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Clinton To Obama: Stop Whining About Debate

Hillary Clinton says Obama should stop complaining about taking hard questions at Wednesday’s ABC News debate — since he’ll have to face a lot tougher issues if he becomes president.

In an interview with Fox 29 in Philadelphia, Clinton said of her Democratic opponent, “I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked. Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House.”

“I’ve been through, what, 23 of these debates?” she said. “As I recall, I was asked some pretty tough questions in nearly every one of them.”

In North Carolina, Obama echoed critics who said ABC’s moderators were focused on trivial matters — and that they seemed tougher on the Illinois Senator than his New York counterpart. “Last night I think we set a new record because it took us 45 minutes before we even started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people,” he said. “Senator Clinton looked in her element. She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there. Ya know? That’s alright. That’s her right. That’s her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit.”

Clinton’s response: if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. “The special interests are going to be a lot tougher than 90 minutes of questions from two journalists and we need a president who is going to be up there fighting everyday for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are,” she said.

Of course, Clinton’s campaign complained about some of those tough questions after an NBC debate in Philadelphia in October — when Clinton famously seemed to take both sides of the issue when asked whether she supported drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. Aides blamed moderator Tim Russert for unfairly targeting her.

UPDATE - at her second event today in Radnor, PA, Clinton again brought up Obama’s debate complaint — saying “I know that some of my opponent’s supporters and my opponent are kind of complaining about the hard questions.” That drew jeers from the crowd. “Having been in the White House for 8 years and seeing what happens in terms of the pressures and the stresses on a president, that was nothing,” she said to applause.

“I’m with Harry Truman on this: if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,” she said. “Just speaking for myself, I am very comfortable in the kitchen, so when the heat goes up that’s ok with me.”

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Comment by blk

Obama had a golden opportunity to answer the questions that are
on the minds of millions of voters.
He was given priceless airtime and had the entire nation as an audience Wednesday night.
Today, he cries foul and has the “audacity” to complain of unfair treatment.

So should Affirmative Action apply to politics as well?

He was visibly uncomfortable, quite unlike how he acts in front of the crowds
of people that are in support of his campaign.

Anyone with a clear conscience could have truthfully answered those questions
with a one sentence reply.
He blew it.
He couldn’t even explain why he doesn’t wear a pin on his lapel without
spinning into another topic.
I am thankful to the moderators, I was beginning to think that the media had
pre-ordained Obama.

Somebody needs to tell the Obama supporters that it’s OK for them to change their
minds, the rest of the nation will understand.

 
Comment by Ed in OK

Wow….. I’ve seen evertything.

 
Comment by Stephen

Poor Baby OBAMA.

The only adults who are running for President are Clinton and McCain.

OBAMA=BUSH= “This is the first time in my adult life, as a voter, that I am ashamed to be an American!”

 
Comment by Mary

Does anyone know the link to a website that posts Obama’s comments on why he doesn’t salute the flag or the National Anthem? Something about him not “wanting to choose sides”.

 
Comment by John Russell

Obama quote: “Last night I think we set a new record because it took us 45 minutes before we even started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people,”

The questions that were asked during the 1st 45 minutes specifically dealt with question of a person’s INTEGRITY, CORE VALUES/BELIEFS, and PATRIOTISM.

So in Obamas’s simple mind, Integrity, Core Values/Beliefs, and Patriotism do NOT matter to the American people!!!!!!!!

In case you want to know, I would vote for Clinton or McCain any day.

Obama NEVER!

jr

 
Comment by the southern dem

He has not seen anything yet!! Wait until McCain has a go at him….like Truman said “if you can not stand the heat get out of the kitchen”. What a baby!! Seems that Clinton was right…he has been un-fairly treated during previous debates and the left media continues with that “savior” treatment. Well, we now have his number….can not stand the real heat…as we suspected all along. I guess the dem-repub debates in the future are out now??? Obama likely will want to have a copy of all questions in advance….or they may be leaked to him in advanced.

I think Bill O’Reilly and the rest of the nation is still awaiting a first real news conference with Obama and his wife, no holds barred and for as long as it takes. McCain does it all the time on his bus but where is Obama….secluded by his “handlers” away from view. Obama only goes to highly controlled situations where every moment is monitored so he will not shoot himself in the foot….but he has done this several times when he thinks “no one is watching”. He wants to be in the big league now but can not tolerate the heat for his actions/associations/views. The left is showing their true colors….being a baby, if I do not have it my way I will take my marbles and go…

 
Comment by mmem

yes where are all the obamaites now, yes poor poor obama! You all have said it for me. I think he should step aside!

 
Comment by EJ

I counted twenty times that I’ve seen Obama making his speech complaining about the questions, he tries to blame it on Washington, and being very sarcastic in his remarks to the crowd that stood up and yelled even when he hadn’t said anything. He says what America would like to see but not how he would get there.

This was the first time the media was not on his side and they are much more biased against Senator Clinton than ABC was against Obama. They asked the questions WE wanted to hear answered and now he says he won’t have any more debates. I don’t blame him, he gets worse at every one. He’s at his element in front of a Wright crowd saying nothing. That’s where he should stay!!!!

 
Comment by huntingdonpost

Barack Obama stooped to a new low. He gave Hillary Clinton the finger. Plain as day to all except the Democratic National Committee who say he was just scratching his nose. I called the Obama campaign to complain: 1-866-675-2008 and they LAUGHED. They all think it is a great big cut up.

 
Comment by Patricia

Remember Clinton complaining right in the middle of her last debate? “Why do I get all the questions first? Do we need to get him a pillow?” Then her husband chimed in on all the media being so unfair. And then yesterday he said Obama shouldn’t be complaining, his wife doesn’t complain and the media has been after her for 15 months! I regularly flip between three networks. It is easy to see which people on these stations favor whom, the networks themselves aren’t endorsing a certain candidate, but Lou Dobbs is definitely for the Clintons for example.

I don’t think Obama should continue to complain. These issues, although many of them were answered before the debate at the Compassion: Faith and Religion in Politics Forum last Sunday night, and at other one-on-one interviews, will most likely continue to come up. I think he has answered them sufficiently and people are getting tired of them. I didn’t listen to the first part because I had heard all of those answers before.The only thing new was Ayers, but actually Hannity had brought that up a couple times before, who seemed disappointed that he couldn’t make a bigger issue of it.

So, I agree that he should quite complaining about it. It doesn’t do him any good. (It does remind us of over and over of Hillary’s complaints last time though, so it doesn’t do her any good to talk about it either.) **The debate has been shown in tidbits all day and it seems that Obama answered very cautiously. I would imagine that he wants to make sure he doesn’t add undo ammunition for the press by working something wrong again. I know that I like to have the questions given to me ahead of time when I am being intereviewed. It is difficult for some of us to word things easily in front of a camera. At a rally he can have his ideas “ready to go”. That is easier for me also. All speaking will get easier as he gets more experience. He is about the same age as Bill Clinton was when he ran for the presidency, and Obama has been compared to the young Bill Clinton quite often because of his well-organized campaign and enthusiasm.

 
Comment by Jo Anne

I just wrote to the DNC.
Here is a copy:
Ok. So far Obama has had to come forward to explain his relationships and endorsements with Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, now Ayers and Dohrn. let’s not forget the New Black Panthers and Jane Fonda’s endorsement.
Just wait until he has more explaining as the info comes about about his cousin in Kenya. Cousin Odinga had the pleasure of Obama campaigning for him. Dick Morris was Odinga’s campaign manager. Odinga’s co-Presidency as a result of the same kind of racial tension Obama is causing here, turned violent! Sharia law is the concession reached with Odinga for Kenya.
Then of course we have Auchi, Sorros, even Khalidi to consider!
Are you at the DNC going to wake up and connect the dots any time soon.
Read the blogs. All the names I mentioned are already out there.
OBAMA is NOT ELECTABLE.
Bye bye Democrat for President. You blew it by trying to force a previously, I repeat previously unknown down our throats! He will be exposed for “all” his alliances with his Anti American agenda and friends!
With Clinton, you may have had a chance! Now that hope is gone!
Keep the socialist Obama. I will keep the USA over him, you, or any organization who hates this country!
How dare you blatantly try to deceive the American people with your Communist candidate of choice. The audacity is disgusting!
Obama still has dual citizenship with Kenya.
How about a candidate with allegiance to America ONLY???
You knew he would be exposed, yet you let the Party be embarrassed with the Messiah like adoration of a national threat candidate.
GOD BLESS AMERICA! God D**N the DNC!

 
Comment by Jim

Hey Hillary,

Stop whining about the fact that you’ve lost. Go Home Now!!!!!!

 
Comment by Patricia

To: Huntingdonpost

I looked at that. He was not giving the finger. No candidate woud stoop that low in fron of cameras. And to say something you know to be false and spead it around is slander. If you think that, that is one thing, but to spread that around is sick. No, I am not an Obama supporter, but that is a pretty bad accusation.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Jo Anne
April 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am

I just wrote to the DNC.
Here is a copy:
Ok. So far Obama has had to come forward to explain his relationships and endorsements with Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, now Ayers and Dohrn. let’s not forget the New Black Panthers and Jane Fonda’s endorsement.
Just wait until he has more explaining as the info comes about about his cousin in Kenya. Cousin Odinga had the pleasure of Obama campaigning for him. Dick Morris was Odinga’s campaign manager. Odinga’s co-Presidency as a result of the same kind of racial tension Obama is causing here, turned violent! Sharia law is the concession reached with Odinga for Kenya.
Then of course we have Auchi, Sorros, even Khalidi to consider!
Are you at the DNC going to wake up and connect the dots any time soon.
Read the blogs. All the names I mentioned are already out there.
OBAMA is NOT ELECTABLE.
Bye bye Democrat for President. You blew it by trying to force a previously, I repeat previously unknown down our throats! He will be exposed for “all” his alliances with his Anti American agenda and friends!
With Clinton, you may have had a chance! Now that hope is gone!
Keep the socialist Obama. I will keep the USA over him, you, or any organization who hates this country!
How dare you blatantly try to deceive the American people with your Communist candidate of choice. The audacity is disgusting!
Obama still has dual citizenship with Kenya.
How about a candidate with allegiance to America ONLY???
You knew he would be exposed, yet you let the Party be embarrassed with the Messiah like adoration of a national threat candidate.
GOD BLESS AMERICA! God D**N the DNC!
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Jo Anne,

Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. As proof, Obama poll numbers improved after the debate. People don’t care about that stuff. So stop whining about it.

 
Comment by Jo Anne

Patricia.
He was giving her the finger.
If he had an itch, he would have used his fingernail to scratch with. He only touched the tip of his finger to his cheek, repeatedly for affect.

 
Comment by Jo Anne

Jim.
Only the ignorent would not care about these issues.
If you noticed, all the people I mentioned, who are proven associates have the same Anti-American agenda. There is no denying Obama surrounds himself with radicals and those who wish to destroy this country!
Bombers? Jim. C’mon now! The Pentagon? Police stations?
Obama can keep his friends! I’ll keep my country from them.
No more pass for Obama. let’s vette him without the spin attached.
He needs to answer some pretty tough questions. Whining isn’t helping!

 
Comment by John Russell

Jim said:

“Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. As proof, Obama poll numbers improved after the debate. People don’t care about that stuff. So stop whining about it.”

The truth is only the 35% die-hard Democrats don’t care about INTEGRITY, CORE VALUES/BELIEFS, and PATRIOTISM!

These core, die hard Democrats will vote for anyone as long as it is a Democrat.

The key here is that 65% of America is not die hard Democrat Sheepel.

The 65% is made of Independent-minded folks and Reublican’s (conservative and die hard).

The 65% do care about INTEGRITY, CORE VALUES/BELIEFS, and PATRIOTISM.

I hope Obama gets the Democratic primary nomination.

God BLESS America!

jr

 
Comment by Jo Anne

typo,”ignorant”. Sorry.

 
Comment by barbara e

response to

Comment by Patricia
April 18th, 2008 at 11:06 am
To: Huntingdonpost

I looked at that. He was not giving the finger. No candidate woud stoop that low in fron of cameras. And to say something you know to be false and spead it around is slander. If you think that, that is one thing, but to spread that around is sick. No, I am not an Obama supporter, but that is a pretty bad accusation.
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Are you blind. He did and he had a smirk on his face while he was doing it.

 
Comment by Michael in Atlanta

I agree that complaining a debate that has already happened is not in Obama’s interest.

Chalk one up for Hillary. Obama’s complaining does not help his campaign. Obama needs to prepare better.

While I admire Obama for trying to stay above to temptation to bash his opponent character, he needs to show strength. Because, unfortunately, a lot of voters are not as mature as he would like them to be.

But I have faith in the people in the Democratic base that they arise above this level and not behave like conservatives.

John McCain also maintains that he wants to keep his campaign focused on issues rather that personal attacks. This is why he defeated Romney and the rest of the Republican/conservative contenders.

I think an Obama vs McCain quest for the presidency would finally show that politics does not have to be always dirty.

 
Comment by Bill

Obama “If the Republicans come at me, I will come right back at them. You know — I’ll be honest with you … I’ll be honest with you — it’s a little harder to do with a fellow Democrat because you know, I’m trying to, you know, show some restraint.

What a load of bull. He didn’t answer the questions and yes I want to know about people around a person running for the highest office. If he doesn’t like that, well he needs to drop out. This is nothing compared to what the republicans will do.

The debate finally asked questions that concern the general voters, Hillary didn’t hesitate when asked about Bosnia she admitted she was wrong and apologized unlike Obama who whined and would not answer the questions.

The next day Obama became condescending to the voters again wiping his shoulder saying that is all it was to him glad he has no respect for us as voters.

He didn’t like it because he was asked questions he didn’t want to answer he was hounded because he kept avoiding the answers and making speeches.

it was a debate not much unlike the religion one which was also a different kind of debate didn’t see him whining then.

 
Comment by Bill

barbara e,

What are you talking about? Did Obama give Hillary the finger?

 
Comment by Jo Anne

Michael in Atlanta
I think Obama vs. McCain would be a bloodbath for Obama.
Now that the media has actually brought up Ayers, the rest is inevitable!
The Republicans are going to trounce Obama, starting with the subject of Obama’s patriotism.
It may not come from McCain personally, but the rest of them will see to it Obama is exposed for the fraud he is.

 
Comment by Billy Sayles

Obama is in for a rough time. I was in a group last night with some of my anglo friends and they were referring to him as the Anti-Christ

 
Comment by Jim

Jo Anne,

America heard all that stuff that you think is important and they don’t care. You over exaggerate!!! You said that he surrounds himself with radicals. Name one radical on his campaign staff.

 
 
Comment by Bill

Michael in Atlanta,

Are you kidding? the moderators caught Obama in a lie about using personal things against Hillary Obama tried to say they don’t so. the moderator pointed out yes his camp does and Obama was caught

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by John Russell
April 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am

Jim said:

“Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. As proof, Obama poll numbers improved after the debate. People don’t care about that stuff. So stop whining about it.”

The truth is only the 35% die-hard Democrats don’t care about INTEGRITY, CORE VALUES/BELIEFS, and PATRIOTISM!

These core, die hard Democrats will vote for anyone as long as it is a Democrat.

The key here is that 65% of America is not die hard Democrat Sheepel.

The 65% is made of Independent-minded folks and Reublican’s (conservative and die hard).

The 65% do care about INTEGRITY, CORE VALUES/BELIEFS, and PATRIOTISM.

I hope Obama gets the Democratic primary nomination.

God BLESS America!

jr
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The issues that Jo Anne discusses don’t have anything to do with INTEGRITY, CORE VALUES/BELIEFS, and PATRIOTISM. Most Americans, not only Democrats, understand this. It’s only the Limbaugh/Hannity crowd that believes it and they were never going to vote for a Dem anyways.

 
Comment by Jo Anne

Jim.
I don’t know all his staff, however, how about his friends?
Wright, Rezko, Auchi, Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, Khalidi?
Will those do?

 
Comment by Scott919

Jim writes…

Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. <<<

Well point #1 ignorant people have votes too so it’s VERY relevant to the election. Point #2 I would disagree that only ignorant people care about those issues. I would agree that for most people they are not top issues but they do speak to character and judgement and for a voter whose leanings are even between any of the two remaining candidates they will likely come into play. The people that don’t care about those issues are the ultra-liberals who have entrenched themselves in Obama’s camp. To them Obama walks on water (I have even heard his supporters comparing him to Jesus) and no matter what comes out they will never change their minds.

As for the polls…well….depends on which one you look at. According to Rasmussen his numbers have started going down since the debate. I’m not sure about the others since most of them do not track daily and would not have the ability to identify the effect the debate had.

 
Comment by Bill

lol Yes we do go around to the blogs that are not bias, There are people who wish they could take their vote back from obama.

Why didn’t he just answer? Oh that is right he tried to say one was causal until pointed out he had dinners with him. he says how not to judge by people around you and he was quick to jump on Hillary about Bill pardoning two people. AGAIN Bill not Hillary pardon them so he needs to practice what he preaches.

P.S Thnxs Jo Anne

 
Comment by Jo Anne

Jim.
It has everything to do with integrity.
His choice of associates shows his mind-set.
All the folks I mentioned share a hatred for America.
I don’t associate with Anti-Americans and I don’t want my President to either!

 
Comment by Bill

you have to remember in these polls republicans and everyone can vote, re-vote so I don’t know why so many hang on to these polls time and time again they have proved wrong.

People like me don’t vote in polls unless it is in a voting booth!

 
Comment by Jim

Scott919
April 18th, 2008 at 11:27 am

Jim writes…

Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. <<<

Well point #1 ignorant people have votes too so it’s VERY relevant to the election. Point #2 I would disagree that only ignorant people care about those issues. I would agree that for most people they are not top issues but they do speak to character and judgement and for a voter whose leanings are even between any of the two remaining candidates they will likely come into play. The people that don’t care about those issues are the ultra-liberals who have entrenched themselves in Obama’s camp. To them Obama walks on water (I have even heard his supporters comparing him to Jesus) and no matter what comes out they will never change their minds.

As for the polls…well….depends on which one you look at. According to Rasmussen his numbers have started going down since the debate. I’m not sure about the others since most of them do not track daily and would not have the ability to identify the effect the debate had.
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Hey Scott,

His poll numbers have improved. The latest Rasmussen shows Hillary with a 3% lead. This poll was taken after the debate. Before the debate she had a 9% lead. So how can you say that his numbers are going down. I repeat my point that most Americans see all these character attacks as nonsense.

Pennsylvania Dem Primary:
Clinton 47%
Obama 44%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

Obama is also doing better than Hillary against McCain.

 
Comment by Scott919

According to Rasmussen his numbers have started going down since the debate. <<<

Jim, just to follow up he is down 4% since the debate according to Rasmussen from 50% support from registered democrats to 46%.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Jo Anne
April 18th, 2008 at 11:28 am

Jim.
It has everything to do with integrity.
His choice of associates shows his mind-set.
All the folks I mentioned share a hatred for America.
I don’t associate with Anti-Americans and I don’t want my President to either!
_______________________________________________________________
Who in his campaign is anti-American?

 
Comment by John Russell

Scott919 said: “As for the polls…well….depends on which one you look at. According to Rasmussen his numbers have started going down since the debate. I’m not sure about the others since most of them do not track daily and would not have the ability to identify the effect the debate had.”

Do NOT look at polls that compare Obama to Clinton. These are simply the Democrat’s trending one way or another, and even at that there is a significant Undecided that can’t make up their mind until they filter through the multi-million dollar last minute attack ads (which, by the way, Obama has the upper hand due to campaign budget).

They KEY polls to track, if you are into polls, are the ones that track Obama’s trend line with Independent-mined folks. The Independents will make or break this election.

I seem to recal seeing some recent polls that show Obama’s Independent share getting lower.

But, hey, the election is 7 months away which is eternity in the political spectrum.

jr

 
Comment by Judy Bruce

Obama is a whiner. Maybe he has gotten so used to the mainstream media drooling over him that is thinks he is entitled. I’m tired of him looking down his nose at the workers of America. His arrogance is too much to take.
Judy B

 
Comment by Scott919

Jim asks…

His poll numbers have improved. The latest Rasmussen shows Hillary with a 3% lead. This poll was taken after the debate. Before the debate she had a 9% lead. So how can you say that his numbers are going down. <<<

Because you are looking at a single state and not the nation as a whole. Rasmussen does not track Pennsylvania on a daily basis. They have polled the state only three times this month. As such a lot of other variables come into play. They track the Democratic Nomination and the General Election nationally every day and at that point you can look at his daily numbers on the day of the debate and compare them to where they currently stand.

 
Comment by B

The reason these questions keep coming up for Obama is because he never really answers them. Clinton showed her experience in the debate.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Scott919
April 18th, 2008 at 11:32 am

According to Rasmussen his numbers have started going down since the debate. <<<

Jim, just to follow up he is down 4% since the debate according to Rasmussen from 50% support from registered democrats to 46%.
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Actually he is down from 48% to 46% which is within the polls margin of error.

04/16/2008 Obama 48% Hillary 41%
04/18/2008 Obama 46% Hillary 41%

 
Comment by Frodo Baggins

If Hillary Clinton and John McCain were hit by lightning, Obama could not win the general election. Hillary is out already and Ron Paul could stand in and beat the crap out of Barack in Florida and Ohio. Why? Obama made a fatal error when he didn’t realize that while needlessly pumping up his black Base by labeling all that oppose him, including Bill and Hillary Clinton and their supporter as racists, he ceated some lasting animousity. I and several of my co-buddies have been pounding the theme, that Obama will not win Florida because of this for several weeks now. The polls are proving us right. The latest Rasmussen poll for the head to Head contest between John McCain and Barack Obama has McCain ahead by 58% to 38%. A similar Rasmussen Poll in the Ohio Head to Head has McCain leading 47% to 40%.

The Obama camp will only discuss the national polls which varies from poll to poll with Obama leading or losing by 1 or 2 percentage points. Of course this reflects the popular sentiment. I know they understand that the Staes decide the Election so they’re fudging a little. Ironically, he won’t win a single southern state that the Black vote won for him in the primary. Funy thing, we don’t sign on with those that label him a racist. One does not have to be a racist to play the race card for their own advantage.

Bottom line; Don’t come sucking around for our votes in the Florida General Election after labeling us as racists in the Primaries, Will not happen!!!!

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Scott919
April 18th, 2008 at 11:38 am

Jim asks…

His poll numbers have improved. The latest Rasmussen shows Hillary with a 3% lead. This poll was taken after the debate. Before the debate she had a 9% lead. So how can you say that his numbers are going down. <<<

Because you are looking at a single state and not the nation as a whole. Rasmussen does not track Pennsylvania on a daily basis. They have polled the state only three times this month. As such a lot of other variables come into play. They track the Democratic Nomination and the General Election nationally every day and at that point you can look at his daily numbers on the day of the debate and compare them to where they currently stand.
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They took a poll on Monday and Hillary was up by 9%. The most recent poll was Thursday after the debate and her lead dropped to 3%.

 
Comment by Jo Anne

Jim.
Obama and his wife!

 
Comment by Scott919

John Russell writes…

They KEY polls to track, if you are into polls, are the ones that track Obama’s trend line with Independent-mined folks. The Independents will make or break this election.

I seem to recal seeing some recent polls that show Obama’s Independent share getting lower.<<<

Thank you John, I know how to track polls. According to Rasmussen’s numbers for today McCain leads both Obama and Hillary by double digits with unaffiliated voters although they did not get more specific than that

 
Comment by Vonay

Patricia, You’re such a good story teller teller. All you do is bash Hillary an stand up for Obama.

IF you’re for him, say so, amd quit being wimpy about it.

 
Comment by NO to Obama!!

Hillary all the way!!!!!! My friends and I decided that, if Obama wins the nomination and depending on what McCain’s final stand will be on the Iraq war and the economy, we will still put Hillary’s name on the ballot.

 
Comment by Scott919

Jim writes…

They took a poll on Monday and Hillary was up by 9%. The most recent poll was Thursday after the debate and her lead dropped to 3%.<<<

ok let me try to explain this again….You are only looking at Pennsylvania. One state does not speak for the nation and the time gap between Monday and the debate on Wednesday is enough to allow confounding variables to come into play.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Scott919
April 18th, 2008 at 11:41 am

John Russell writes…

They KEY polls to track, if you are into polls, are the ones that track Obama’s trend line with Independent-mined folks. The Independents will make or break this election.

I seem to recal seeing some recent polls that show Obama’s Independent share getting lower.<<<

Thank you John, I know how to track polls. According to Rasmussen’s numbers for today McCain leads both Obama and Hillary by double digits with unaffiliated voters although they did not get more specific than that
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Scott,

You need to understand something about polls taken today regarding the general election. They have absolutely no relevance on what will happen in September. As proof, in June of 1992 Bill Clinton was in 3rd place with 25% of the vote. Ahead of him were Bush with 39% and Perot with 30%. Well guess what happened in November, Bill Clinton won 370 electoral votes. So stop saying today’s general election polls have any relevance.

 
Comment by Vonay

Jim writes…

Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. <<<

Jim, I’m NOT ignorant and I do care if a presdential nominee surrounds himself with anti-americans and racist.

This goes to Obama’s core beliefs about America.

 
 
Comment by Judy Bruce

To answer a comment by Jim:

The voters do care about Obama’s associates. The ultra-liberal Obama supporters might not, but the rest of the voters do. Just wait until November and you will see how much they care. It will be a blood bath!

Judy B.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Scott919
April 18th, 2008 at 11:45 am

Jim writes…

They took a poll on Monday and Hillary was up by 9%. The most recent poll was Thursday after the debate and her lead dropped to 3%.<<<

ok let me try to explain this again….You are only looking at Pennsylvania. One state does not speak for the nation and the time gap between Monday and the debate on Wednesday is enough to allow confounding variables to come into play.
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What variables are you talking about? The biggest variable, which anyone with half a brain will agree on, was the debate!!!!

As for the nation, there is no statistical difference from before and after the debate.

 
Comment by Jean

Hey Hillary supporters have you noticed that when you post a comment about obama that 9 times out of 10 that it gets deleted. I tried to post a comment after the debate and it got deleted. As a matter of fact most of my comments are deleted. I don’t curse in them or any really bad other than I think obama is a bigot. So whats the deal? I do know this I will never vote for obama it has nothing to do with me not really being a true democrat because I am and proud of it. I just want something to be left of America and if obama gets in there He will destroy America and I truly believe. The man is evil I feel that in my heart and soul. All you obama supporter fine vote for him but I know that you will live to regret it.He scares the heck out f me because he produces so many bad vibes. I just don,t understand why any sane person think that he has the best interest of the american people at heart.You are a bunch of morons if you do. Wake up before it’s to late and vote for Hillary she does care about America. Obama is ashamed of his white blood and in his heart he is black no i’m not racist people should be people no one is special we all are. Go Hillary do what you have to do to win because I love america and want to keep her safe.Keep her safe from evil intent and that would be from obama. He wants americe to be at the feet of Africa {OBAMA THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN ]!!!!!!! SO HILLARY PLEASE SAVE US !!!!!!! Jean

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Vonay
April 18th, 2008 at 11:48 am

Jim writes…

Only the ignorant care about the issues you’ve mentioned. They’re not relevant to the election. <<<

Jim, I’m NOT ignorant and I do care if a presdential nominee surrounds himself with anti-americans and racist.

This goes to Obama’s core beliefs about America.
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Vonay,

You are a Hillary supporter and that is why you claim to care. If Hillary had the same associations, you wouldn’t care.

 
Comment by courtcopphil

I cannot believe the number of people who believe that the company a man chooses to keep is unimportant when discussing Presidential candidates. If McCain had a lifelong, friendly relationship with David Dukes, the left wing blogosphere would be up in arms. Yet we have Williams Ayres, who as recently as 2001 said publicly that he wished they had bombed more Government targets and Police Officers is not a matter of concern for these folks……………….either these people are too stupid to draw breath…or they are just dyed in the wool leftists, and will buy any crap shovelled their way if it means getting their destructive socialist agenda rolling.
Socialism doesn’t work………..history is full of examples of it’s failures, yet there are no examples of it’s successes. Why don’t these people get it ?

 
Comment by Michael in Atlanta

Who cares about any Rasmussen Polls. They have proven themselves to be a Fox News agent. This poll information is a skewed as Fox News.

Maybe should have asked Rasmussen about our being greeted as liberators in Iraq.

In this era of “BAD” intelligence, who cares what any poll says.

That would be like believing everything you hear on Fox News or CNN..

 
Comment by Vonay

If Hillary belong to a David Duke Church for 20 years, had friends who were unrepentant U.S. terrorists;

Was endorsed by all the skin heads and white supremist;

and Bill had said America was mean and he was never proud of America….

What would you all be saying?

 
Comment by M Period

Can anyone on this bored name an Illinois politician over the last 15 years with no ties to Wright or Rezcko. You guys are really reading into that waaaaay to much. And I’m sure I have a cousin somewhere that’s done something bad. Americans are being killed in Iraq. Americans are losing their homes. Jobs are leaving this country. We are in the middle of a recession Terrorists are rebuilding bases across the world and are interested in KILLING us. Why are these things less important than who Obama ate dinner with 20 years ago? A year from now, if you or someone you love gets sick and doesn’t have health care, will it really matter where Rev Wright lives or all these other “issues”. The reason the media and most voters dont’ pick up on these stories is because they are more concerned about the future of this country than about silly issues that have NO effect on anything. I don’t care who Obama ate dinner with 20 years ago, you have a right not to support him, but you’ll never win over voters with petty bs.

 
Comment by Jo Anne

If hillary really wants to win the Dem’s nomination, she needs to keep bringing up information on Obama to expose him.
It can only help her.
If she doesn’t, she will lose the nomination and the Republicans will do it anyhow.
Hillary needs to move on it quickly.
For her sake and the little bit of creditability the Dems have left, will be shot!
McCain = God Bless America.
Obama = God D**n America.
I’ll go with the true Patriot EVERY time!

 
Comment by Vonay

Vonay,

You are a Hillary supporter and that is why you claim to care. If Hillary had the same associations, you wouldn’t care.

Just because all you Obama Robots don’t care if your nominee is a anti american, racist; don’t put me in the same category.

If Hillary had done and said all these things she would have been tarred and feathered.

If a WHITE man has said and done thses things he would have been tarred and feathered.

If Obama was a white man he would NEVER have even been running for the nomination.

 
Comment by Vonay

Forgot to put TO JIM in the abone post.

 
Comment by M Period

Bill Clinton lied under oath, was accused multiple times of sexual harrasment and Hillary’s former pastor supports Rev Wright. And i’m sure McCain is endorsed by the KKK. Obama realizes that in a year from now NONE of that will matter so they dont’ make issues out of it. Hillary and McCain are hoping that voters get distrated by silly stuff that they don’t look at policies.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Jo Anne
April 18th, 2008 at 11:56 am

If hillary really wants to win the Dem’s nomination, she needs to keep bringing up information on Obama to expose him.
It can only help her.
If she doesn’t, she will lose the nomination and the Republicans will do it anyhow.
Hillary needs to move on it quickly.
For her sake and the little bit of creditability the Dems have left, will be shot!
McCain = God Bless America.
Obama = God D**n America.
I’ll go with the true Patriot EVERY time!
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Most Americans are intelligent enough to realize that Obama did not say “GD America”. It is only the ignorant who care about that and Hillary supporters.

 
Comment by Neffty

Obama doesn’t have time to stoop to this level of politics. This debate showed me that Hillary is clearly out of the race and is only resorting to low level attacks to try to distract and ruin Obamas chances with McCain.
God can see her lack of integrity whether you people see it or not! Believe me, her days are numbered.

 
Comment by Vonay

M Period.

That’s because Chicago politicians are the most corrupted in the world.

 
Comment by Michael in Atlanta

Where are the Liberal bloggers that voted for John McCain?

All I ever hear from are these bitter conservatives, who are having to settle with McCain as the Republican nominee.

 
Comment by M Period

I’ve asked this before but can someone tell me when Obama has ever, himself, been anti American or racist

 
Comment by DB

M Period,

You are right in saying a year from now none of this will matter as Barack will be out of the picture, but for now it matters a lot as we are trying to determine who the next President of the United States will be.

 
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Comment by M Period

Why do you say Chicago politicians are the most corrupted in the world? I don’t really see any more corruption in Chicago than any where else.

 
Comment by Jim

Comment by Vonay
April 18th, 2008 at 11:59 am

Vonay,

You are a Hillary supporter and that is why you claim to care. If Hillary had the same associations, you wouldn’t care.

Just because all you Obama Robots don’t care if your nominee is a anti american, racist; don’t put me in the same category.

If Hillary had done and said all these things she would have been tarred and feathered.

If a WHITE man has said and done thses things he would have been tarred and feathered.

If Obama was a white man he would NEVER have even been running for the nomination.
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And if Hillary was a man, she would have been eliminated a long time ago. Biden or Dodd or Richardson or Edwards would be in her place as they are all more qualified and better human beings.

 
Comment by Mary

I am a true American and a life long Democrate. I will not in any way vote for Obama if he is the one on the ticket. I will not vote or vote for McCain. I feel that this man at this time is not ready and there is so much that we don’t know about him and at this point I’m not sure if we want to know anymore.