Yeah Kentucky and Indiana, Vote for the filly!!!!

Gooo Hillary!!

http://www.hillaryclinton.com

When there are so many real issues that need addressing, I am tired of hearing cliques and sound bites. Hows this one for you…Who would vote on the old grey mare?

I see what is going on. The DNC and the elected superdelegates are pulling a coup d’ etat against the Clintons’ Democratic party stronghold. Howard Dean and the DNC are willing to nomminate a sure loser in November to protect the “black” vote. Hillary’s supporters will not forget this in November! John McCain will win 40 to 48 states in November!

Hilly the filly.

Is that anything like JoJo the dog faced boy?

David Shed,
“Who would vote on the old grey mare”? About 15 million plus!

To the obama supporters: As of MAY.
If you calculate the distribution of Electoral votes needed to become president during a general election (using the states that Hillary and obama won to date). You get:
Hillary: 236 + (Florida 27 and Michigan 17) = 280 obama: 202

As you see, Hillary has the 270 (actually 280) out of 538 needed to become president in the general election. Mr. obama is winning a lot of states with 4 or less Electoral votes and he has not won “any” of the states the Democrats need to win in November! If he can not win them now, how can he win them in November with obama getting around 30% of the white vote? Can you say Superdelegates! They should and must select the candidate with the best chance of winning in November or the democrats need to get use to saying, President McCain!

Come on Bruce, thats old math and it dosn’t reflect what the general will look like

Bruce, you are right on with your statement. I would just ad his starting out with two sure states..Fla. and MI…will repay the DNC in kind come November.

Hey Bruce you know I’m a betting man, not a good one but I’m trying, but I’ll bet you that when Obama gets the nomination, Hillary will be out campaigning for him. She’ll deliver OH, PA, and NY for him. personally i think she’ll have no choice.

Silly Hilly!

stop with the silly stories

you know we might be able to compare you to a mare-

but a filly? that would be another one of those exaggerations you are famous for-

come on stop being so silly.

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm

Hey Bruce you know I’m a betting man, not a good one but I’m trying, but I’ll bet you that when Obama gets the nomination, Hillary will be out campaigning for him. She’ll deliver OH, PA, and NY for him. personally i think she’ll have no choice.
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She will definitely have no choice but to campaign for him. She knows he will lose the general and she will want to be seen as a team player so she can get the nod in 2012.

Pamela
Isn’t a Philly a young female horse. Bad anology Hillary.

Andylit
Thats one of the reasons I think this race will be closer than a lot of people think, And I’m interested in seeing who Obama will choose as a running mate.

obama is getting 30% of the white democratic voters and 90% of the black democratic voters. 121 million people voted in 2004, and obama would get let’s say 45% (15% black and 30% WHITE) which is 54 million votes. John McCain gets 67 million plus votes!

and as far as 2012 goes, I think america will be done with the Clintons, Can’t say for sure but pretty sure.

Go Hillary!!!
IF Obama steals the nomintion by blocking FL & MI votes - I - and millions like me will have to vote for McCain. OBama will need FL & MI to win the general - but - if he counts them now - he will loose the nomination. Either way - he cannot and will not win!
The superdelegates want to win - that is all they care about - and obama will need more than just the all black vote and rich white folks - he will need ALL Americans - and FL & MI to win.

Andylit,
She will do know such thing! Hillary will sit on her hands! Hillary is taking this fight to denver!

Comment by Andylit
May 1st, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm

Hey Bruce you know I’m a betting man, not a good one but I’m trying, but I’ll bet you that when Obama gets the nomination, Hillary will be out campaigning for him. She’ll deliver OH, PA, and NY for him. personally i think she’ll have no choice.
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She will definitely have no choice but to campaign for him. She knows he will lose the general and she will want to be seen as a team player so she can get the nod in 2012.

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I agree.. it’s all about the Clintons. I think she wouldn’t help Obama unless she had her own motives. I am not sure ..but I don’t recall the Clintons helping Gore when he was running all to much. I know there is no love loss with the couples now. Can’t wait to hear him come out for oe or the other…just the fact he hasn’t come our for Hillary speaks volumes. Although I could careless what he thinks-just shows he even isn’t for Hillary.

Mike,
obama has lost the Reagan Democrats and independents! You know the Democrats that handed R. Reagan a 49 state victory in 1984!

Comment by Andylit
May 1st, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm

Hey Bruce you know I’m a betting man, not a good one but I’m trying, but I’ll bet you that when Obama gets the nomination, Hillary will be out campaigning for him. She’ll deliver OH, PA, and NY for him. personally i think she’ll have no choice.
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She will definitely have no choice but to campaign for him. She knows he will lose the general and she will want to be seen as a team player so she can get the nod in 2012.

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I agree.. it’s all about the Clintons. I think she wouldn’t help Obama unless she had her own motives. I am not sure ..but I don’t recall the Clintons helping Gore when he was running all to much. I know there is no love loss with the couples now. Can’t wait to hear him come out for oe or the other…just the fact he hasn’t come our for Hillary speaks volumes. Although I could careless what he thinks-just shows even
Gore isn’t for Hillary.

Bruce
do you think if Hillary diligently campaigns for Obama that those numbers will stay the same. I have the feeling that they will come up a bunch. She really dosn’t have a choice but to make it look good. It would be political suicide to look like she’s trying sink his campaign.

Comment by BRUCE
May 1st, 2008 at 10:12 pm

Andylit,
She will do know such thing! Hillary will sit on her hands! Hillary is taking this fight to denver!
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She may or may not. It very much depends on the outcome of the upcoming primaries and whether the SD’s start to defect. She may be crazy, but she’s not stupid.

If things stay tight, and the SD’s sit tight, and BO continues the have Wright eruptions, yes, she will take it to the non-smoking smoke filled room in Denver.

ooops -sorry did not want that twice

If she tries to sink his campaign, or refuse to help she might as well hang a big sign around her neck that says she cares more about herself than her party.

NO SENSE VOTING FOR “A DARK HORSE”

Andylit
I don’t know how you see it but I think the SD are waiting for any kind of a good reason to start the landslide toward Obama. she lost one and he gained one today. I bet that one stung.

Comment by gp
May 1st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
NO SENSE VOTING FOR “A DARK HORSE”
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gp Bill Clinton isn’t running.. anyway that’s what everyone keeps saying when anything is brought up against his morals

The question is not whether the Banshee will campaign for BO in the general. The question is will it matter?

For the last 2 months the BO apologists have been squawking that the Wright comments were taken out of context. That idiotic argument was thrown under the bus along with the good Rev Wright this weekend.

The man confirmed, on live national television, that he is indeed as big a nut case as the out of context snippets made him look like.

The question many are asking right now is, why did BO throw him under the bus now? BO claims the Press Club comments were outrageous, etc. Why are they outrageous now but they weren’t bad enough to ditch Wright a few weeks ago? If anything, they were milder than the comments from the various sermon clips.

BO waited too long and has lost even more credibility.

Mike,
“political suicide to look like she’s trying sink his campaign”.
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Pelosi, Howard Dean, and the rest of the party leadership has been trying to blame Hillary, because they know obama is a loser but they can not give it to Hillary because of the black vote! But Rev. Wright came along! Reagan Democrats will not vote for someone that IS AS LIBERAL as obama, no matter what Hillary does or doesn’t do!

I truely find it very odd that that Rev. Wright’s parishioners have not come out to defend the old man. I believe it was all set up because Obama’s poll numbers are dropping.Let’s not be fooled by this man. He is not a fighter like Hillary, he moves to slow. He should have come out months ago to denounce his pastor ,but he chose to do it now before the Primaries in North Carolina and Indiana. It’s going to be very sad for all Democrats to lose in November against McCain if he is the nominee of our party.

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:23 pm

Andylit
I don’t know how you see it but I think the SD are waiting for any kind of a good reason to start the landslide toward Obama. she lost one and he gained one today. I bet that one stung.
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I think the remaining SD’s are waiting for any kind of good reason to stampede to EITHER candidate.

It’s all about being seen with the right people. The SD’s who support the correct candidate will win the perks. The White House access, the patronage, etc.

Molly you have it absolutely correct.
Short term win for Obama is a lost in the GE for the Democrats.
FL and MI count Hillary Clinton wins, and win the GE.

Voters in prior states I assure you would not have voted for Obama had they known what we all know now about the Junior Senator. These voters will certainly migrate to Mc Cain.
I have no clue what the super delegates are thinking if they really think Obama can win in November, it is clearly not possible. 40% of Clinton voters will go to McCain, too much passion with her supporters for her to vote any other way.
DNC agenda is flawed and will fail if the push Obama down the middle america voters.

Andylit is right. obama is done!

Hillary wins IN by 3 and NC by 2!
Vote Hillary ‘08!

BRUCE
be that as it may, can Hillary bring his numbers up, I think she still has enough power to convince 75% of her voting base to switch to Obama. Actually I’m really interested in seeing exactually what she’ll do. Really try for the demacratic party, or show everyone that all she cares about is herself. This could be telling.

Comment by Bella in Florida
May 1st, 2008 at 10:27 pm

I truely find it very odd that that Rev. Wright’s parishioners have not come out to defend the old man. I believe it was all set up because Obama’s poll numbers are dropping.Let’s not be fooled by this man. He is not a fighter like Hillary, he moves to slow. He should have come out months ago to denounce his pastor ,but he chose to do it now before the Primaries in North Carolina and Indiana. It’s going to be very sad for all Democrats to lose in November against McCain if he is the nominee of our party.
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They are coming out. There have been a number of interviews with parishioners. They are hot, very hot. Some have commented that BO needs to find another church.

Please be very clear about why he was in that church. You have two choices.

1. He believes all garbage Wright preaches.

2. He got his butt kicked in his first campaign by a former Panther and decided he needed to be in a high profile black church.

Take you pick. They both stink.

Will Obama be at the Kentucky Derby like Hillary? Perhaps he increase his popularity there by dressing up like a jockey…maybe silently stand out on the lawn.

DNC agenda is flawed and will fail if the push Obama down the middle america voters.
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The DNC is traped by black Democratic voters, and would take a loss in November to keep the black vote!

Comment by Andylit
May 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
The question is not whether the Banshee will campaign for BO in the general. The question is will it matter?
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I think if she truly applies herself for the good of the party, she can make a huge difference. But like I said, it will be interesting to see what she does.

Mike,
Reagan Democrats in PA, FL, Ohio, and IN will not vote for obama no matter what anyone says or does!

I heard a good one on the Dennis Miller show a couple days ago.

Caller came up with a great label for Wright, the conceited nut.

Called him an “egotesticle”.

I know a few who fit that glove

You guys might think I`m nuts, but I think the only reason Hillary took on her Senate seat, was to later become President. It wasn`t for the sake of the good people of New York. She is sixty years old, and this could be her last chance at the White House. If she doesn`t get the nod, I don`t think she will not care about the Democratic party or her Senate seat. She probably won`t even seek re-election. Her and Bill will both fade of into history.

Remember in all the states Hillary won, she won with anti-obama votes.

typo, will should not be there.

If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination it will be very interesting to see how she conducts herself then.

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:38 pm

You guys might think I`m nuts, but I think the only reason Hillary took on her Senate seat, was to later become President. It wasn`t for the sake of the good people of New York. She is sixty years old, and this could be her last chance at the White House. If she doesn`t get the nod, I don`t think she will not care about the Democratic party or her Senate seat. She probably won`t even seek re-election. Her and Bill will both fade of into history.
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Not nuts at all. That has been the conventional assumption since day one. It is the reason they moved to NY.

I must be tired, even my typo correction was wrong.

I say Hillary runs as an independent in November!

BRUCE
Two things I think your overlooking, Hillary supporters (most thst is) Will follow her lead, like it or not, The only question is, will Hillary help or hinder. and second, John McCain is no Ronald reagan.

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
You guys might think I`m nuts, but I think the only reason Hillary took on her Senate seat, was to later become President. It wasn`t for the sake of the good people of New York. She is sixty years old, and this could be her last chance at the White House…

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RC MO

I don’t think your nuts RC…that is why she moved to New York, that’s why she chose New York, look how many points she gets for winning there…it was all planned out.

However, I think she will keep her Senate seat for as long as she can. Her entire life has been about the exercise of power and the manipulation of the system. They’ll have to drag her out with a meat hook.

Comment by BRUCE
May 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
I say Hillary runs as an independent in November!
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Might as well give McCain the keys now.

Andylit, I never knew what their tie to New York was. According to her, she is from everywhere.

Peter F. Paul has launched a new website to expose the upcoming landmark civil trial of Paul vs. Clinton which in now pending in a California court against former President Bill Clinton, with Senator Hillary Clinton as a material witness.A status conference hearing is scheduled for April 25, 2008, and a trial date is expected to be soon announced.Discovery in the case is expected to begin in May, 2008 as it proceeds to trial. The discovery will expose an ongoing cover-up of the campaign finance crimes and the obstructions of justice directed by Hillary Clinton with the help of Bill Clinton and former DNC Chair Ed Rendell. The cover-up rivals Watergate in its corruption of each branch of government and the media.Since the media still refuses to cover Senator Clinton’s involvement in the largest campaign finance fraud case in U.S. history, Paul will report on much of the news himself in this historic landmark case.For news and information on this case, you can visit PaulvClinton.com

RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Andylit, I never knew what their tie to New York was. According to her, she is from everywhere
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Not true, only where she’s campaigning.

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm

BRUCE
Two things I think your overlooking, Hillary supporters (most thst is) Will follow her lead, like it or not, The only question is, will Hillary help or hinder. and second, John McCain is no Ronald reagan.
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She will help, but not as many as you think will follow.

McCain may not be RWR, but BO is most certainly not JFK.

One thing to keep in mind about BO. In virtually every state primary, his pre-vote polls and his exit polls have been substantially higher than his actual vote totals. This means that a whole lot of people are lying about voting for him.

It falls back to the ugly specter of race. The NeoLibs may say they are ready for a black President, but quite a few of them are voting otherwise.

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:45 pm

Andylit, I never knew what their tie to New York was. According to her, she is from everywhere.
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Pamela hit it on the head. Big Electoral numbers, a fairly easy win for her. She essentially bought the seat using favors and clout.

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:47 pm

RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Andylit, I never knew what their tie to New York was. According to her, she is from everywhere
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Not true, only where she’s campaigning.

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HOPE, CHANGE, [Insert City Here]

I just got home from Indiana. I went to a farm equipment show, and I was surprised at the number of farmers I talked to who are voting for Obama. Most did not see the relation to wright.

Andylit
In any event this will be a telling election, Do the Clintons have any clout left, Is the war really important, This should be good.

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm

Andylit
In any event this will be a telling election, Do the Clintons have any clout left, Is the war really important, This should be good.
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Do they have clout left? Yes. Enough? Only if BO continues to expose himself.

The war? It is only important when the MSM decides it is.

Comment by David Shed
May 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
When there are so many real issues that need addressing, I am tired of hearing cliques and sound bites. Hows this one for you…Who would vote on the old grey mare?

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Ah poor baby David, is your world a little fuzzy today…

Hillary has addressed every issue and has spoken about her solutions to these issues you cranky David are just not listening… We only hear what we want to hear and what she is saying does not fit into your left side of the brain… But you can ask Rev. Wright about issues, he has a lot of answers for you….

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:52 pm

I just got home from Indiana. I went to a farm equipment show, and I was surprised at the number of farmers I talked to who are voting for Obama. Most did not see the relation to wright.
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Fortunately, the number of farmers is small and getting smaller

It makes a certain amount of sense. The Slick team never held much appeal for the rural Dems.

Comment by An American in Canada
May 1st, 2008 at 10:57 pm

Hillary has addressed every issue and has spoken about her solutions to these issues
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Very true. She hasn’t presented anything that will work, but she has addressed them.

Mike the war will be extremely important in the general election, when everyone turns on McCain.

Andylit
This has to be a hard time for Hillary, she’s probably thinking what do I do, If she campaigns hard for Obama and he wins, she’s lost any hope of running again (maybe) if he loses, It will be a talking point of her demacratic opponent in the primary in 2012. Man she’s in a tough spot.

Comment by Pamela
May 1st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination it will be very interesting to see how she conducts herself then.
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She will tell all her supporters to get behind Obama for his bid for the White House which he will never win, because most of her supporters hate Obama and his Marxist ways and his anti-America mentors etc.etc.etc….

BETTER MCCAIN THAN OBAMA

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 11:01 pm

Andylit
This has to be a hard time for Hillary, she’s probably thinking what do I do, If she campaigns hard for Obama and he wins, she’s lost any hope of running again (maybe) if he loses, It will be a talking point of her demacratic opponent in the primary in 2012. Man she’s in a tough spot.
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Not at all.

If he loses and she is seen to drag her heels, she will not get the nod in 2012.

If she campaigns hard and he loses, she is in for 2012.

If he wins, she is SOL.

She has only one chance, and that involves her busting tail on his behalf. Please keep in mind, she very likely does beleive he is unelectable. So, her efforts won’t hurt her and will help her in the eyes of the party.

If Obama loses, we will have to go through this sh@t again in four years.

RC MO.
The demacratic statagists have already said that there stategy will be to make it when you say McCain all you’ll think of is bush. That will be a good stategy. might even work.

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 11:00 pm

Mike the war will be extremely important in the general election, when everyone turns on McCain.
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I have to disagree. The Dems and the MSM totally invested themselves into losing in Iraq. They had spent the better part of 2 years trying to ram that down our throats.

Now, the surge is most certainly working. US casualties are way down, and Iraqi casualties are even lower. The last thing they want to do is create the opening for McCain to exploit.

And, they know they are going to get slaughtered by the 527’s over the conduct of Reid, Pelosi, Durbin, etc.

Comment by An American in Canada
May 1st, 2008 at 10:57 pm

Hillary has addressed every issue and has spoken about her solutions to these issues
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Very true. She hasn’t presented anything that will work, but she has addressed them.

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That is according to your evaluation, but they are certainly good enough that the Obama campaign has copies and shadowed every direction that Clinton has taken…

Their whole premise is to show the American public that their is not significant difference in their policy, except you see Obama is prettier and he is softer,(that is if you like that type)

If they give Obama the nomination I will throw up for three days, and I am not even bulimic. LOL

Her ego might make her walk off into the ocean, never to be seen again.

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Her ego might make her walk off into the ocean, never to be seen again.
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One can only hope.

Andylit, so you don`t think the Dems will try to make it appear like McCain loves war?

Hillary 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Mike, I don`t wish for any misfortune to any of them, but if it is their choice, oh well.

If Obama gets the nomination, I will definitely keep in mind that my vote did not count in Florida because he blocked the vote here and for that reason it will not count in November either because I will not vote.I will also keep in mind how the media treated Hillary especially MSNBC and CNN. So, I hope nobody from his campaign calls my house because I will simply say that this typical white girl is not going to cast her vote for him.

Comment by An American in Canada
May 1st, 2008 at 11:09 pm

Comment by An American in Canada
May 1st, 2008 at 10:57 pm

Hillary has addressed every issue and has spoken about her solutions to these issues
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Very true. She hasn’t presented anything that will work, but she has addressed them.

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That is according to your evaluation, but they are certainly good enough that the Obama campaign has copies and shadowed every direction that Clinton has taken…

Their whole premise is to show the American public that their is not significant difference in their policy, except you see Obama is prettier and he is softer,(that is if you like that type)

If they give Obama the nomination I will throw up for three days, and I am not even bulimic. LOL
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I have a friend who claims to be half bulimic. He’ll eat it, but he ain’t giving it up.

BO’s entire strategy has been to present himself as something beyond the ordinary politician. He has tried to paint himself as not corrupt, not beholden to special interests, above the usual slime pit. A man of principal, honesty and convictions.

It worked in the beginning, but it is unraveling. The Wright fiasco is a part of it. As the dust settle and people look at the facts, they see that nothing at all had changed to merit throwing the Rev under the bus. Except the poll numbers.

As the election moves forward, so does the Rezco trial. And so do the revelations as to the depth of his relationship with the Chicago Machine bag man.

Andylit
You know what I find funny, this crap about Obama being prettier, Didn’t this come out of the Hillary camp a few days ago. Now everybody is regergiating it. news flash for Hillary supporters, Obamas’ winning because he was more appealing, less baggage, and he didn’t start out with half the country not liking him, not because he’s pretty.

Bella in Florida, You are not going to vote at all, or you are not voting for a Democrat?

Hillary 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will not vote for Obama. The DNC is more corrupt than I thought. I feel like this is Russia, where the people don’t matter.

I did not vote in 2004 because I didn’t like either candidate, but I like McCain, so I will vote for him.

I will leave the DNC if they try to end this primary with the super-delegates, or as I refer to them…
the stupid-delegates.

Bella in Florida
I’d like to ask you an honest question. What if Hillary is campaigning for him and she called your house personally asking you to vote demacrat for the good of her party. what do you do then.

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 11:15 pm

Andylit, so you don`t think the Dems will try to make it appear like McCain loves war?
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Some will try. MoveOn will grasp at it.

They will have a hard time painting that picture. How do you condemn a man tortured for 5 years who in turn speaks out against waterboarding?

The kooks at VVJAM, led by Sampley, will undoubtedly spearhead the traitor garbage.

But, I suspect they are going to have a hard time getting any traction outside the loony left who already think any Republican is a genetic warmonger.

McCain wanted the surge 18 months before the Admin did it, and he was vocal about it.

Comment by Mike
May 1st, 2008 at 11:22 pm

Andylit
You know what I find funny, this crap about Obama being prettier, Didn’t this come out of the Hillary camp a few days ago. Now everybody is regergiating it. news flash for Hillary supporters, Obamas’ winning because he was more appealing, less baggage, and he didn’t start out with half the country not liking him, not because he’s pretty.
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I don’t know if the Banshee camp hit it, but it has been said all along.

What you say is mostly correct. However, part of it is because he’s pretty. He has IT. JFK had IT. Slick Willie had a twisted version of IT.

All you need to do is look at those college rallies. Half the girls are screaming and swooning like he’s a rock star.

May 1st, 2008 9:21 pm ET

TO ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS:
Since the media is refusing to reveal/report the Paul vs Clinton fraud case in court right now, we need to create our own movement and flood every blog on CNN and every blogging website on the World Wide Web with information from the case regardless of what the topic is. For those that don’t know - Google Paul vs Clinton and hold on to your shirt with what you read!!
For those of you who think this case has been thrown out or is irrelevant:

“In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25, 2008 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!.” (paulvclinton.com)

Here is the kicker - the judge is a Bill Clinton appointee!

OBAMANACS UNITE!!! LET’S DO THIS!!

Comment by RC MO.
May 1st, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Mike, I don`t wish for any misfortune to any of them, but if it is their choice, oh well.
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Well I wouldn’t wish it on her either. She’s probably a decent person with good intentions, but like her husband just a lot of poor execution. and then the blame game will start all over again.