Well nothing like positive thinking and….er….subtle hints

Clean and to the point…I liked it!

I’m a Hillary supporter, but it’s a very good add. I’ve always liked John McCain.

You betcha….

Obama doesn’t have a chance against McCain. Vote Hillary to compete.

I liked the ad.
McCain looks very Presidential.
He’s a class act!

Health care is a very important issue. However, the ONLY ISSUE that MATTERS RIGHT NOW is that of SECURITY. Obama? Hillary? No possible way. John McCain is the one for this critical time in history.

Jimbo.
Hope your Saturday is going well.
Just wanted to drop you a post saying I agree with you.
National security is a huge issue.
One point to make.
There is no such thing as National security if there is no such thing as border security.

Jimbo.
McCain has said he wants the borders secured.
He has my attention.
No immigration plan will work if the borders remain porous, either.

Hi RC.

Vonay.
Hillary Clinton was impressive on O’Reilly the other night.
O”Reilly was pretty impressive to.
I’m still on the fence between McCain and Clinton.
They are far apart on some issues and very close on others.
Obama is no longer a consideration for me.

Jo Ann

Thanks for note. Right on re. immigration. Re. race itself; John has been there. He has paid his due abroad and here. There are some jobs that are not commensurate with on the job training. The presidency is one of them.

President McCain?!?

I LIKE IT!!

I like the ad, I disagree with his policies but I think McCain is a stand-ish up guy. But I saw immigration mentioned… what is his immigration policy these days? I would expect most people on the right to be against McCain on immigration, i know he’s flip flopped alot recently, so it may be different that it was. I’m just curious what is his immigration plan?

Jo Anne,

What McCain policies do you agree with?

great ad—president MCCAIN

I am a retired school teacher (parochial). I do own some stock that helps me get by. Both Hillary and Obama want to raise the capital gains tax (that’s when you sell and make a profit). McCain wants to keep the tax the same or lower it. Every time the tax is lowered the Fed Gov revenue goes up. Very few of we shareholders are the FAT CATS the Dems keep talking about. Just trying to keep our heads above water.

Some real numbers….

Okay, all liberal bashing aside. I thought I would give you all a glimpse of Hillary’s proposals if she is elected as President; and then you can decide whether or not we can afford her spending habits.

Source: Townhall Magazine, January 2008, Premier Issue

- Universal Healthcare – Cost: $110 Billion
- Strategic Energy Fund – Cost: $50 Billion
- Create “American Retirement Accounts” – Cost: $20-25 Billion
- Universal Paid Leave – Cost: $1.75 Billion
- College Affordability – Cost: $8 Billion
- Global Aids Prevention – Cost: $50 Billion
- Universal Pre-Kindergarten – Cost: $10 Billion
- Aid for ailing bridges – Cost: $10 Billion
- Double the National Institute of Health’s Budget – Cost: $2.8 Billion
- Increase funding for public transportation – Cost: $1.5 Billion
- Aid for passenger rail services – Cost: $1 Billion
- Green Building Fund – Cost: $1 Billion
- Foreclosure Prevention for “at risk” borrowers – Cost: $1Billion
- Increased funding for subsidized rental housing – Cost: $1 Billion
- Increased funding for autism research – Cost: $700 Million
- Double the National Cancers Institute’s Budget – Cost: $500 Million
- More National Science Foundation Fellowships – Cost: $388 Million
- Funding for “congestion reduction” – Cost: $350 Million
- Second Change education for felons – Cost: $300 Million
- U.S. Public Service Academy – Cost: $200 Million
- Increase Physical Education programs in public schools – Cost: $36 Million
- Funding for cancer survivor groups – Cost: $25 Million
- Create a “Corporate Subsidy Information Service” agency – Cost: $15 Million

Let’s see…that’s 23 brand new programs and $265 Billion. It doesn’t stop here either. This list is only a sample of Hillary’s proposals. The full list can be viewed here and totals close to $778.6 Billion.

So I am scratching my head in amazement, wondering — who in the hell is going to pay for this?

Yah know, I am not totally against all of Hillary’s proposals. Some are quite noble and I just might support a few of them (i.e. funding cancer survivor groups, Aids Preventions, and Autism research).

But….

I really don’t want to pay for someone else’s healthcare when mine already costs so much to support my family.
I don’t want to pay for other kids to go to college when I am busting my ass trying to put away money for my own daughter’s college tuition.
I don’t want to bail out those home owners who made bad decisions and bought homes they couldn’t afford.
And, I surely don’t want to spend my hard working cash flow supporting programs for felons. HELL NO.
So I ask this simple question…Can we afford Hillary as President of the United States?

And Obama’s programs are cheaper.

Pamela.
That’s why we are conservatives. SMALLER gov equals more money in our pockets. BIGGER gov means everybody loses. Pretty simple, but a lot of people don’t get that. Deductive reasoning is not part of the Dem thought process.

Jimbo, We don`t get to enjoy the insider trading tips the fat cats do. They can diversify, or sell before they lose anything. If you never lose, you can afford the tax. Funny how that works.

Ads for Obama in Pennsylvania had on the screen:

Barack Obama
President

To RC MO.
Trust me, the so called fat cats don’t add up to a hill of beans economically, compared to the millions of shareholders who do make a profit. when selling their shares. Your FAT CAT analogy is mostly Dem Gobbledygook.

Comment by Jimbo
May 3rd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Pamela.
That’s why we are conservatives. SMALLER gov equals more money in our pockets. BIGGER gov means everybody loses. Pretty simple, but a lot of people don’t get that. Deductive reasoning is not part of the Dem thought process.
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Exactly!

All the Clintons think they need to do is say “we feel your pain” and libs think they are the only ones who “care”. Libs do not think all their pandering will cost us all.

Jimbo, I was talking about the Dem. fat cats like Obama, and Hillary who are in the position to enforce the tax, and who also play the markets. They could also dodge prosecution if ever caught.

I can’t McCain believe he think the price of medical care is going to be controlled by free market. That will never happen look at the gas prices they only vary a cent here and there through out any American City but there are several different gas companes in the city. You will see that same practice wil health care. By the way did anybody think that was a nice clip. I think it have bold problems.

RC MO
Sorry, I missed that one.

If Hillary don’t win….GO McCain…..Theres something that scares me
about Obama….Maybe more will come out…Allready found out Wrights’
version of Black Theology which is very scary…Obama/Michelle listened
to that for 20 years…Plus Ob/Michelle are racists……They don’t like
America or respect Old Glory……enough said….Check out Black Theology….
Remember Wright has carried it to the extreme…Which to me is scary…

Medicare is a mess!! How in the heck can the Fed Gov direct Universal Health Care which will be many times more complex, when it can’t even handle Medicare. BUT THE FUNDAMENDAL QUESTION IS ———– WHY SHOULD IT? McCain has offered some simple ways to help the private system work better - MAKES SENSE TO ME!!!

Who’s McCain pastor? The guy don’t even go the church, but none of that matters Right?

Medicare is a mess, food stamp program disaster, no child left behind disaster, drained Social Security yes put them in charge of my health care.

Jimbo:
Thanks for your post. I was beginning to think I was one dumb schmuck for being the only one in America who wasn’t a rich fat cat or had money invested in a 401k. I have a small amount in a mutual fund and pay capital gains tax, so I guess we don’t fit Senator Obama’s majority, do we?

Nobody is giving out food stamps and medicare. Who can use affordable health care. Giving people a tax break knowing you still can’t afford to buy a health care plan. Of course I think health care should be free until a child is at the minimum working age.

To AreYouKiddingMe

I could live with an atheist as president as long as he (she) loves America. Religion should not be a major issue in a presidential race. Unfortunately, Obama got himself hooked up this this crazy nut case, now he has to live with it. Obama has used that church for establishing his base. He probably should have used another venue. If he still has aspirations of a higher office, he should get out of that church. I personally know of new pastor’s (Rev Moss) background and he is pretty much of the same mold as Wright - hopefully a little more discreet?

AreYouKiddingMe who pays?

Hillary should be ashame to have a campaign advisor working for her in 2008 now who called the people of Indiana WORTHLESS SH-T. and called the people of Indiana WHITE N-GGERS. I find the comment very offensive to the people of Indiana and Hillary still has this guy working for her while she campaigns in Indiana. This is what she thinks about the people of Indiana. It is all on YOUTUBE also.

Comment by AreYouKiddingMe
May 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Nobody is giving out food stamps and medicare. Who can use affordable health care. Giving people a tax break knowing you still can’t afford to buy a health care plan. Of course I think health care should be free until a child is at the minimum working age.
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Are you saying parents should not be responsible for paying for their childrens health care?

Its funny how the majority on this site are in the tank for Mcain–I hope you all get used to it but OBAMA is going to be the next president and rightfully so. As O Reilly would say he is looking out for you–the American people and all you people have on him is a guilt by association. He already stated he DOESNT agree with what that pastor says NOW and if anybody truley believes that Obama has those views then you people are just plain idiots and shouldnt even be allowed to vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!And by the way, I want a president who can communicate and actually give a speech that makes sense. Good Luck on getting that from Mccain—–Just look him up on youTube if you want a good laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant even believe he made it as far as he did!!!!!!!!!Then again, look at our current President!!!!!!!!!!

I’m saying All Americans should pay for health care to the kids. I don’t understand it seem like no one have a problem paying for public education. But you don’t want to help pool money together and pay for health care. Where is your America pride.

T. Money

It really isn’t about Wright. It is about Obama’s judgement (lack of) in setting himself up for this disaster and in not doing a very good job of handling it. He also is carrying a lot of negative baggage that has nothing to do with Wright. I am a Rep, and at this point I think that Hillary would be definitely harder for McCain to beat in Nov. Dems need to take back their party. By the way, the communication thing you mentioned is really grasping at straws - JUST DEM GOBBLEDEGOOK!! Is that your best shot at McCain?

I’m looking at my healthy son right now as he watching our flat screen and you’ll are probably doing something similiar. If I knew if I paid a few extra dollars to ensure every chld in American can get the health care they deserve for being an American citizen. Where do I sign up. I know most of you feel the same way. Right?

areyoukiddingme, Thinking like that is what makes the minimum working age, NEVER.

President McCain sounds ok to me. The ad’s fine…..

Compare it to Obama’s ad saying he doesn’t take oil company money…but doesnt’ tell us NO ONE does..because IT”S ILLEGAL…but Obama doesn’t tell us he takes money from Oil Company Law Firms instead.

You all really think McCain have a chance…he’s running against himself right now and still losing over 25% of the vote, and he is consistently making huge mistakes each week and getting free passes because the media can’t make money off him right now. You wait to the general election start even Fox News will turn on him for increase rating. I hope he fair will but I still don’t see him coming close to Obama. Even with all the negatives some people thinks he has.

RC Mo So you saying all the kids in American should not have free health care? So parents are idiots but that should not be held against the child.

The most recent polls are saying that Hillary will have a much better chance against McCain than would Obama. I agree.

Comment by Jimbo
May 4th, 2008 at 12:25 am
T. Money

It really isn’t about Wright. It is about Obama’s judgement (lack of) in setting himself up for this disaster and in not doing a very good job of handling it. He also is carrying a lot of negative baggage that has nothing to do with Wright. I am a Rep, and at this point I think that Hillary would be definitely harder for McCain to beat in Nov. Dems need to take back their party. By the way, the communication thing you mentioned is really grasping at straws - JUST DEM GOBBLEDEGOOK!! Is that your best shot at McCain?

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That’s what the Dems don’t get….McCain’s vetted. He’s had many years in the Senate, a campaign against Dubyah in 2000 for any of McCain’s dirty laundry to be presented and examined.

Hagee, Parsley…are just endorsers. They’ve made kooky assertions about radical Islam and the Catholic Church and society’s inquities, but have kept all their rhetoric within theological arguments (which I don’t agree with)…not, social, political and race as Wright has and more importantly, they’ve never asked God to d@mn America. Unlike Obama, McCain doesn’t have a 20 year relationship with any of them, a book inspired by them, married by them, children baptised by them, uses any of them as “a sounding board” (Obama’s description of Wright) for his conscience. Nor have they suggested the government has invented viruses and bombs to harm black people.

The Dems are shooting blanks and Wright’s damage is done…and I have feeling he’ll come out with more.

I’m saying all kids in America should not have free health care because it is not free someone has to pay for it.

Jimbo,

You know any Dem is going to have the upper hand on McCain because of Bush. That is the only reason Hill is stay trying to win a race she can’t win.

For those of you who are still out there - It has often been said that members of the left think with their feelings, rather than using deductive reasoning. Some of these posts surely support that observation. Nite nite!!

Comment by AreYouKiddingMe
May 4th, 2008 at 12:35 am
You all really think McCain have a chance…he’s running against himself right now and still losing over 25% of the vote, and he is consistently making huge mistakes each week and getting free passes because the media can’t make money off him right now. You wait to the general election start even Fox News will turn on him for increase rating. I hope he fair will but I still don’t see him coming close to Obama. Even with all the negatives some people thinks he has.

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No, McCain isnt’ getting free passes at all. It’s because unlike Hillary and Obama, none of it sticks to McCain because when it’s examined it falls away.

McCain doesn’t have conflicting memories about NAFTA and Bosnia, nor does he have vague and contrary conclusions about capital gains taxes, HUGE proposed spending policies, HUGE earmarks for 2009 (in fact McCain has ZERO dollars earmarked for 2009) an intimate relationship with a race baiter, an unrepenent terrorist or a polical strongarmer like Rezko, or some kind of nebulous “strike force” of 30,000 strong based “somewhere” authorised to do..well Obama hasn’t told us yet.

In polls McCain is topping sentiment over his own party’s numbers. That is, where voters question a republican, they’re more receptive to McCain himself. In an election year where a war and a strained economy should be the knock out punches, McCain is either beating, levelling or slightly behind his two opposing party proposed nominees. That..doesnt’ bode well for the Dems at all.

Truth,
We (the American people) paid for education. Its time to pay for minimum health care for the kids. If you feel your child deserve better you could pay additional fees just like people that send their kids to private school. We need to get on board with this. Rep/Dem standing side by side jst like when we unite to defense the country.

Tel…
Less wait to the general and see if it stick in the general.

Comment by AreYouKiddingMe
May 4th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Truth,
We (the American people) paid for education. Its time to pay for minimum health care for the kids. If you feel your child deserve better you could pay additional fees just like people that send their kids to private school. We need to get on board with this. Rep/Dem standing side by side jst like when we unite to defense the country.

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You mean the way Canada does? The fact that they come to the US to get timely and quality healthcare is conveniently forgotten though…at least by Michael Moore.

Jimbo

What baggage are you talking about and dont even say that “bitter crap” that the media spun so wildly out of control. What he said was true-You ask ANY pastor that when there is a time of crisis like Katrina or 9/11 church attendance will RISE and take ANY area with a high crime rate and I GUARENTEE more people own a gun then in another quieter area. And I believe it was Hillarys best friend in PA, Michael Nutter, who I can quote ” We need to get AL Gangster instead of AL Queda,” so apparently people do cling to their guns and religion. The bottom line is this, McCain, for his age, should be the smartest one in the bunch, but reality is he isnt even close. And like I said, if he doesnt even know what he is talking about do you really want him as president. I want the war over with and anyone with children should to. I have no problem going to war when it is just. But we Americans were all lied to. and i want a president who can relate to the average person. Obama came from nothing so he knows what it is like to pay for things out of his pocket and he is also a uniter. That is why he is going to win

Right, and when the Fed Gov. got involved in Education this system went to pot. Another example of why a lot of us are conservatives. We at least have a general idea of what works well and what does not and WHY!!!

Comment by AreYouKiddingMe
May 4th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Tel…
Less wait to the general and see if it stick in the general.

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You’re not grasping it are you?

The damage is done to Obama, he’s perceived as a far left liberal at this point with questionable associations, a demeaning perception of working class America, inexperience and ineptitude in taxation and policy. He could divorce Michelle Obama, marry Ann Coulter and become a Catholic and STILL no one would buy it.

Comment by T Money
May 4th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Jimbo

What baggage are you talking about and dont even say that “bitter crap” that the media spun so wildly out of control. What he said was true-You ask ANY pastor that when there is a time of crisis like Katrina or 9/11 church attendance will RISE and take ANY area with a high crime rate and I GUARENTEE more people own a gun then in another quieter area. And I believe it was Hillarys best friend in PA, Michael Nutter, who I can quote ” We need to get AL Gangster instead of AL Queda,” so apparently people do cling to their guns and religion. The bottom line is this, McCain, for his age, should be the smartest one in the bunch, but reality is he isnt even close. And like I said, if he doesnt even know what he is talking about do you really want him as president. I want the war over with and anyone with children should to. I have no problem going to war when it is just. But we Americans were all lied to. and i want a president who can relate to the average person. Obama came from nothing so he knows what it is like to pay for things out of his pocket and he is also a uniter. That is why he is going to win

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See, this is the falacy the left likes to spin about Obama

You’re quite wrong, Obama went to one of the most elite schools in Hawaii as a child, then attended school in Indonesia. He then attended Harvard. I’m not seeing a lot of “coming from nothing” there.

Obama’s baggage? Are you serious? Expand your horizons. The last guy on the long and growing list El-Hady from Toledo, OH. El-Hady, was a fundraiser for the terrorists who now is a fundraiser for Obama. The Feds shut down his terrorist operation last year. Google him.

Obama came from a middle class family. His grandfather was a wealthy man in Kenya and a chief. He did go to an elite private school in Hawaii. He also went to Colombia and Harvard.

Jimbo

Talk about spinning!!!!!!!!!
Take McCains family monetary value from age 1-20, Take Hillarys monetary family value from age 1-20, take Obamas monetary family value from age 1-20 ENOUGH SAID –SPIN THAT

So, let me see. 911 never happened? Some of you guys think that if we just leave Iraq it will all be over?? ARE YOU NUTS?? The terrorists want us dead. Iraq is nothing. It’s safer here right now than in Chicago!! Get with reality!!

And don’t forget..Obama’s parents met at University in Hawaii, NOT at Selma as Obama has stated..the date is the evidence, Selma happened 4 years after Obama was born. Of course Selma appeals to liberals because it was a civil rights rally and would make baby Obama a child of the movement..however, Obama seems to have forgotten the year he was born in (1961), Selma was 1965.

The best part? Obama is on record as saying it. He seems to have Hillary’s recall problems…Bosnia?

And Hillary? She says she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary and the climbing of Everest..unfortunately, she was born in 1951, Sir Edmund climbed themountain in 1953.

Jimbo

Elhady!!! Thats the problem with you Right wing people-lets stay focused — Is Obama Elhady, the last time i checked they are 2 different people just like you guys try to say wright and obama are the same people-Who is running for president –Hady Wright or Obama –or is that to hard a question

Let’s not forget if it weren’t for President Kennedy his dad would not have been airlifted to Hawaii to go to college. Oh that’s right Kennedy wasn’t president until 2 years after his father came to Hawaii.

Comment by Truth
May 4th, 2008 at 1:25 am
Let’s not forget if it weren’t for President Kennedy his dad would not have been airlifted to Hawaii to go to college. Oh that’s right Kennedy wasn’t president until 2 years after his father came to Hawaii.

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LOL…the prosecution rests (for now).

WHAT DOES MONETARY VALUE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? I taught at a very prestigious high school in Cleveland where most of the kids were from rich families. Guess what? Most had part time jobs after school. Huh?

Comment by T Money
May 4th, 2008 at 1:23 am
Jimbo

Elhady!!! Thats the problem with you Right wing people-lets stay focused — Is Obama Elhady, the last time i checked they are 2 different people just like you guys try to say wright and obama are the same people-Who is running for president –Hady Wright or Obama –or is that to hard a question

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Obama is asking for the presidency..unfortunately he’s closely associated to a lot of people that don’t like the U.S.

Good talking to you truth–maybe someday you will see it!! Just kidding that is why i like America because after all is said and done –our two cents probably wont even matter–and if i knew you id even buy you a beer!!!

AYKM–

Besides all of the very good points already made to you about “free” health care, let me add one other significant reason that your idea is not a good one.

You said you are sitting their watching your healthy son and your big screen TV and thinking how you’d be willing to pay a few bucks so that all children would be covered to working age. Well, that’s admirable and it’s also a prime example of liberals making decisions on “feelings” and the desire to be “kind” and “sharing”. Well, this is what is known as the slippery slope. Where will that type of reasoning take us? Where will it end? What will be the next “fair” thing to do because it will make us “feel” good about ourselves?

This creeping socialism reminds me of the frog put into a pot of cold water and the burner turned on to high. At first the frog is comforted by the increasing warmness of the water and probably even hopes for more warmth to come. But, as the water increases to a dangerously high temp the frog has acclimated to the last level of heat and can’t sense the danger and jump out of the pot. Well, we all know the frog is cooked in the end.

This is almost exactly how Hillary explained how the Liberals would come back to after her first attempt at nationalizing health care was defeated during her husbands first term. She basically said we went for too much at once. We have to start smaller and once we get our nose under the tent, we can get more annd more and more…….the frog won’t resist as much…

We , as a society, have already been in that pot for some time. Now, “free” health care is being proposed. The heat is pretty high. I for one want to jump out and turn the burner off. But, if we keep making decisions on “feelings” and “fairness” we’ll all be in the pot to an inevitable boiling.

The end of that road is socialism and a nation were individual iniative and accomplishment will be about the level it was in Soviet Russia. So, spare me the bleeding heart approach to public policy.

Thanks T Money you are probably right our two cents won’t be worth anything, but this is still the greatest country to live in.

TRUTH

Amen to that!!!!

Truth–

I just caught up with your last convo with T Money.

You know, it’s strange how some people who I couldn’t agree with on a single point politically can still manage to express their ideas without completely pi$$ing me off (like T Money) and others make me want to crash my laptop over my head. BTW, I have a large number of my relatives who fall into the first group and a larger number of relatives who fall into the second…hmmmm…

Kelly they proved that was phony. It was a film doctored by guess who? AN OBAMA supporter.
Obama supporters probably swung the Guam election also. Where did all those missing ballots go in a heavy Hillary distict?

Comment by kelly
May 4th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Hillary should be ashame to have a campaign advisor working for her in 2008 now who called the people of Indiana WORTHLESS SH-T. and called the people of Indiana WHITE N-GGERS. I find the comment very offensive

—–B.O. spit in the face of the American people, Bkack and White.—–
——————Why would anyone hire him——————-

I will try again.

Are you people ready for what is to come in the next few months as your boy gets the spotlight on him? Poor old codger is going to be crucified over his Vietnam ‘hero’ stuff, more than Kerry ever was.

Here is a sample from the famous (late) Colonel Hackforth:

John McCain is being hailed by the press as a “genuine war hero.”

Yet in McCain’s own words just four days after being captured, he admits he violated the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors “O.K, I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.”

A Vietnam vet detractor says, “He received the nation’s third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason. He provided aid and comfort to the enemy! The facts are that he signed a confession and declared himself a “black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate.” This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press press were used as propaganda to fan the flames of the antiwar movement.

McCain refused an early release. An act of valor? Three former POWs told me he was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he “just followed orders.”

Well, putting up “President McCain” instead “McCain for President” is only the first lie he’s telling about want to fix health care much less having a good plan in place to do so.

Hillary is passionate about this and has been working on it for 15 years. If anyone is going to get something done about it, she is.

MADAME PRESIDENT.

Comment by Dan
May 4th, 2008 at 8:02 am

Well, putting up “President McCain” instead “McCain for President” is only the first lie he’s telling about want to fix health care much less having a good plan in place to do so.

Hillary is passionate about this and has been working on it for 15 years. If anyone is going to get something done about it, she is.

MADAME PRESIDENT.
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Actually Hillary’s only try with health care was in the 90s during Bubbas Administration…and she pretty much crashed and burned

It’s very unfortunate that the Dems are seriously considering Obama for the nomination. His complete lack of judgement in associating with so many bad guys has caused his campaign to falter. There are any number of blacks qualified to become president, mostly Republican, but not Obama. Personally as a Rep I would rather see him get the nomination - much easier to beat than Hillary.

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McKeebop..Well we’re certainly NOT going to support Obama. He’s the one that the VC and NVA
supporters in this country, during the war, are supporting for President, like Teddy K and “Hanoi Jane” Fonda.

I have one question that is the central undertone to just about everything in US politics and has been for the past 40 years.

Do you believe that most people in the US are in need of the government to assist them with some situation whether it be health care, fuel costs, college education, or retirement accounts…

OR

Do you think that people as a general rule are responsible for the care for and education their children, their retirement situation, and what kind of car they drive?

No matter how hard anyone or any government tries, there will always be people who are at a disadvantage in life depending on their situation. It is my opinion that the more we try to benefit some at the expense of others the closer the United States will move to a socialist system. It will not happen over night, but slowly over time the good intentions of politicians will gather like drops of watter in a bucket. Eventually that bucket will fill and the problems we face will still be here.

I used my real name on this post so you can Google me and see that I am not an elitist, nor am I a rich man. While I have great respect for the desires or Senators Obama and Clinton, I am afraid the only true difference between them is where the drop will fall in the bucket and how fast it will fill.

Don’t mistake my caution toward the Democratic candidates as support for McCain however. From everything I have seen over the years, McCain would prefer to hold the hose that fills the bucket rather than being responsible for the water its self.

Thor…you’ve hit the nail on the head.

IN addition to all the programs and expenses Pamela mentions, don’t forget some of the core Democrat policies in their platform.

Total confiscation of privately-held firearms
Elimination of alternative education programs (only the public school system will survive)
Race-based opportunities, instead of performance-based opportunities
Centralization of all government entitlement programs
Open borders, and easy citizenship for illegal aliens
Voting rights for illegals and felons
Taxes so high they drive even more business offshore
Income redistribution via regressive taxation
Elimination of alternative news sources, i.e., Fox News et.al.
More “Hate Crime” nonsense

Socialism, here we come…