I say leave the add up and the ad about how Obama is soft on gangs is a good one people need to see this stuff about Obama he is a joke and a lier now he will go to N.C and play the black candidate
to the black community and the uniter to the white community when he is really the divider

Back in the early 90’s someone coined the name ‘Manchurian Candidate’ for John McCain due to his tendency to help the opposing side. Here we see yet another example where McCain is reaching out to liberals while simultaneously opposing the GOP leadership. He could have done this quietly by contacting the GOP in N. Carolina, without a public announcement.

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If McCain cannot persuade the North Carolina Republican party not to run an ad for his campaign that he disapproves of, how does he have a prayer of exhibiting the leaderships it takes to run the country?

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Regarding this controversy about the recent “negative” Extreme GOP ad. It’s absolutely priceless. I think the Hillary camp ought to send the North Carolina GOP a thank you, or at the least make a contribution.

Obama has been making cheap and sleezy attacks on McCain for WEEKS. What about Obama’s distortion of McCain’s 100 years comment and economic pain comment? McCain shouldn’t waste his time defending Obama.

Just great! McCain, trying to be a perfect gentleman, asks the NC Republican Party to pull the ad. The NC Republican Party officials refuse, which they have a right to do. Obama is now attacking McCain as a hypocrite, saying if McCain really wanted the ad down, McCain could force the NC Republicans to take it down.

Obama knows perfectly well that state party officials are independent of the national party organization. Obama knows perfectly well that McCain can’t force the NC Republicans to take the ad down. Obama is just lying to try to score points against McCain.

So McCain tried to be a gentleman and focus on the issues and Obama responded by deliberately misleading the public and by using standard attack/slander politics. And Obama came out ahead in the exchange. Obama made McCain look like a wimpy hypocrit.

If McCain doesn’t toughen up, Obama will roll right over him. And maybe Obama will even deserve to win. Somebody please go explain politics to Mr. McCain before it’s too late!!!!!

Cathy,

What a perfect place for McCain to be…above the fray. Let Obama keep bad-mouthing! Brilliant!

the add will keep running anyway….

Personally, I applaud Senator McCain’s efforts in dealing with this situation! He’s asked them to pull the ad and the NC GOP leadership refuses, so he ratchets up a bit and asks the NC VOTERS to address the issue with THEIR local leadership. It IS too early to talk about threats if the issue can be resolved at the lowest possible level. Thank God we’ve haven’t reached Howard Dean’s vision of America where a PRESUMPTIVE nominee DICTATES with a royal decree. Instead of the typical “knee-jerk reaction” employed by the DNC and its head Howard Dean (compare the “big hammer” approach in FL and MI to the more reasoned RNC penalties for moving party primaries early), Senator McCain takes a more balanced stance of dialogue and discussion. Which style of leadership do YOU prefer America?

McCain loses either way.

If he succeeds in getting Rev. Wright declared “off limits” he helps Obama AND hurts the NC Republican gubernatorial candidates who want the ad to run. Thanks for the coattails, Mac.

If he doesn’t succeed, then the Dems will attack him for “lack of leadership.” Obama AND Howard Dean have already been on tv saying that McCain’s “failure” to get the ad pulled shows a “lack of leadership.”

McCain needs to stop picking unnecessary fights with members of his own party and go after the Democrats. Nobody asked McCain to approve the ad or endorse the ad. All McCain ever needed to say was, “I don’t approve the ad but I don’t have the authority to tell state and local officials what kind of ads to run. I’m not going to overstep my bounds.”

On the other hand, McCain knows ” G D America” is burned into everyone’s brains..no need to use Rev for EVERY contest, makes it less effective when the 527’s use it in the fall. McCain can not tell 527’s to stop…WHO listens to Howard Dean?…he is as inept as they come when it comes to leadership, look at Florida and Mich. Now will “stong-arm” the supers in June to decide the Dem’s fate. Will nominate an unelectable left-as-they-come liberal. No one respects what Howie has to say.

Comment by Cathy
April 24th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

All McCain ever needed to say was, “I don’t approve the ad but I don’t have the authority to tell state and local officials what kind of ads to run. I’m not going to overstep my bounds.”
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Actually, the lead paragraph in this acrticle said basically that , so I’m guessing you’re in total agreement with him. Sadly, the DNC and even some candidates will try to make s “straw man” issue of this to pummel him. I don’t think this is a no-win situation for Senator McCain, but allows him the opportunity to contrast HIS style of leadership (negotiation and discussion) to that evidenced by the liberal approach to dictate solutions rather than achieving concensus on an issue.

I do not know what has happened to the republican party, but they are getting bullied from left wing nuts. Years ago, President Bush should have taken them to the mat publically. Where’s the fight. All the libs do is tell lies after lies and distort the truth to “complete their agenda”. Come on Big Mac, put it to them now.

There are times when he will take them to the mat…this is not the issue to do that with. I like his style. He, in my view, does not appear weak…it take a stong individual to show respect, while being disrespected.

Cathy

I don’t think the dem’s can pin lack of leadership on him per your contention. By doing so, they would be equating leadership with sanctioning of these types of ads. Additionally, it does not matter, the Wright issue will be here to stay for the rest of the election cycle.

By making his comments, McCain has sent a subtle message that he is the one that can unify this country.

well said bigtex, I agree.

Rod

The GOP will not disappoint. I t would be very unwise to go on offensive with the dems at this point. Why waste ammo and resources now. McCain is getting to fund-raise and build the bank.
Blasting the dems while they are fighting would most likely cause them to unite. Wait and go after the last one standing.

Rev. Wrights back! They played part of the interview on MSMBC and it looks really bad for Obama.

bk

it’s on every channel. Rev. Wright, the gift that keeps giving

bigtex

I love it!

I hope you guys are right. I really really want McCain to win. I don’t think either Dem is qualified to be president. And I get a knot in my stomach when I see some kind of fight developing between McCain and the North Carolina Republican Party.

It was good for him to weigh-in on the issue of using Wright as an association of an association to help the local GOP. It won’t be effective in NC anyway! It really only holds weight on a national level with BO. If he is the nominee, the country will need to be reminded at that time of his lack of judgement and honesty as it relates to Wright.

Now the new stuff….priceless!

Cathy

I’m with you. keep the faith.

I think even Chris Mathews and Tucker Carlson are starting to have second thoughts about Obama. What a shock!

bk

Am i mistaken, or did Chris Tingle express doubts about Obama?

bigtex

Yes he did!

Poor Chris, he’s going to need a shrink.

the tingle is gone….shame

Obama took the day off so he can figure out what he is going to do now. He can’t avoid the press forever. Alot of people have been saying for over 6 months that you don’t sit in a church for 20 years and not believe in whats going on.

Read that Obama has agreed to sit down with Chris Wallace on Fox news Sunday

I think its funny. Dems just point fingers. They have no real agenda accept to undermine anything thats not democrat. Since you guys have taking congress you have spent time mainly busting athletes using steroids. What a legacy. Wheres all the great proposals that should have been brought up. All the things you pretend to care about in this race. Economy, schools, jobs, the wars, Iran, North Korea, Syria. All of these things you have had time to fix or at least work on, but no lets get the baseball players. Great leadership. If you think it will get better with an extremist like Obama or life long politicians like the Clintons in the White House. I think everyone should really look at there bottom line. California has been under democrat control in there legislature for decades. We have one of the best economies in the USA. We pay tons of money in taxes, and we are one the worst fiscal states. Yet The Dems have set up thousands of boards and commitees to put in most cases relatives and friends on high paying jobs with minimal meetings or a real purpose. Thank you to Mr Arnold that has finally started to get better. Democrats don’t support big government? They created it!!! Democrats=Failure

bk, bigtex,
Chris does not come on in Ca for another 1/2 hour, is it a new interview?

John McCain reminds me of that elderly man you always see in the videos who thought his car was in reverse before he plowed through the front of the supermarket.

JOHN McCAIN IS OLD–VERY, VERY OLD

sp

it will be on this coming Sunday

I’m talking about Chris (tingle)Mathews…won’t miss Wallace either.

sp

They are playing sound bites. The real interview aires Friday night. I think they said at 9pm.

sp

the comments about tingle were from todays show

todays show on in 20 min… oh what fun. thanks

bk

The sound bite I heard with the Moyers interview, the good Rev. called Obama a “politician”

did the Rev throw Obama under the bus?

What a joke. I guess McCain wants only the Dems to have these attack ads. Wait till they start their hate machine against McCain. Then lets see if he remains a gentleman about it. By the way, talk about leadership, has Dean stopped the negative ads between Clinton and Obama. Now there is a man showing his leadership abilities.

bigtex,

You heard right and he did throw him under the bus. MSMBC said this is not going to help Obama at all.

Yea like he really wants the add gone, smart move on his part though, he gets the add across america now instead of just NC, so people see about obama plus he makes himself look like the good hearted guy who doesnt want to stir the pot. smart move

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Mo, the NC GOP should not need to use an association of an association to win an election…won’t be effective. See bigtex comments 5:55pm. I think McCain is brilliant.

bigtex

Did I get the day of the interview wrong. I thought Chris Mathews said this Friday?

bk

I missed that part. sorry Wallace will be on Sunday. Not sure when Moyers will be

JD good point…(anxiously awaiting more nuggets from the Rev on MSNBC)

Olbermann is giving Mathews a reach around as we speak to console him.

I’m sure Larry Sinclair could console them

omgoodness, bigtex, bk…you didn’t tell me that I have to sit through the “race issue reminder” and “their ganging up on him” first!

gosh, Mathews really is disillusioned.

If John McCain has no influence on members of his own party, how do we expect him to have influence over other world leaders. Is he spineless probably so. What makes this ad particularly offensive is that it involves smearing two people who have endorsed Obama. Is this the message of the Republican Party. McCarthyism. ?

now their dicussing his wimpiness…hee hee, “learn from Hillary fight” ha ha ha

Ron

The DNC and the state and local parties will do the same thing.
Standard on the down-ticket races.

Ron, most don’t see this move as spineless, it was brilliant. “Keep it going”, or “stay out of my fight”, either way he wins the role of UNITER.

not just words, actions.

sp and bigtex,

I guess Obama will have to denouse and reject and try to make him go away. I don’t think it will work. Its too late.

McCain’s mistake was in even TRYING to get the NC people to cancel the ad. He should have just condemned it and moved on. Here’s Elizabeth Dole’s response, which is a smarter response I think.

Dole said in an interview that she didn’t want to get involved.

“I am concentrating on getting my work done here in the Senate, and I’m just not going to get into refereeing a third-party political ad that has nothing to do with my race,” she said.

Of course, McCain can’t really say that ads linking Obama and Wright have nothing to do with his race for president. So maybe McCain didn’t have the Dole option.

John McCain looks like a GREETER at Wal-mart

Bk, you are right, it is much too late. Much more news to come from the Rev too, he has a huge ego to protect! What a gift.

edfeeney,

That was a good one!LOL

sp
It couldn’t have come at a better time.

Unreal.
“Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean is calling on McCain to exercise “real leadership” in getting the ad pulled.”

Hey, Dean- why don’t you worry about getting your ducks in a row before critizing others.
You’ve got two candidates going at each other, super-dels not knowing what to do, and $40 million dollars worth of negative ads coming out against McCain.
Hurts doesn’t it?????

why should the north carolina gop pull an ad that is perfectly legitimate and factually based? the obama people continue to act like a sniveling bnch of kids.abc news asks him some tough questions and they cry foul,now the nc gop runs ads that are completely legit and factual and they cry foul again. and all the while,john mccain continues to try and be PC and pander to the left it seems!

Cathy, again, I think it was a genious move. He has no say over NC GOP and he knows it. BO is his opponent not the locals, and he stays above the fray…very presidential.

howard dean couldn’t find south from the north pole

I wish Howard Dean would just shut up! The ads need to run and let everyone know how good Obama’s judgement really is.

Since when is Howie the authority on leadership? ha ha ha ha…

Edd Morton,

JM knows they won’t stop running it. Brilliant! It’s all over the news again today, just in time for new comments from the pastor man in an interview this week. … JM is a gentleman who is pure genoius.

bk, the obamabots don’t care about his judgement. I think the rest of us are getting a clearer picture and it will be crystal by Nov. Thanks in part to his “mentor, pastor, uncle” who can not be quiet!

bk, bigtex…the interview is 9pm eastern on PBS w/ Bill Moyer.

sp

thanks

sp

It looks like some of the Obamabots are starting to wake up. Some of them fell off the wagon in PA. I think alot of them have so much money invested they hate to admit they are wrong.

It’s funny to hear Mathews call Hillary the Norma Ray of Penn. Hillarious! Weren’t they ready to take her off life support last week?

Chris Mathews also said she was a first rate politition. I thought I was hearing wrong. I think the tide is turning.

Who was it that said: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”. What American said that?

bk, I think the lefties will continue no matter what to push their agenda. But the truly deceived, I believe you are right…they are feeling buyer’s remorse.

It seems “Tingle” is trying to coach BO on his campaign via the boob tube…”just do like Hillary”…so sad, so desperate, so pathetic

Now, the question of the NC debate…will Barry come out and play again?

I have just decided to sit out the upcoming Nov election. I cant vote for this man. He appeases when he should stand up and fight. the Dem’s have succeded in suckering him and the rest of the so called “Republican leadership” into apologizing at every turn. Mccain is playing right into their hands and will lose the election. i agree with Rod and Cathy. We need to go to the mats. No prisoners. the stakes are too high for our country. If Obama the marxist,racist becomes presidnt kiss your country as you know an love it goodbye.

Howard Dean is such a loser. Do you really think anyone in this country has any respect for you.
You need to go away and be quite.

I have never seen an election where every time someone says something about Obama they get attacked. What the H## is going on?

Obama will never get elected. Clinton supporters will vote for McCain first. There is something very wrong about Obama. I don’t trust him and neither do alot of other people.

sp

CNN just said they don’t think Obama will debate because Clinton is a much better debater. DUH! I wish he would he would lose some more votes.

Obama said he doesn’t want to debate because its the same old thing, ok then have a real debate on 1 issue only, and that issue whould be who has the better chance against McCain, run it like a true debate in old fashion debate format.

It would take 3 obama’s to make 1 rev, wright

You know why?

3 wrongs don’t make a wright?

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Comment by bigtex
April 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
3 wrongs don’t make a wright?
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Close, actually obama is way left

and you know what they say, it takes 3 lefts to make a W(right)

[...] he didn’t want them run, but they helped him anyway, and somehow I doubt his sincerity as I doubt McCain’s. But you can’t really blame them, in this age many candidates believe they must do whatever they [...]

The people who are running this ad are afraid of the realization a black man may be the next president of these united states and the mere thought just scares them out of their britches. They will continue to run these negative ads in a desperate effort to prevent this from happening.

To Salvio, you say the stakes are too high but won’t vote for McCain in november over this stupid issue in April.

What is it with republican voters that when ever i come on a message board they are always saying now they won’t vote for McCain. It is april. chill out.

There are 6 supreme court justices who are going to be retiring. Think about Obama’s record on second amendment rights.

I can’t believe these people are not voting for McCain because of a stupid issue in April. Can’t they at least wait to see who he picks for vice president.

I came across thosuands of messages now saying they won’t vote for McCain over this stupid issue.

No wonder why you have 700,000 republicans voting in pennsylvania and 2.4 million democats.

Republicans have a purity test.

This election is the worst election of my lifetime and it is a shame because McCain is a my favorite candidate and he is getting smeared.

This is just serves as further confirmation that NC republicans are low-life, bottom feeders.

Comment by colts018
April 25th, 2008 at 3:31 am
The people who are running this ad are afraid of the realization a black man may be the next president of these united states and the mere thought just scares them out of their britches. They will continue to run these negative ads in a desperate effort to prevent this from happening
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No one gives a sh-t about the color of his skin, If it were a green man with pink hair that was hanging around a yellow man that spewed lies and hate towards other people not like him, it would be the same thing, why are you being a bater.