in-Chief. He just doesn’t have the temperament and intellect for guiding America’s foreign policy and domestic agenda, specifically for the near term, and the longer term in general.
I listened to McCain’s utterings over the past week and he just does not sound presidential nor does he look the part. In addition, he is driven by ideological pricinciples that are out of touch and are no longer appealing to a growing population of main street America.
McCain accuses Obama of showing poor judgement, yet he is guilty of voting for the war in Iraq, one of the biggest blunders in US’s policies in recent times. In fact, McCain suport of the Iraq war is not a blunder. It was a terribly poor judgement that was very, very wrong.
The Iraq war was wrong because it detracts form the pertinent war on terror which should have been waging in Afghanistan to dismantle Al-qaeda and to find and punish Bin Laden. Taking our eyes off the real prize allowed Bin Laden to continue his reign as a terrorist leader. Furthermore, the state of the economy now can be blamed on the war in Iraq. The diversion of billions of dollars to fight the war in Iraq has definitely hurted the US economy.
So, if Mcain wants to talk about judgement, let him answer to the poor judgement in supporting the war in Iraq, not going after Bin Laden in Afghanistan and allowing the US economy to be in such a poor state.
Despite all the HYPE from NObama and the DIMS…
McCAIN’s excellent judgement regarding The SURGE in 2006/7 is a resounding SUCCESS!!!
By all accounts, NObama’s judgement to “CUT and RUN” by March 2008 would have been a DISASTER !!
NObama - NO Judgement to LEAD
******* President McCAIN in ‘08 !!!
As far as failure goes McCain you supported one of the biggest blunders in history, “The War in Iraq.” Now who is a failure when most Americans oppose things that you vote for like the Iraq War and did not vote for like The MLK holiday and the new GI Bill. You have failed to support some of the most important issues in the USA. If you are the so call best man for the job why don’t you tell us more of what you are going to do instead of telling us what Obama has done. Obama this Obama that. Are you jealous of Obama or are you in love with him. Inquring mines would like to know.
Comment by CJB in CA
July 28th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Despite all the HYPE from NObama and the DIMS…
McCAIN’s excellent judgement regarding The SURGE in 2006/7 is a resounding SUCCESS!!!
By all accounts, NObama’s judgement to “CUT and RUN” by March 2008 would have been a DISASTER !!
NObama - NO Judgement to LEAD
******* President McCAIN in ‘08 !!!
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It could be the insurgents have stopped fighting because they sense US Troops are going to leave and they can continue fighting after the left. It is premature to say the Surge has uncategorically succeeded. Iraq will be a disaster whether we leave or stay. Truth be known, we should have never invaded Iraq. We all know this.. Continuing to send our troops to be sacrificed for this failed policy will have the same outcome as Vietnam.
It is Pretty sad that all mccain does is bash obama…he doesn’t realize that nobody knows wha he stands for becasue he never talks about what he wants to do or believe in because he’s too busy talkin about what obama believes in…basically campaigning for obama..thankz a lot…but its alright because sean hannity does all the campaigning for mccain anyway and all the obama bashing mccain can’t do…kind of like is dirty surrogate..
To those who suggest that McCain blundered in supporting the Iraq war I must add that there were many a dem who did so too…yes dems supported the war…they allowed Bush to go after Sadam…and rightly so….BUT the dems were very quick after authorizing the war to begin an effort to undermine Bush and all the efforts to do the right humane thing…the “human rights” of Iraq citizens were front and center for all to see even before the invasion. Seems many dems forget about this and only center their argument on WMDs…but Sadam convinced all even his generals he had them and would use them…that this deception shot him in the foot should not be the fault of Bush. True Bush made some mistakes but the end result is obvious to all and present is extremely positive…a result the dems continue to demean and shut their eyes to it. When in history has such a positives result been obtain for 20+ million in a relatively short time?? (and this only factors on Iraq not even Afghanistan) It is amazing that the values that the free world trumpets so much…human rights…was tested in Iraq and Afghanistan and the US and allies were fruitful….this laudable committment to humanity will take challenges and the US and others answered the calling….but where does this put the dems who for the past many years wanted to “cut and run” away from this noble venture???? It is easy to “talk human rights” but much more difficult to “walk the walk” which Bush has done even though some would impeach him for it…amazing!!!! What price do you put on freedom and salvation of millions????
John McCain is the man. He is the true American of the two and if some of you (WG) think he has nothing to offer, than you are sadly mistaken; and, if you think NObama has anything to offer, then again you are sadly mistaken. Has anyone thought to ask Nobama just what changes he plans to make. He has offered change without definition and everyone is falling for his song and dance. He is better than Fred Astaire. Let’s get it together America. Let’s see NObama for what he really is and listen to what he is NOT saying. That is where the truth lies.
Let’s vote McCain in November for America’s sake; for our Children’s sake. If we elect NObama, there will be no future left for our children in America. This election is that important.
Joe
As some other poster said, McCain’s claim that “I have won wars” is pretty shaky. Yes, he has been around for many years and he was a POW in Vietnam, but I do not think that he has “won wars”.
Having said that, I feel that it is more important to be able to “prevent” wars than to be able to win wars. And, by that yardstick, McCain appears to be completely the wrong candidate.
Obama is getting squishier on Iraq all the time.
Of course there will be a draw down on the troops no matter who is president as things improve. He now says there will be a force left there. Doesn’t say if its 50 or 100 thousand tho.
Iran is the problem and a speech is not going to stop them.
Obama talks about commanders saying we can leave. Well, they aren’t the commanders that are on the ground. We’ll do it when the time is right.
Also I don’t want to be paying 60% of our wages to the tax man which would happen one way or the other under Obamas social plans.
I sure am glad I’m not a young person just starting out.
McCain 08
Kevin - that’s what i’m talking about….WHAT IS McSAME’S MESSAGE?? Can anyone tell me? All I hear is Obama bashing…McSame is a frustrated bitter old fart. What is your freakin’ platform? What do you stand for?
Please help me understand why he’s running for president?
Obama does not seem to get it….he continues down the pathway of extremely down playing the surge and the decision by McCain and others that it was the right thing to do. Now I do not disagree with Obama that other things were necessary with the iraq government to make the progress during the surge BUT WITHOUT THE SURGE THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE TIME, PROVEN SDUPPORT AND VITAL IMPRESSION THAT THE USA WAS GOING TO CUT AND RUN…..This is where Obama continues to grasp at straws trying in every imaginable way to demean the decision to do the surge at all……and the results of the surge…..”typical politician” who can not ever retract from his previous views even when it stares him in the face !!!!! You know this is obvious to all…so many on the left who first hand saw the results…but Obama can not….and how does that suggest he would function as CinC…not well. Even Bush realizes things could have been handled differently in Iraq BUT NOT OBAMA. Without the USA MILITARY EFFORT DEFINED BY THE SURGE OBAMA WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SITTING WITH THE IRAQ LEADER…it is that plain and simple…
My son is in Iraq, near Bagdad. Maybe this is all a game to some of you, but not to me. The Junior Senator from Illinois avoided traveling there for several years, while Senator McCain has gone there repeatedly. The Junior Senator from Illinois cannot seem to admit that the surge has significantly reduced the fighting. Senator McCain is quick to point out both the mistakes and the successes and fought to improve our strategy. Senator Obama can only seem to see failure.
I would rather trust the 22 year naval officer and long time Senator from Arizona than someone who just discovered international politics and is still shifting and forming his world view.
Mccain needs to tone it down. He is not energizing conservatives, it will only anger more blacks to get out and vote. I am black and it is amazing how people who could not tell you who was president before Regan are all into politics.
Blacks will be big in this election and he will carry maybe 98% of us. 100% of the blacks i know are voting for him and 25% of them are repulican friends and associates. It is not about black vs white its seen as good vs evil. McCain is seen as evil by blacks just like Bush. Very true too.
Then you need to go look up the begining of Obama’s political career. Obama is strickly for Obama, he will destroy any one getting in his way including real great black leaders who want what is best for their people. This is a man who lost two sets for the black community in order to get where he is today and he destroyed the career of Alice Palmer a Black activist who helped start his career. This is a man who will say and do what ever it takes to get elected to what ever he goes after. Go read it.
http://www.mgwashington.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/8/
Obama again tries to say that this is just a distraction. We this tells us what moral priorities Obama has. Obamas priority is himself. Does Obama have moral character? No. So is this important to discuss? Yes.
I want to see an honest man or woman as our president and Obama is not it.
OBAMA supporters, don’t forget that most of the country accepted to go to war. Well over 70%. We went to war in Iraq for a reason. The facts that were shown were satelite images of mobile chemical/biological facilities, etc. A good bit of the intelligence came from the international community. Saddam was denying weapons inspectors. This was apart of the peace agreement signed to end Dessert Storm.
Obama is not qualified to lead this country. A candidate should have to serve in the military, in order to even be able to run for president. Of course that is not the case. How can he even lead our military, when he has no idea of how the military is run, etc. The guy is a joke, and whoever votes for him is a joke.
I don’t agree with all of McCain’s issues, but atleast he is qualified to lead our country & military.
Example: A Qualified candidate with serveral years of experience, interviews for a job. A non-qualified candidate with little or no experience interviews for the same job.
Who do you think that company would hire? Yes the more experienced candidate. The in-experienced candidate wouldn’t even get a second interview.
Think about it America!
CRAIG: Yes blacks are voting for him because he is black. Answer this: Would you have voted for him over Hillary. if Mr. Obama was pure white? Yeah I thought so. Crawl back into your hole, you racist piece of garbage.
DENNIS ROITT: Exactly correct! Thank you. I couldn’t of said it better. VOTE MCCAIN 08