Updated: McCain calls Hagee views “nonsense,” takes jab at Obama
New Orleans, LA — Rev. John Hagee’s view that Hurricane Katrina was punishment for the sins of New Orleans residents is “nonsense,” McCain said at least nine times aboard his bus today.
The DNC has been calling on McCain to specifically condemn those remarks for weeks even though the GOP presumptive nominee has previously rebuked other controversial Hagee remarks.
“It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense. I don’t have anything additional to say. It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, I don’t have anything more to say….it’s nonsense. I reject that categorically.”
Hagee endorsed McCain in late February.
*****UPDATED with full exchange from bus. Notice that at the end of his response, McCain gets a shot in on Obama and Wright telling reporters, “I didn’t attend Pastor Hagee’s church for 20 years.”
Q: What is your reaction (to Hagee Katrina comments)?
McCain: It’s nonsense.
Q: Would you withdraw accepting his endorsement?
McCain: It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense. It’s nonsense. I don’t have anything additional to say about that. It’s nonsense.
Q: Do you regret accepting his endorsement?
A: It’s nonsense. I don’t have anything more to say about that. Of course–I apologize for that. It’s nonsense. I reject that categorically and I would point out there’s a lot of people who have endorsed me. They support my views. That does not mean that I support–would I consider repudiating his endorsement? I certainly condemn those parts of his remarks. I continue to appreciate his support for the state of Israel and for many of the good things that he and his church has done. But I repudiate as strongly as possible those remarks and those of the Catholic church as well.
Q: You and your Democratic opponents spend a certain amount of time commenting on surrogates and endorsers, on what they said. Do you think that is in any way interfering with how you’re trying to conduct your campaign?
A: …I didn’t attend Pastor Hagee’s church for 20 years. There’s a great deal of difference in my view between someone who endorses you and other circumstances.
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I love how Fox News has avoided talking about how McCain saught Hagee’s endorsement virulently for months. Where is the outrage?
If a pastor claims disasters on American soil are deserved, it’s only an outrage on Fox when the guy is a black Democrat.
So, when will McCain be rejecting Hagee in general for his hateful views? Certainly, if you can go after a man for having a pastor who makes controversial remarks be only his pastor and not his spiritual advisor, you can go after a man who has a hatemonger working in his campaign.
[...] McCain distances himself from Rev. Hagee’s comments linking Katrina to the city’s plans to host a gay pride [...]
Senator McCain has stood up for his own views, and contrasted them with his supporters’ in the strongest terms.
When Senator Obama did the same, the guilt by insinuation and association just continued.
What’s the difference?
FOX should try to remember its “Fair and Balanced” motto.
Drew,
McCain has not attened the Cornerstone Church pastored by Hagee for over twenty years like Obamer von Wright did.
John McCain never said Hagee was his mentor.
Obamer DID NOT CONDEMN Wright in the strongest terms/words; in fact, not at all, really.
Drew,
The difference is that Obama’s words and actions (votes and bills he authored too) show a great bias toward the “black agenda” preached by Wright.
McCain does not have any words or actions of his own that in any way indicate he thinks God was judging New Orleans and sent Katrina to punish them.
In Obama’s case, the reverend has “informed” Obama’s world view and actions or at least mirrors them (when he is unguardedly speaking and not on a telepromptor his handlers have carefully edited). The same can’t be said of McCain.
Obama is a black with scurulous associations in the black community-Frarkhan, Wright, Black Panthers and others.
McCain doesn’t have any connections to any white supremist groups.
[...] to denounce things Rev. Hagee has said about Hurricane Katrina being punishment from God. I think he’s tired of that line of attack: Rev. John Hagee’s view that Hurricane Katrina was punishment for the sins [...]
All of the candidates have, and will continue to have, supporters who hurt them more than they help. They have no control over what these people say or do. Hagee, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Oprha, and others, often like to give their endorsement to draw attention to theselves, more than the candidates. We can`t take all of these endorsements to serious, because of the hidden motives behind them. Most celebrities have egoes that way eclipse those of the ones they endorse, and they all represent some kind of environmental cause, that needs funding. The more liberal they are, the more money they need. Their endorsements are driven by their own agenda`s. I would guess that Oprah endorsed Obama along racial lines, because her projects don`t need any funding. She has more money than God, or Government. Hagee and Wright, are both radicals, but Wright has a strong, proven relationship to Obama. Hagee is just a nut, who needs to be ignored. McCain does not agree with him, and more important, does not seek his spiritual guidance. We as voters need to take endorsements for what they are. In most cases, not much.
McCain is part of the government that failed to help the people of New Orleans some years ago and now he shows up for nothing more than a photo op. If the US was to have another majior trajety the current republican circus would fall on their faces once again.
mrethiopian, People in New Orleans have known for a hundred years that their city would someday be a washout. When you decide to live ten feet below sea level in hurricain country, you are stupid plain and simple. The Government needs to stop paying for the actions of stupid people. Some places on this earth are not meant to support human life, and New Orleans is one of them.
McCain says is Hagee is full of nonsesne.
Obama says you just have to understand Wright.
McCain is saying he’s full of BS.
Obama is saying well it depend on how the BS smells to you.
Theres the difference.
More importantly McCain knows of Hagee. Obama was mentored by Wright.
McCain doesn’t/didn’t go to Hagees Church and has little to do with him. Obama went to Wrights Church for 20 YEARS and took advice on life from him, lauded him in books, exposed his kids to that trash, etc.
The Left needs to deal with their own house fire instead of rushing out trying to burn down someone elses.
McCain also isn’t “friendly” with people like Ayers/Dohrn two unrepetant anti-American domestic Terrorists.
@ Marcy Harris 5:07pm
“Obama is a black with scurulous associations in the black community-Frarkhan, Wright, Black Panthers and others.”
Could you be more specific in these associations? He’s not a member of the Black Panthers. He’s never done anything that suggests he shares the views of the Black Panthers. He’s rejected and denounced the endorsement from Farrakhan.
He’s voted in favor of the “black agenda?” I don’t even know what that means.
You just sound racist. The fact that you say, “he’s a black,” is very revealing of you and your bias.
Let’s judge people on their words and deeds.
Well Said RC MO
Futhermore, i am upset with McCain today jumping on the blame the Bush administration bandwagon for everything. I remembering sitting there the day before Katrina and screaming at the TV, why aren’t you people leaving??? I realize there are those that couldn’t help themselves but there was alot who could.
And of course there is no fault on the major or governor
Obviously FEMA has major issue but that is a gov’t organization like medicare and social security so messed up is the norm
I realize that McCain is trying to distance himself to play politics but he better be careful because as he is trying to pander to the indepedents and dems he is going to loose the true consertives
PS i don’t know why i bother to type this FOX has yet to post one of mine and the sad thing is CNN has
(cover your ears & say) “LALALALALALALA… I’m not listening… LALALALALALALALA”
Marcy Harris,
The Clintons have the same ties to those people you listed. ALL politicians have some dirty laundry… it FOLLOWS them wherever they go.
None of the candidates are clean when it comes to associating with questionable religious figures. Makes one wonder why they attend church at all.
Obama is a typical black who makes excuses for blacks’ lack of intelligence. He can’t disown Wright because Obama is an oreo who has a serious identity crisis.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t think the US will ever be “ready” for a thug president who brings in all these ghetto friends and hoodrats.
John McCain reminds me of that elderly man you always see on video, who thought his car was in reverse before he ran through the store front of the dry cleaners.
JOHN McCAIN IS OLD–VERY, VERY OLD
impeach Bush
John McCain told the cadets at the Academy how badly the Battle of Gettysburg was handled. He then went on to say, that he even voiced his opinion to Lee about it.
JOHN McCAIN IS OLD–VERY, VERY OLD
There’s a thug President in office now. His “ghetto friends” (as you so un-racially put it) are the corporate elite who don’t give a sh*t about you and your puny little pay check.
It’s your lucky day. Keep voting for them and the country will survive. Grow balls and do some reading you racist.
hagee’s comments are not all that nonsensical.anyone who really knows anything abut the city of new orleans knows that it is america’s “MOGADISHU”..it is the modern sodom,while san fran cissyco is gomorrah! mccain is also off base by continuing to blame the fed government for a slow response to katrina.the biggest problem in the wake of the katrina disaster was a total ineptness and incompetence on the part of city and state officials. and the fools of new orleans turn right around and re elect the same bumbling incompetent fool for mayor again.john mccain continues to kick conservs and pander to the left it seems!
On McCain and his pasor, scary stuff
the Cornerstone Church for weeks,— a megachurch in the Texas Hill Country — The church’s pastor, John Hagee, is one of the most influential evangelical preachers in the country — not because his ministry is so very large (although he claims up to 4.5 million viewers a week for his Sunday sermons) but because of his near-absolute conquest of a very trendy niche in the market: Christian Zionism.
The whole idea behind Christian Zionism is to align America with the nation of Israel so as to “hurry God up” in his efforts to bring about Armageddon. As Hagee tells it, only after Israel is involved in a final showdown involving a satanic army (in most interpretations, a force of Arabs led by Russians) will Christ reappear. On that happy day, Hagee and his True Believers will be whisked up to Heaven by God, while the rest of us nonbelievers are left behind on Earth to suck eggs and generally suffer various tortures
I agree with RC MO
I can’t see where Bush or the Demo congress were to blame for Katrina failures.
Their Mayor, their Governor didnt know at all what to do, they acted like this was something they had never even thought about.
Is that the lamest excuse for government that ever existed???????. The problem has been there for years, finally a big one hit. SURPRISE - what a bunch of idiots. And to think I wrote a big check for those poor people. as did millions of others. I wonder whose pocket that went into. probably not to any unfortunate people. Coiuld we get our money back? They should take full blame for the failures of Katrina. After all it was their fault. When will these libs ever live up to anything. They certainly don’t want to take any blame for Iraq, for Obama for our Sailors dying, for various attacks. According to them everything is Bushes fault - they should be thanking him for not impeaching Clinton who had a chance to
take down Bin Laden. I am one of those who will never forgive Clinton for all his failures. And then we want a Barack Huseein Obama who loves terrorists to lead our country. No thank you….
Ari, He is not McCains pastor. Just because your boy Obama is tied to Black Liberation Theology, is no reason to try to make people think McCain is in bed with this quack.
Sorry meant to Bin Ladin not obama
Marcy Harris: The difference is that Obama’s words and actions (votes and bills he authored too) show a great bias toward the “black agenda” preached by Wright.
What can someone say about comments like that except, “It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense. I don’t have anything additional to say. It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, I don’t have anything more to say….it’s nonsense. I reject that categorically.”
Some of you people are really paranoid. Are you so afraid of your position in life that you have to cower in fear of the Black Man coming to do you harm?
I mean just listen to yourselves talk–a presidential candidate of a major political party, with all the scrutiny that that entails, and you say this person “loves terrorists”? I mean, that’s just nutty as a fruitcake.
Y’all need to take the aluminum foil off the windows and get outside more.
To David
I actually was attacked by a bunch of black men, in Chicago about 15 years ago.
Believe me I will remember that forever.
Rco. I know, but McCain actively sought his endorsement, he knew could get him in hot water.
As for Mr Wright, still think totally out of context, and am not bothered by it,
In his first wide-ranging interview since video clips of his inflammatory sermons were aired, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. defended himself over the controversy, saying that his words were twisted.
Mr. Wright, Senator Barack Obama’s former pastor, gave an interview to Bill Moyers on Wednesday, to air on Driday
“It’s to paint me as something — ‘Something’s wrong with me. There’s nothing wrong with this country … for its policies. We’re perfect. Our hands are free. Our hands have no blood on them,’” he said. “That’s not a failure to communicate. The message that is being communicated by the sound bites is exactly what those pushing those sound bites want to communicate.”
When asked what the people who aired the clips “wanted to communicate,” Mr. Wright said, “I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ. And by the way, guess who goes to his church, hint, hint, hint? That’s what they wanted to communicate.”
Mr. Wright, who has acted as Mr. Obama’s spiritual mentor and retired in February as pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, said that he has never heard Mr. Obama repeat any of his controversial statements.
“Absolutely not,” Mr. Wright said. “I don’t talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.”
Ari, If Obama is indeed a true Christian, why does he believe in Evolution, and Abortion?
The four youngest McCain children are Baptists. Still, McCain maintains his Episcopalianism. Thats fine, but think the essence is be baptised otherwise you are just a visitor. Anyway, not that much in religion. Am just ‘confused’ on his stand on major issues-immigration, abortion, gun-control, tax-cut. When one likes a candidate its for the person and what he stands for, but this has changed 180 degrees in a matter of months, so whats left is a constructed policy that he might or might not believe in, and thats a big problem for the ‘product’ you want to sell.
ari
Has Obama made you less conused by his lack of taking a stance in the senate on issues that he merely votes “present” on? How many opportunities has he passed on even voting for? He either lacks the judgement needed to make a decision, or is afraid to take a stance for fear of having to correct himself later on. Wasn’t he elected to represent the people who elected him? How does he get away with just being “present”? It must be nice to just be “present” at a job and get paid. Most people actually need to work in order to get paid.
Barry you are wrong
But now even his record has become irrelevant, since to become the front runner McCain has jettisoned many of his past positions. The Bush tax cuts: McCain voted against them as a senator, but now says he would make them permanent as president. Immigration: he cosponsored a bill in 2005 to make it easier for those in the country illegally to become citizens, but now says that if his own bill—his own bill!—came to a vote on the Senate floor, he would vote against it. After Columbine, he called for more gun control; after Virginia Tech, he said more gun control was unnecessary.
This is completely at odds with the patented McCain persona, the alleged guy who speaks his mind without fear or favor. His notorious irascibility is often mistaken for principled candor, but experience teaches that McCain’s principles remain consistent now only when they appear to lead to the West Wing. Sadly, no one understands better the personal cost of such pandering. In 2000 he was asked about the Confederate battle flag, which flew from the capitol dome in South Carolina. McCain first called it a “symbol of racism and slavery,” then backed off with a “clarification” that described it as a “symbol of heritage.” Later he admitted, “I feared that if I answered honestly, I could not win the South Carolina primary. So I chose to compromise my principles.”
http://www.newsweek.com/id/132860/page/2
And wasn”t Kerry attacked because he was a flip-flopper??
Ari,
You seem to have abandoned your earlier stance that you were not endorsing a canddate.
Sounds like you are rooting for BO.
Understand it politics and pandering to the more conservative base, and hopefully in the proces he is getting some votes of independents who have a memory lapse. Still hasn’t answered the question: is McCain another pawn like Bush was, or what will his policy actually be, since have no clue about his principles (except foreign policy)
“One of our most sacred rights as Americans is the right to make our voice heard at the polls,” said Obama. “But too often, we hear reports of mysterious phone calls and mailers arriving just days before an election that seek to mislead and threaten voters to keep them from the polls. And those who engage in these deceptive and underhanded campaign tactics usually target voters living in minority or low-income neighborhoods. This legislation would ensure that for the first time, these incidents are fully investigated and that those found guilty are punished.”
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FLA MI
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KQsfWJL_oc
Comment by ari
April 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
This is completely at odds with the patented McCain persona, the alleged guy who speaks his mind without fear or favor. His notorious irascibility is often mistaken for principled candor, but experience teaches that McCain’s principles remain consistent now only when they appear to lead to the West Wing. Sadly, no one understands better the personal cost of such pandering. In 2000 he was asked about the Confederate battle flag, which flew from the capitol dome in South Carolina. McCain first called it a “symbol of racism and slavery,” then backed off with a “clarification” that described it as a “symbol of heritage.” Later he admitted, “I feared that if I answered honestly, I could not win the South Carolina primary. So I chose to compromise my principles.”
http://www.newsweek.com/id/132860/page/2
And wasn”t Kerry attacked because he was a flip-flopper??
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Too bad you aren’t able to see the positive in this.
It is a very rare thing to see politicians on either side of the aisle admit they were wrong. Rarer still for them to admit that they had made a serious error in judgment and principal in pursuit of political gain.
Its still what 6 or 7 months to election, even financial times gave a good review of Obama, compared to her I think he is outstanding on every department. The other contest hasnt yet began in full. Now McCain wants to look statesmanlike, and not lower himself to cheap attacks, wonder how long that will last.
Hagee is essentially saying “G-d D-mn America,” only in the past tense. McCain calls Hagee’s view of God nonsense, yet he actively sought his endorsement and support, even though he knew about these “nonsense” views. McCain has made a big deal out of Obama’s minister praising Louis Farrakhan (not Obama himself, mind you), yet he himself has publicly praised Hagee the nonsense-spewer.
Walks like hypocrisy, and quacks like hypocrisy.
[...] In an interview with Fox News he called the pastor’s remarks “nonsense, nonsense, nonsense.” Q: What is your reaction (to Hagee Katrina [...]
Comment by ari
April 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Its still what 6 or 7 months to election, even financial times gave a good review of Obama, compared to her I think he is outstanding on every department. The other contest hasnt yet began in full. Now McCain wants to look statesmanlike, and not lower himself to cheap attacks, wonder how long that will last.
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Why would anyone in the US care at all who a UK paper endorses?
Of course, on the subject of foreign endorsements, Hamas has endorsed BO. That MUST be worth something.
Comment by buddhistMonkey
April 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Hagee is essentially saying “G-d D-mn America,” only in the past tense. McCain calls Hagee’s view of God nonsense, yet he actively sought his endorsement and support, even though he knew about these “nonsense” views. McCain has made a big deal out of Obama’s minister praising Louis Farrakhan (not Obama himself, mind you), yet he himself has publicly praised Hagee the nonsense-spewer.
Walks like hypocrisy, and quacks like hypocrisy.
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I don’t recall McCain making any deal at all about Wright, other than repeatedly telling his own people to back off the topic.
To mrethiopian,
“If the US was to have another majior trajety…”
Whoa buddy! You are really showing your intelligence there!
Why don’t you go back to playing your X-box so the grown-ups can talk?
One issue ok, ut major issues, nobody can give me a good answer, only that they trust him doing the right thing. First you have to define what the right thing is, and next if the person agrees with that conclusion. Second that you believe the person tackles a problem in the appropriate fashion
We are talking about a polician here, not a mechanic tryinng to fix a a undefined problem on your vehicle. Good luck, but am noy buying that scenario, too much faith and nott much substance.
You guys should really use spell check or something.
But then, I suppose most of you are the result of the amazing public school system we have in this country.
Sigh…
Comment by ari
April 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
One issue ok, ut major issues, nobody can give me a good answer, only that they trust him doing the right thing. First you have to define what the right thing is, and next if the person agrees with that conclusion. Second that you believe the person tackles a problem in the appropriate fashion
We are talking about a polician here, not a mechanic tryinng to fix a a undefined problem on your vehicle. Good luck, but am noy buying that scenario, too much faith and nott much substance.
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So, by your definition, BO and the Banshee are even worse. At least McCain admits his mistakes and faults. The Dems are so dirty you could grow a lawn on either of them.
You seem to be a nanny state globalist terror apologist, so I suppose you think the Dems will do what you think is right.
Comment by emily
April 24th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
You guys should really use spell check or something.
But then, I suppose most of you are the result of the amazing public school system we have in this country.
Sigh…
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Not even that good. Ari is the product of a fine European education.
It wasn’t an unprovoked endorsement… McCain, knowing this man was a racist, Anti-Semite, Anti-American PIG, he decided to get in touch with him and ASK HIM for his endorsement…
Why would McCain seek out this man for his endorsement?
If Obama went out tomorrow and asked Farrakhan for an endorsement, but at the same time say he disagrees with him on all his controversial stuff, but gets on stage and hugs him and says how much he admires and respects him… Would THAT matter?
Of course it would, because that involves the candidate you hate anyway… McCain does the SAME thing and it is ok to you people..
Hypocrisy all the way…
lap top and lost my glasses. Andy, still no answer. Once in a while going intto the crux of the matter and you go blank. Or wait he has seen the light all of a sudden and actually is a true conservative, and he his very sorry for al the ‘mistakes’ on the issues he made in his long senatorial career, yes right…
Why would McCain look at all the terrible terrible things hagee has said and STILL want go to him and ask for an endorsement?
That is the question here.
Why would McCain WANT the man’s endorsement?
It raises a LOT of questions about McCain…
I know you republican robots don’t think so, but you are so brainwashed you don’t know what the truth is.
Comment by ari
April 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Its still what 6 or 7 months to election, even financial times gave a good review of Obama, compared to her I think he is outstanding on every department. The other contest hasnt yet began in full. Now McCain wants to look statesmanlike, and not lower himself to cheap attacks, wonder how long that will last
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Another good review for Obama
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/us/politics/07obama.html?ei=5090&en=12e0f2ca4a772e5c&ex=1330923600&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1208722237-xdCvXZdCk+3qVx1lN93C2Q
Comment by ari
April 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
lap top and lost my glasses
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They’re on your face!
For those of you who cannot understand, let’s try it again.
Their is a whole lot of difference between someone who has certain points of view and likes someone, rather than someone who has certain points of views and has that person they like attending their spew at the pew for 20 years!
Duh!
Comment by Scott C
April 24th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
It wasn’t an unprovoked endorsement… McCain, knowing this man was a racist, Anti-Semite, Anti-American PIG, he decided to get in touch with him and ASK HIM for his endorsement…
Why would McCain seek out this man for his endorsement?
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“…knowing this man was a racist, Anti-Semite, Anti-American PIG…”
You can demonstrate that McCain was aware of Hagee’s reputation ahead of time? Has McCain admitted this? Has a staffer come forward and outed this info?
I suspect that McCain was not fully aware and had Hagee on list of prominent evangelists to solicit in his bid for the Christian right vote.
He sought out the endorsement, there is something about Hagee that McCain must like…
Is it the Antisemitism or the Anti-catholic stuff?
If he didn’t like Hagee then he wouldn’t have asked for the endorsement, there are PLENTY of other Christian leaders to get the endorsement of who aren’t racist anti American PIGS.
So John McCain was for Hagee before he was against him? Just another McCain flip-flop, aka lie.
“…knowing this man was a racist, Anti-Semite, Anti-American PIG…”
You can demonstrate that McCain was aware of Hagee’s reputation ahead of time? Has McCain admitted this? Has a staffer come forward and outed this info?
I suspect that McCain was not fully aware and had Hagee on list of prominent evangelists to solicit in his bid for the Christian right vote.”
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If he wasn’t aware of the comments beforehand but learned of them later…
WHY DOES HE REFUSE TO REJECT THE ENDORSEMENT????
The right thing for McCain to have done if he TRULY didn’t agree with Hagee was to say “I wasn’t aware of these comments, I have decided I no longer want the endorsement of the Anti-American Pig”
But he didn’t, he stood by Hagee.
Please, you make no case at all Andy…
“For those of you who cannot understand, let’s try it again.
Their is a whole lot of difference between someone who has certain points of view and likes someone, rather than someone who has certain points of views and has that person they like attending their spew at the pew for 20 years!
Duh!”
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If it were Obama getting the endorsement of Farrakhan you wouldn’t be saying that…
Just another double standard.
Comment by ari
April 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
lap top and lost my glasses. Andy, still no answer. Once in a while going intto the crux of the matter and you go blank. Or wait he has seen the light all of a sudden and actually is a true conservative, and he his very sorry for al the ‘mistakes’ on the issues he made in his long senatorial career, yes right…
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Yeah, right. You’ve been semi-literate for as long as you’ve been blogging here.
You obviously don’t have a clue what the crux of the matter is. And, you obviously don’t listen or read exactly what is said or written.
People’s positions evolve over time. Some more than others. I seem to recall a man named Ronald Wilson Reagan who started his adult life as a liberal Democrat.
I don’t see a lot of shift in McCain’s positions over the last 20 years. You keep trying to make a big deal out of small items. You also make broad sweeping statements with little or no specific content.
Name some issues and we can debate them. If you are just going to sling platitudes around, it is a waste of time.
What’s wrong?
The right wing crazies scared away by some facts and common sense?
There is a video on Youtube that switches back and forth through time to two different interviews with McCain from 2002 to 2007
The 2007 block of video has McCain saying the problem with Iraq is that for SOME REASON American were told that we would be welcomed as liberators and the conflict would likely be over quickly, and that somehow it wouldn’t cost that much… He is basically blaming it on some people wrongly misleading the American people
The 2002 block has McCain saying that we are going to go into Iraq and be welcomed as liberators and the conflict will be over rather quickly and for little cost.
Gee…. I wonder where we go the idea it would be a quick war, that would be cheap and we are welcomed as heroes?
McCain maybe?
Comment by Scott C
April 24th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
“…knowing this man was a racist, Anti-Semite, Anti-American PIG…”
You can demonstrate that McCain was aware of Hagee’s reputation ahead of time? Has McCain admitted this? Has a staffer come forward and outed this info?
I suspect that McCain was not fully aware and had Hagee on list of prominent evangelists to solicit in his bid for the Christian right vote.”
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If he wasn’t aware of the comments beforehand but learned of them later…
WHY DOES HE REFUSE TO REJECT THE ENDORSEMENT????
The right thing for McCain to have done if he TRULY didn’t agree with Hagee was to say “I wasn’t aware of these comments, I have decided I no longer want the endorsement of the Anti-American Pig”
But he didn’t, he stood by Hagee.
Please, you make no case at all Andy…
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Of course I made a case, and you can’t prove yours.
As for rejecting the endorsement, I have no idea why. Perhaps sheer stubbornness?
The real meat of the matter is that the Hagee issue will get very little traction in the general. It’s not as if McCain sat in Hagee’s church for…oh…20 years.
Comment by Scott C
April 24th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
There is a video on Youtube that switches back and forth through time to two different interviews with McCain from 2002 to 2007
The 2007 block of video has McCain saying the problem with Iraq is that for SOME REASON American were told that we would be welcomed as liberators and the conflict would likely be over quickly, and that somehow it wouldn’t cost that much… He is basically blaming it on some people wrongly misleading the American people
The 2002 block has McCain saying that we are going to go into Iraq and be welcomed as liberators and the conflict will be over rather quickly and for little cost.
Gee…. I wonder where we go the idea it would be a quick war, that would be cheap and we are welcomed as heroes?
McCain maybe?
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And if you dig a little, you will find hundreds of clips of Democrats saying much the same. The sentiment was almost universal prior to the invasion.
Funny part is that we were welcomed as heroes and liberators. Perhaps you didn’t watch the extensive live footage at the time.
Then, the Bush administration truly screwed the pooch on the occupation, for 4 long years. Now, with the surge, things are getting better and many Iraqi’s are again in favor of our presence.
Andy you really need to get your facts right, this what happened. Carter was visiting Damascus, and journalist asked a question to political advisor.
“We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election.” Why? “He has a vision to change America.”
And if you dig a little, you will find hundreds of clips of Democrats saying much the same. The sentiment was almost universal prior to the invasion.
Funny part is that we were welcomed as heroes and liberators. Perhaps you didn’t watch the extensive live footage at the time.
Then, the Bush administration truly screwed the pooch on the occupation, for 4 long years. Now, with the surge, things are getting better and many Iraqi’s are again in favor of our presence.
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So McCain was or wasn’t LYING in the video???
Oh wait he was, you were just deflecting because you can’t defend McCain’s comments…
typical.