Well you go McCain, and I thought you were too liberal, I see you have common sense.

I’m trashing your hate speech of the U.S. constitution at

http://mobile.slashdot.org/mobile/08/06/13/1849217.shtml

Mr McCain you state “Our first obligation is the safety and security of our nation and the men and women who defend it.”
The oath of office for the President of the United States is:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, that is your first obligation otherwise you are unfit to be president.

McCain stated in the same talk:

“We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called, quote, Habeas Corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material.”

So now John McCain doesn’t believe in the basic legal principle of Habeas Corpus? And this it the guy Republicans want for president?

Wake up and smell the coffee, Republicans!

What does McCain think will happen when you want shut down a prison where prisoners are being held for killing our boys on the battle field. Where should we move these prisoners to John? US Prisons? Should we read them their miranda rights and give them their one phone call. I am glad he decided to step up his rhetoric once he had a day to see what the country was saying about it. Shows great leadership and conviction. This is supposed to be the tough guy on terrorist? Come on John

McCain said in the same talk:

“We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called, quote, Habeas Corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material.”

John McCain doesn’t believe in the basic legal principle of Habeas Corpus? And this is the guy the Republicans want for president of the united states? Wake up and smell the coffee, folks!

Go John

If they are “enemy combatants” as you say, then why is the Geneva Convention not being applied.

That’s why the Supreme Court had to intervene. ALL human beings have rights. As the greatest superpower with high moral ethics, the application of those ethics must be paramount. So far they are lacking. It is no wonder the rest of the world lacks respect for the United States.

Finally someone (the Supreme Court no less) is seeing reason.

There IS hope.

Charles, you just said it all. Oh, excuse me, it’s the Constitution that says it all, isn’t it?

Also, Mr. McCain seems not to understand the concept of habeus corpus, which literally means something like “present the body.” It is used to challenge indefinite detention, or the legality of ones detention, and not ones reading material or diet. But, alas, these are details that Mr. McCain needn’t trifle with. It is surely easier to equate habeus corpus to frivolous lawsuits, thereby accomplishing a two-birds, one stone attack on the terrorist coddlers and trial lawyers. Well done John, truth be damned!

“one of the worst decisions of all time.” Interesting. When I think of the worst decisions of all time i tend to go with Dred Scott, Plessy v. Ferguson, and Korematsu. All three decisions strip an individual of their rights due to their membership in a certain class of society. For some reason this decision strikes me as the opposite, dictating that certain fundamental rights are due to all. Seems like I’ve heard that somewhere else as well….

The oath of office for the President of the UNITED STATES is:
I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the UNITED STATES, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

You are talking about the constitution of the country of which I am a citizen. Why did the rights of this country become the rights of foreign POWs. You guys do remember what a POW is, don’t you? Prisoners of WAR. That usually means they aren’t friendlies.

Wanna cozy one of the Gitmo guys in to your home guest room? He can take his complaints directly to the management, you.

Well said Mccain, the ruling was absurd. I feel for those whose have lost love ones to these animals. They don’t wear a combat unform have no regard for human life are well treated when captured and now these liberal judges give them constitutional rights. Wonder what the dems and liberals will say and do when a terroist attack does happen on thier watch, bush won’t be around for them to blame. Pelosi Ried and Obama will all be cowering under the same desk.

This is so sad to see people bashing a conservitive on Fox, I guess the comments haven’t been “balanced” yet.

There are SO MANY people being detained illegally in our jails - most on falsified ‘child support non payment’ allegations that aren’t even investigated or true. The Doors to the Courthouses have been blocked for ‘ordinary citizens’ for a LONG time…
If it weren’t for Habeas Corpus - the courts and their lawyers could do anything they wanted without being held accountable - hell, it’s already that way what am I talking about?

Gitmo prisioners should face a panel of Judges representing all the Nations terrorized by their particular extremist hate group. Other countries of the World might not be so concerned about their civil rights.

Seriously! What are our brave men and women fighting for if it’s not to uphold the Constitution! John McCain is showing very clearly why he should not be our president.

BO is a fraud

McCain should study Article III Section 2 of the Constitution before making any more confused and foolish statements. His speech reflects either his total ignorance of the basis on which the United States was founded or his complete lack of respect for it.

The Court got it wrong yesterday. The Constitution of the United States of America is to protect the citizens of the United States. It does not make sense to allow detainees, who are not U.S. Citizen, and who do not believe in a democratic society to use the Constitution to their advantage when they need it, while they put down our democratic society. Justice Scalia is one of the most principled Justices on the Court, and he gets it right most of the time.

Since Hillary is no longer in it, I switched to John McCain. Know what, for the very first time I am really proud of my country.

Mr. McCain seems to have lost his mind and his memory. Wasn’t he subjectded to torture and mandatory detention, with no review from the Vietnamese military. And wouldn’t he had benefited himself from a ruling of this type if he was still hypothetically being held prisoner.

Moreover, I agree with the post below that he is unfit to be president as he favors trashing the constitution - which he would swear to uphold if he became president.

The thing is I do not believe that a man or woman who has no respect for our country has the right to claim the basic rights they do not respect. And I do not think people who want to kill and destroy it have any rights. I for one am all for trials and exicutions of every terrorist in prison if they are found guilty. As for their rights, give them the same ones they give others, oh yeah that is none if you do not believe as they do, so boohoo for them.

What a difference 8 years make.

The 2000 version of John McCain would have lauded this decision, which clearly states that the president - any president - is not above the law.

The 2008 model, however, feels he must throw red meat to that frothing wing of the Republican party that divides the nation into “conservatives” and “traitors.”

Everything that made McCain so appealing years ago, the thoughtfulness and independence, has been sacrificed at the altar of electoral ambition. We were never able to lump McCain in with the reactionary crowd - the “agents of intolerance” - of Limbaugh, Rove, Cheney, Coulter, et al. Now we can. How depressing.

Courage and conviction? No way. Pandering of the most blatant sort? Yep.

Has the small-minded wing of the GOP moved so far to the right that “the rule of law” is now considered merely a part of a liberal conspiracy?

Thank you, Justice Kennedy, appointed by that well-known, flaming liberal, left-wing, America-hating traitor - RONALD REAGAN.

So the Constitution’s separation of powers, first developed by the Greeks, seems to be functioning perfectly; how ironic.

McTame doesn’t even support the Constitution he risked his life defending; it would be hilarious if it were not so sad.

McCain on Iraq-
1) “I believe that success will be fairly easy –” John McCain., September 24, 2002.

2)”I believe that we can win an overwhelming victory in a very short period of time –” John McCain, September 29, 2002.

3): “There’s no doubt in my mind that once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators – ” John McCain, March 24, 2003.

4) McCain’s town hall, five months ago, referenced the President’s forecast that we might stay in Iraq for 50 years-
“Make it a hundred! We’ve been in Japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That’s fine by me … – ” John McCain, January 3, 2008.

The problem with that McCain is we are occupying countries that want us there and the countries are NOT in a civil war!

This recent Supreme Court decision does not protect and defend the citizens of the United States. The interest of the terrorists are put above the interests and safety of America. We will all pay for this. These terrorists could hire ACLU lawyers at the taxpayers expense, and then go to the most liberal judges who will eventually let them get back to where they came from and terrorize. It will jeopardize and put our fighting men and women at risks.

Those liberals celebrating on this decision do not care about the security of our country.

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John McCain has ben saying he wanted to close GITMO and he is right. Our international standing is severely degraded as a result. Moving them to Levenworth, etc is a more “institutional” method for legitimizing the confinement. For those that do not feel we need international image, I would remond you that everything we are trying to do in Iran, Syria, South Korea, etc DEPENDS strongly on this image…..JMAC got it right.

nit wits

McCain is correct and the ignorant liberals are wrong about these terrorists. They are not American citizens, they are war criminals, they are not afforded rights as U.S. citizens. The subversive court has no judicial jurisdiction in such cases. The military tribunal should have tried them and those who were guilty should have been executed saving the taxpayers millions!

God help us!!

Now even the Supreme Court doesn’t understand the nature of war prisoners. If they can’t figure out what a war is, just like the liberals, then we most certainly will lose the war, and we most certainly will be attacked again, this time much worse than the World Trade Center.

Thank you, immeasurably stupid liberals…

I am confused about Sen McCain’s comments on the recent Supreme Court decision on prisoners at Gitmo. He wanted to close Gitmo…and that’s public record. Now he thinks the Supreme Court Decision was a terrible mistake. How do you reconcile these two views? As a long time viewer of Fox I hope that Fox will continue its reputation for fair and balanced reporting. I am looking for balance in the John MCain of 2000 an the John McCain who desperatley needs to find his base in 2008.

Would Fox be interested in discussing how establishing Guatenamo has actually contributed to the terroist threat. If you throw people in jail without just cause and tell them for years on end that they are terroists they may start believing it and maybe not thinking well of US because of how they have been treated.

Who would even want those who are innocent after years of confinement? A sad legacy for our country if you are open to looking at it from an unbiased viewpoint.

Fully agree!! Just anothef example of insipid liberalism giving away the US. Senator McCain showing his greatness!!!

McCain considers this Supreme Court ruling on Gitmo the “worst decision in history,” except for the fact that it isn’t what the Bush administration wanted. He also in 2003 said ,
“They may not have any rights under the Geneva Conventions as far as I’m concerned, but they have rights under various human rights declarations. And one of them is the right not to be detained indefinitely.” So where does he stand behind issues. Mc Bush flip flopper.

Thomst, your respone makes no sense. Charles, this isn’t even a decision that belongs in the Supreme Court. It belongs under the UCMJ. This is just another example of the Government poking there noses in a place where it doesn’t belong. Anyone who does not side with Mac on this, allow me to ask you this. If someone held you at gun point and threatened your very existence. Then another fellow American such as a concerned citizen or a police officer helped you escape from this deadly situation and apprehended this criminal, how would you feel if the criminal sued the Governement , the concerned citizen or the police officer for 1 million dollars and the Supreme Court granted it, how would you feel?
Last Friday at a local vacation bible school my six year old son was kicked in the groin and called stupid by two of his peers because he likes Thomas the Tank Engine. My wife and I told him to just walk away if this happens again but I really wanted to tell him to drill the other kid in the face.
My fear is that worse things would happen to him if he retaliates. We’ve reached a point of no return in our society where we can no longer defend ourselves. Thanks for building a world where my son has to take shots in the groin because of his favorite TV show. Stick that in your Habeaus Corpus. It is days like these that make me think our situation might be un-fixable. I spent six years of my life fighting for this? If you screw up at work it is documented, filed and noted for future use against future behavior. If you screw up in the world you are rewarded money? Come on people.

Bottom line, those prisoners in GITMO are enemy combatants, are not entitled to the rights provided by our constitution. What is so hard to understand about that?

Enemy combatants are not citizens and are not given the right to trial. What kind of perverted interpretation of the constitution is this? It’s not interpretation, just another case of legislation from the bench.

The point being Habeas Corpus only applies to US Citizens. “wake up and smell the coffee folks”

The Supreme Court followed the intent of our forefathers perfectly in this decision. After all we do believe that “all men are created equal, that they are ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” right?
According to the words in the Declaration of Independence above these rights are not obtained by reason of U.S citizenship, rather they are obtained by reason of being human. Therefore, government cannot deprive ANY person of these “natural rights” unless he or she is found guilty by a jury of his or her peers.
Could you guarantee that in declaring the hundreds of people that our government has to be “enemy combatants” that they have not now, nor ever will make a mistake? (Yeah right). If that cannot be guaranteed then there HAS to be a way for the imprisoned to challenge their classification in court and that is exactly what the Supreme Court said.
There was no other decision the Supreme Court could have made without denying that our rights are natural and not derived from our government (a concept that ranks very high among conservatives and constitutionalists.)

John McCain is right about the Gitmo decision extending our rights to foreign combatants captured in war. There is nothing NOTHING in the Constitution that extends any rights to people who are not American citizens. This is the worse decision in the history of America. This out of control court has made a LAW they just pulled out of a hat. We have the right, when a branch of government oversteps it’s authority, to shut it down. It has been done before and should be done this time. The Supreme Court has no mechanism to enforce anything by itself. Congress should come to it’s senses and refuse to obey it.

For alll the libral jackasses who think they know the principal of “Habeas Corpus” it was a right of Ameican citizens not a right of the “New World Order”. How about the policy of “take no prisoners”? That would solve the dellima the Supreme Court has created. We wouldn’t have to deal with any prisoners of war or be concerned with their so called newly formed rights…they would all be dead on the battle field. What do you want real mercy or false justice?

McSame will say anything to become president.

He keeps Lieberman close to him, so that old Joe can give him the on the spot corrections when he goof again. As president will he always have someone close by to keep him straight.

Yeah we should put them in our mainland prisons. Put them in general population. They would be dead before they had a chance to make their first phone call.

About time he shows some real conservative backbone….

McCain is right to insist only citizens have citizen rights!

I fully agree with Senator McCain. What in the heck the Supreme Court was thinking.
Why does our Constitution apply to Terrorist. They should be tried by a military court. If i were President Bush i would ignore the courts decision, since he only has a short time in office left and get trials moving asap,before they have a chance to be heard in Federal Court.

Dagmar

The Dems are going down!!!

The Supreme Court really had no choice but to reach this decision because of foot dragging by the Bush Adminstration. It is sad to see some of these prisoners gain access to the federal court system instead keeping their cases in military courts where they belong. The accords defined by the Geneva Convention were not being met, so the Supreme Court was forced to allow them access to federal courts, OR ORDER THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF ALL.

But, as pointed in articles out elsewhere, the Administration has been holding prisoners without charges, hearings, attorneys or trials. The argument that these are “enemy combatants” is empty because it is a term invented to justify the treatment. I blame this unfortunate decision on blunders by the Bush Administration to process these prisoners in a timely fashion.

vote for Obama and we will have all liberal judges on the Supreme court and then this
Country will really go down fast.

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Jerry, just so that you are aware; if it were not for combatants shooting at our soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan, we’d have no wars. Wake up and smell the coffee baby, these folks want what you got. Funny how these Islamic extremists hate us based on their “religion” yet visit prostitutes, consume liquor and read porn which is against theirs. I bet you were watching Montreal Candians games during the draft.

The constitution was meant for citizens of these United States. What is the reasoning, unless you want to see and enjoy the demise of the greatest nation on earth, to extend the rights that millions of Americans through history defended to those hell bent on our destruction?