To all Hillary’s supporters please sign the petition pledge to vote against Obama. We need 10,000 signatures. Go to the headline that says Hillary’s Way Forward.

I signed the petition - thanks.
Obama will not win this election - you need more than the all black vote to win - might need working class people, Catholics, Jews - might even need FL & MI - two states that obama blocked a re-vote.
Hillary supporters will never vote for obama - not because of race - or - sex - we tend to vote for the BEST QUALIFIED - obama is not.
Hillary or McCain for President

Bush got about 6% of African American votes and Kerry Got the rest—so what does this mean?

Cook County Illinois/Lake County Indiana…same old story. When is someone going to step up and do something about it?

Comment by Old Democrat
May 7th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

Cook County Illinois/Lake County Indiana…same old story. When is someone going to step up and do something about it?
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Bush got about 6% of African American votes and Kerry Got the rest—so what does this mean?

Comment by Bella in Florida
May 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
To all Hillary’s supporters please sign the petition pledge to vote against Obama. We need 10,000 signatures. Go to the headline that says Hillary’s Way Forward.
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET 10,000 VOTES?

News: 5/7/08
“It’s clear Obama crushed Clinton in early votes cast in both states. A good portion of these votes where cast before the controversy over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright took hold a second time in the campaign and before Clinton engaged Obama in a debate over her proposal for a federal gasoline tax holiday.”

This news proved and shows Obama only won because of those early votes cast. Especially in NC states before his Pastor resurfaced. The polls are true but because of early votes casts by mostly Black who are solid behind Obama this the Wright controversy seems no effect but it will in these next primaries.

NC has 30% Black electorate who voted 92% for Obama simply because he’s black. But in almost all states white, Brown, Asian electorates favors Hillary Clinton.

How in the world will Obama win in the General elections with Black Votes only without other etnic groups?

Whites will be voting for John McCain in this General Election and this is a fact if Hillary Clinton is not the nominee for Democrats.

DNC Leaders should know this and GOP really wants Obama to win the nomination for democrats.

You had only to be watching CNN last night after midnight to see what was going on in Lake County. It was so obvious that someone (and I think it was the Mayor of Gary, IND) was trying to perform irregularities. I cannot believe anyone who is supposedly smart enough to be mayor could be as dumb as that guy. I work the elections here in my county and when someone hands in their votes at 7:30pm, it smacks of some hanky panky when they are not reported until 1AM. The mayor of Hammond was on the phone with CNN and he stated he and he named 6 or seven other cities that had turned in their returns at 7:30 and he knew they had all gone to Clinton and he even know by an approximate amount of how much. However, those votes were the last ones to be reported. The mayor in Gary kept saying “we’re counting the 10,000 early voters” and also one of the first things he said was that no one was going to be disenfranchised (now wonder why he would say that). I truly believe that there was some one trying to make sure Obama got more votes than Senator Clinton and I truly believe that would have happened if CNN hadn’t kept on at him and the other mayor hadn’t toward the end said that he felt there were inproprities going on. When he said that both the mayors were on the line and there had only been 56% reported (none were the ones from the Hammond area) and almost immediately it was up to 98%. Could that be why Obama is doing so well??????? makes you wonder…

Comment by EJ
May 7th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

You had only to be watching CNN last night after midnight to see what was going on in Lake County. It was so obvious that someone (and I think it was the Mayor of Gary, IND) was trying to perform irregularities. I cannot believe anyone who is supposedly smart enough to be mayor could be as dumb as that guy. I work the elections here in my county and when someone hands in their votes at 7:30pm, it smacks of some hanky panky when they are not reported until 1AM. The mayor of Hammond was on the phone with CNN and he stated he and he named 6 or seven other cities that had turned in their returns at 7:30 and he knew they had all gone to Clinton and he even know by an approximate amount of how much. However, those votes were the last ones to be reported. The mayor in Gary kept saying “we’re counting the 10,000 early voters” and also one of the first things he said was that no one was going to be disenfranchised (now wonder why he would say that). I truly believe that there was some one trying to make sure Obama got more votes than Senator Clinton and I truly believe that would have happened if CNN hadn’t kept on at him and the other mayor hadn’t toward the end said that he felt there were inproprities going on. When he said that both the mayors were on the line and there had only been 56% reported (none were the ones from the Hammond area) and almost immediately it was up to 98%. Could that be why Obama is doing so well??????? makes you wonder…
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Wow….shocking news..Democrat voter fraud…LOL..well I guess it IS news when it’s done to another Democrat…but we on the right are used to the DEM fraud practices.

All this talk about integrity…ROFL..

Comment by Bella in Florida
May 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
To all Hillary’s supporters please sign the petition pledge to vote against Obama. We need 10,000 signatures. Go to the headline that says Hillary’s Way Forward.
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Bella,

This is a silly idea. Besides Hillary won’t support it, here’s why-

Once Obama gets the democratic nomination Hillary will have NO choice but to support him (this includes campaigning for him). Because if she doesn’t or if she tries to undermine his campaign causing him to lose, she won’t get re-elected in New York. She has a large African American constituency who made it possible for her to get elected by their overwhelming support.

If she de-rails Obama’s campaign, I guarantee that she will not get re-elected to another senate term. Then she will really be out of the game.

Jeff, this type of stuff happens all the time with both parties, and with both candidates. The Clinton camp was accused of a similiar irregularity with the Texas primary.

So don’t make more of this than what it is. The problem is that the media SELECTIVELY reports targeted cases of voter irregularities to appeal to and reinforce notions of a particular segment of viewers.

Hmmm I wonder who they could be?

JeffX - don’t be so quick to blame the dems. I was watching the election results during the last election and was waiting for Ohio to come in. Kerry was thousand ahead of Bush. It looked like Kerry would win, then all at once, in a matter of seconds, many, many thousands of votes were posted for Bush. Sounds like the same thing was happening there too, huh, of course we know Bush is very good at stealing elections. There were thousands of votes in Fl that time that did not count. so it looks like the pot calling the kettle black,

To all Clinton supporters. To show our support we also need to go to her website and donate. I have already done so. I was thinking about having a presence at the Dem National Convention in Aug. I know the blacks were planning on protesting if Obama doesn’t get the nom. I am going to keep an eye out for any movement for Hillary in this direction. A lot of the Dems think that Clinton supporters are just saying they won’t vote for Obama in Nov. But I can assure you I won’t. I am afraid for my country if he does win. He is all smoke and mirrors and back room deals.
The vote in IN was rigged. They got it as close as they could and then when the mayor of IN started making noise they had to put out their numbers. Lake Cty IN wasn’t the only county that “suddenly” had 100% of their vote counted. Lake Cty was just the only one that was so late because they were trying to make up the difference Obama needed. Really does make you wonder where else it was like that. I think everyone knows the people Obama associates with are not above this kind of dirty politics.
DONATE FOR HILLARY TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO HER AND THE DNC!

Comment by EJ
May 8th, 2008 at 12:46 am

JeffX - don’t be so quick to blame the dems. I was watching the election results during the last election and was waiting for Ohio to come in. Kerry was thousand ahead of Bush. It looked like Kerry would win, then all at once, in a matter of seconds, many, many thousands of votes were posted for Bush. Sounds like the same thing was happening there too, huh, of course we know Bush is very good at stealing elections. There were thousands of votes in Fl that time that did not count. so it looks like the pot calling the kettle black,
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ROFL…Come on EJ..even the DEM leaders didn’t buy that lie when the figures were all counted.

We all know the REAL voter crooks are the Democrats, from keeping laws being passed to force voter ID cards today, all the way back before the JFK/Nixon 1960 scandal in Chicago.

Some of these DEM operatives aren’t very smart in cheating, like a few elections ago when a Clinton big time contributor and friend decided to bribe votes from the homeless at the Milwaukee Rescue Mission with packs of cigarettes. The idiot didn’t see that across the street was the ABC affiliate WISN and they caught it all on TV from their window. Geez..you’d think the idiot DEM could would of noticed all the satellite dishes and satellite trucks next to the building and the 12′ high call letters sign.

There is some suspicious activity going on specially if the mayor is a supporter of Obama.

Hillary is better for the general election.

There are more bigots in the democratic party than there are in the republican parties — look in history. It was the republicans who brought civil rights to light.

just look at the Clinton supporters for example here

Comment by jt
May 8th, 2008 at 1:51 am

There is some suspicious activity going on specially if the mayor is a supporter of Obama.

Hillary is better for the general election.
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someone who cant win the primaries is not better for the general election— it just doesnt make sense.

Option 6: Seat FL & MI based on the elections that have taken place.
(Obama does not get MI 55 uncommitted).

I lived in Indiana for 25 years.Lake county is Gary Indiana country.All Black.They have been fixing elections up there for years.They almost pulled it off last nigt.I think cable news CNN which dogged them for hours on their vote which they held for over 5 hours after the polls closed.Their hope was to wait and find out how many votes would be needed to overcome Hillary.Those touchtone screen new voteing machies have no paper trail.Lake County is ALWAYS the last county in the state of Indiana to come in on election night.You can take that statement to the bank.They have a crooked mayor in Gary,but the good think is that Indiana has gone RED in every Nov election since 1964.They will go Red this year for McCain.Id bet a years salary on that fact!!

Larry Sinclair Obama Drug Scandal
Investigate

What’s so surprising about Lake County irregularities, it’s practically a suburb of Chicago. There’s probably no more of a rats nest of voter fraud than in Chicago and the surrounding area. It’s been that way with crooked politicians since before the Depression.

[...] county electons board itself is stuffed with Democrat party hacks, from what I’m hearing. Shushannah Walshe at Fox: Rokita mentioned Lake County’s less than stellar reputation when it comes to their election [...]

i think there is hanky panky going on ,but there is nothing we can do about it.but i will vote for mccain over obama.if the votes were done on monday why did they wait till tuesday to count, doesnt make any since. sounds like mayer rudy clay is crooked , doesnt surprise me.

Even Rush Limbaugh knows what Hillary supporters knew from the beginning. He admitted Obama is the much weaker candidate against McCain. So all you Obama Zombies enjoy Obama’s downfall this fall.

Comment by Former Bush Supporter
May 7th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Comment by Old Democrat
May 7th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

Cook County Illinois/Lake County Indiana…same old story. When is someone going to step up and do something about it?
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Bush got about 6% of African American votes and Kerry Got the rest—so what does this mean?

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It means that apparently 94 % are easily fooled into voting for a Massachusetts elitist far Left Liberal. Any other questions?

And it doesn’t change the fact that the Lake County Indiana ballots were counted in secret and that Cook County Illinois is one of these most questionable political machines in the country.

[...] desperate for any bit of drama to spice up those seven hours of news moment, jumped all by it. Indiana’s Lake County didn’t turn in its results within the same day as the other voters. Naturally, “hanky [...]

I donated $50 to Hilary campaign.
Go and google e-mail address for Pelosy and Howard Dean and e-mail them. I did - I vowed to vote Mccain if Obama is nominated. Omaba is a hater and divider - full of hot air - He promises chanage but is short on specifics.
Did you guys hear last night the talking media that the DNC may force Obama to take Hilary as VP?
Isn’t this the funiest thought ever? Obama president and Hilary VP-HA HA

Imagine for s second Hilary would have attended a US hating church for 20 years, imagine Rev, Wright was white and was Clinton’s ’spiritual mentor’. BY GOD she would have been lynched by now!! Why do we have different standards for different skin color in this country? NOBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!

[...] desperate for any bit of drama to spice up those seven hours of news time, jumped all over it. Indiana’s Lake County didn’t turn in its results within the same time as the other voters. Naturally, “hanky panky” was [...]

I would like all those who continue to play the race card and assume what African-Americans are going to do in this election to read this. Let me state first that I’m a proud African-American man and proud American. For the first time in history we have the opportunity to elect an African-American or Female to the highest position in the land. Now African-Americans never had a problem with Hillary running for the Presidency and possibly supporting her. But Hillary shot herself in the foot time and time again during the process that has virtually made it impossible for her to get the nomination and honestly to be taken seriously in the future. None of Hillary’s issues during this campaign did Obama cause she caused them herself. It is no secret that yes African-Americans are going to support Obama in the election. We are supporting him and alot of white, asian, and latino Americans because it is time for a change. We have been under the Clinton/Bush administrations since 1988 (20 yrs). Obama has ran an excellent campaign and has stayed above the fray and mudslinging which is refreshing for alot of Americans. Obama could have made gender an issue because we all know that it is no easier for a woman to ascend to the Presidency than an African-American. Obama gave Hillary the respect she deserved because she is a qualified candidate for the office also, but the same respect was not given to Obama. Everyone wants to talk about if Hillary doesn’t win we are not voting for Obama and the reason is not because your candidate did not win or the other is not qualified, BOTH of them are highly qualified. The reason why you will not support Obama is because he is an African-American. We want to sensationalize the Rev. Wright story and label him a racist, but you all thinking along the same lines but in reverse. You would be fooolish to give the position to McCain because you are saying that the way things are in this country and abroad are okay and if that is how you feel I guess I need to be living in your little world, because for alot of Americans things are not okay. We as Democrats need to get behind whoever gets the nomination and support them and leave some of these nasty characteristics to the Republicans that have been displayed among Democrats during this process.

Obama’s cronies in Gary, Indiana were caught red-handed stealing votes for Obama. The only reason Obama is leading in pledged delegates is because in the Republican caucus states that Obama won, this vote stealing for Obama also took place. However, this time the spotlight was right on Gary, Indiana so thay were forced to stop the cheating for Obama. Hillary won Indiana, but would have won by even a wider margin had Obama’s cronies in Gary, Indiana not pulled these shenanigans. Also the polling shows that Rev. Wright and bittergate did, in fact, hurt Obama with white folks. The polls are eschewed toward black voters thoughts and opinions so are not showing the true numbers that dislike Obama.

Voter fraud in heavilly democratic precincts? What a shock that is. There may very well be voter fraud in Lake county but I feel the main reason was to wait out the media and the speeches by the candidates declaring victory. They accomplished that by delaying the tally. Clinton had to go on the air not declaring victory and most people were asleep at that time on the east coast. That truly was a mission accomplished by the mayor who happens to be an Obama supporter. I find it humorous and it will continue to drive a wedge through the democratic party. Hillary Clinton is going to the convention for a fight plain and simple. As a Mccain supporter I feel that the democrats are handing him the presidency on a silver platter. Way to go Dems.

he predictions of the mayor intimating that there was a vast reservoir of votes in Gary that would, if his percentages were correct, turn the tide and secure an Obama victory were unethical and calculated. It was untrue. Late, Fox showed Hillary leading by 21,000 with 90% counted. Then there was a dip at 95% to 17,00 which seemed to give credibility to the mayor’s assertions. But by the time 100% were counted the margin had in fact increased to about 23,000.

He took advantage of the late reporting to in effect freeze the media from calling the race for Clinton, as had CBS. The fear of being wrong was to some degree understandable. It is hard to believe that these were the actions of an independent rogue politician. It is more plausible that he did it with the full agreement, indeed the blessing of the Obama campaign.

This has been a chronic problem in Gary and was even predictable.

Had the votes been assessed earlier, as the several mayor in Clinton towns surrounding Gary
stated they could and should have been, the race would have been called much earlier. As the Hammond mayor stated, they submitted their vote I believe around 7 PM. She had to carry virtually every other town heavily to offset the admittedly large margin in Gary. The final county number was about 55-45, I believe.

The race would have been called when Clinton still had over a 4 point lead and probably more. The storyline and punditry would have had to be quite different, i.e. “Clinton still alive, splits with Obama.” The fact that Obama later narrowed the gap so much would have been more of a footnote. On many other levels, it was insidious. Once the talking heads had established a position, it was difficult, nay impossible, to take a different tack. In effect, once the consensus was that Clinton was on the verge of defeat, ego and other considerations sealed her fate.

The final crusher was the demoralizing of the Clinton faithful and the huge collateral impact on her immediate fund raising ability. An early Clinton victory likely would have energized supporters and led to an impulsive infusion of funds, as happened in Pa. As it was, by the time the squeaker was called, there was some uncertainty as to whether she would continue. On numerous blogs, Obama agents came in saying that she had canceled all appearances the next morning. True or not, it abetted the idea that she might quit. There are few people that will give, certainly not as generously, to retire a campaign debt as they will to an ongoing energetic campaign.

oooooh oga you said lynched in nthe same breath . you think that dont sound racist. by GOD you must be racist. oh i am sorry you said lynched but meant something else.but let me say the black people are the very racist people we dont have a white school we dont have a united white peoples blck colleage fund
. and i say we want one now. aor i will statr burnning down my town or maybe even whack someone in the face if they dont give me my obama obama my saviior youll get me anything i want oooh you are so black i just can see you visiting the muslum countries youd fit right in. and get us blown to smitherines but no your kool hey i drink your koolaid
i gonna get u sucka should be your theme song. 95 percent white peoples gonna vote for john mccain now you mark my words .hill ary you say what. hillary who?

The “Change” Obama is so obsessed with looks more like Chicago politics replacing Washington’s politics. Interesting that a Chicago suburb was the last one to turn in votes and that those votes went overwhelmingly for Obama. If no one else has accused Obama of being a dirty liar on this thread yet please let me be the first to do so. Obama is a liar and so are his supporters. He hates this country, its culture and its traditions. He would be a better fit for president of Syria than of the USA.

The Justice Department should monitor all Lake County elections to put an end to their cheating and manipulation of the vote.

Thanks Mike for your msg. I am glad you speak for all African-Americans…I have been looking for someone for a long time who does.

You are certainly a racist, as evidenced by your statement, ” Everyone wants to talk about if Hillary doesn’t win we are not voting for Obama and the reason is not because your candidate did not win or the other is not qualified, BOTH of them are highly qualified. The reason why you will not support Obama is because he is an African-American.” SO, your theory pre-supposes if Hillary does not gain the nomination, the white electorate will not vote for Obama because he is a black man. That view is as flawed as the views espoused by “Reverend” Wright, and smacks of the rhetoric from the 1960’s and before.

I will vote for the best candidate, period, irregardless of party or color or gender. Please do not do my thinking for me; you are not qualified.

I can tell you this with all sincerity; I have been attending white churches for 45 years. I have NEVER heard a statement criticial of African Americans, or any other race. I have never heard the United States of America denounced in any form. If I had…I would have done more then walk out…I would have disrupted the service, made my views known….and carried a picket sign outside the building until “change” had been made.

Give my regards to Reverend Wright when you see him again. Thank HIM for the controversy surrounding Obama, and for the racial views you so cleverly try to hide.

Well, do you think there was cheating…….of course. Hillary got a slim win because of it. I think every vote in that County needs to be recounted with Hillary supporters sitting in. Cheating is never the way to do anything. That will come back to bite Obama.

When I saw on TV the ones counting the votes, I made my own judgement, and now we have state officials wondering if that happened. Lets not wonder and wait for the next election to fix things, lets do it over an do it right in that County.

WOW I CAN SENSE THE DESPERATION COMING FROM CLINTON SUPPORTERS, YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF LOOSERS BACKING A LOOSER CANDIDATE THAT WONT EVEN ADMIT DEFEAT AND EVERYONE KNOWS THATS WHAT LOOSERS DO.

It is obvious that Mayor Clay was involved in some dirty tricks behind closed doors! He had said in March that Gary was going to be the winning factor for Obama! Is he psychic???

Gary, Indiana is notorious for corruption. Was this in play the other night during that long delay after the polls closed?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/07/AR2008050703105.html

I be an ignorant monkey that can’t even spell lose :0!!

I have donated to Clinton, she needs our support and I will support her any way I can. She is the only one running that I trust to do right by me the hard working middle class. Obama is an elitist as evidenced by many remarks he has made. Including the remark by his wife about never being proud until now of America. Of course she has such a hard time paying for day care with her 2$200,000+ salary. I make $25,000 a year I would like her to try to make ends meet on that! Yet I am and always have been proud of my country. Obama and his “bitter” comment makes me laugh. The only bitter people I have seen in this process is the black racists. Obama has divided this country in ways it hasn’t been divided since before MLK. I believe MLK would be ashamed of him. MLK would never have attended Obama’s church for 20 years. Obama has bought this election. He has taken money from lobbyist only in a round about way, thru family and friends. He has promised the unions help getting them deregulated like they were in the old Jimmy Hoffa days. Check out the taped meeting he had with the Teamsters and his remark that having friends in the WH can get things done for you. His election to the IL Senate was arranged by Rezko and he went virturally uncontested. Rezko, his friends, including Ayers and Rev. Wright all helped to get him elected to the US Senate. They taught him well.

Please all american.s go read obama.s book that should tell all the american people that obama has a score to settle with the white american.s and that is why he want.s to become president to settle that score againt.s white american.s i live in california and we the hispanic.s will change our vote to republican if hillary is not elected obama and his wife want to get even with the white american.s we do not need that right now in california he will lose big time