Bayh says superdelegates need to consider Obama remarks
Indianapolis, IN — Indiana Senator Evan Bayh called on Democratic superdelegates and primary voters to consider the potential fallout from Obama’s remarks during the general election, arguing that it provides “fodder” for the GOP.
“I think it’s a real potential political problem and its something for superdelegates and voters to think about,” Bayh told reporters after Clinton’s first speech this morning in Indianapolis. “The far right wing has a very good track record of using things like this relentlessly against our candidate, whether its Al Gore or John Kerry and I’m afraid this is the kind of fodder they might use to really harm him with.”
While he noted that he does not believe that Obama is an “elitist,” he said the remarks can be interpreted that way–putting the IL Democrat on “dangerous ground.”
“(The Republicans are going to say) that we are cultural elitists, that’s what they are going to say about us regardless of who our candidate is. The question is have we given them some hope to hang their hat on to make that argument. These comments… might be that hook that they use,” he said. “There’s this cultural divide that exists…I think it’s an issue the Democratic party is potentially vulnerable on and has to address.”
Bayh is campaigning with Clinton throughout the Hoosier State Saturday.
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Bayth must be on the payroll of the Clinton “lie till you die” machine…anyone that supports the Clintons in the powerful parts of the Dem party either owe them big time for favors or are afraid of them…..the most scandal ridden presidency ever, and Hill was a bigger part of more scandals than Bill….the lies they tell have become a familiar tune, they are into power so much it is scary. Bayth should rethink his vote….it makes him look like a pawn!
The fact of the matter is Obama is too intelligent for many people. These are some of the same people who want to be told that all is FINE, when they have lost jobs and have nothing much apart from their faith and guns to fall back on. People like to be told they are great when in reality, everyone is ordinary like each one of us.
Who knows Obama may end up losing, but Hillary Clinton and McCain both appeal to the lowest and the baset of human emotions. They are the ~REAL~ snake oil sales men, who want to convey to their dutiful flock that all is hunky and dory in the world unlike what Obama says. So voters go to sleep Mamma and Pappa will take care and dont listen to nasty things that Obama says.
I agree that Obama is doomed for be a DIVIDER rather than a Uniter. Howver, I disagree with Bayh’s rationale. Once again, the Democrats are trying to blame someone else (”republicans) for a person’s behavior (Obama’s comments in this case) rather than standing up and taking personal responsibility for one’s actions!
Pathetic!
Obama will win in General elections believe it or not.
For some of the same Elitists, to which people mistakenly have ascribed Obama to be, are in the ranks of Republicans. Not all Republicans are Biblicans. I am sure those republicans would have had a hearty laugh and nodded indeed Obama is correct : For many people not just in America, but all across the world fall back on Religion and guns when jobs desert them…
Wasnt it the Republican NeoCon Mantra of getting prosperity and Democracy to all in Middle East as a way to wean out Islamofascism there?
And for those Republicans who still wont vote for Obama, why this hypocrisy? Are people in Middle East different from people in Midwest? This is gundamental to human nature: to turn to God when hope deserts them. When people lose jobs they turn to God.
Obama is right.
THE COMMENT MR OBAMA MADE ABOUT SMALL TOWN PEOPLE BEING BITTER IS
VERY HURTFULL, AND I FEEL IF YOU READ HIS BOOK YOU WILL SEE WHO IS THE BITTER
ONE ESPECIALLY PAGE 200. ALSO I MYSELF GET UP EVERY DAY AND GO OUT AND
WORK MY TAIL OFF AND MY FAITH IS A BIG PART OF MY LIFE AND MY BOYS DO HUNT
SO MR OBAMA I FEEL WANTS IT BOTH WAYS. HE IS A REAL GOOD POLITCICIAN.
AS FAR AS MRS CLINTON GOES: IF HER AND HER HUSBAND CAN MAKE 109 MILLION
DOLLARS THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE AND MANAGE MONEY. AND I DO NOT CARE
WHAT ANYONE SAYS MEDIA INCLUDED BILL CLINTON WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESIDENT
AND YOU WILL SEE AS HISTORY PLAYS ITSELF OUT. HE BALANCED THE BUDGET AND
WE ALL HAD MONEY IN OUR POCKETS AND NO ONE WAS CRYING THEN.
MRS CLINTON CAME FROM A SMALL TOWN SHE HAD TO WORK FOR HER EDUCATION
AND IT PAID OFF FOR HER. WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH THAT? SHE HAS A PLAN
AND THE EXPERIENCE TO BACK IT UP. WORKING TWENTY YEARS WITH PEOPLE
HAS TO PROVE SOMETHING. LOOK EVERY POLITICIAN LIES I DO NOT CARE WHO
IT IS, ITS WHAT THEY CAN GET DONE ISWHAT MATTERS TO US. MR OBAMA IS TOO
YOUNG YET HE IS NOT SEASONED ENOUGH YET, THE REBUBLICANS ARE JUST
WAITING FOR HIM, THEY ARE GOING DESTROY HIM, WAIT TILL THE SWIFT BOATS
GET HIM. I FEEL HILLARY CAN GO TOE, TO TOE WITH JOHN MCCAIN, CAUSE LOOK
THERE ARE 60 BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT MRS CLINTON, SHE HAS BEEN PUT DOWN,
DEEGRADED, LAUGHED AT, THE MEDIA HAS BASHED HER SO BAD, BUT LOOK
SHE GETS UP DUSTS HERSELF OFF AND KEEPS ON GOING! AND THAT IS WHAT YOU
NEED FOR A PRESIDENT. A FIGHTER FOR US!
Obama is ARROGANT!
He will not win due to his radical comments and radical “friends” - his judgment & background are just far too questionable to be President of the UNITED States.
I think Obamas comments themselves, and Reverand Wrights too for that matter, are to blame for these controversies rather than those responding.
It is painfully obvious the ultra super liberal Obama agenda:
anti-gun ownership
pro-gay
pro-illegal immigration
anti-Isreal
higher taxes (means everyone)
is now being seen for what it is by many who used to support him.
Obama is losing support because he is anti-american.
Obama is less and less electible by the day and if not for the fact that Clinton continues to stumble over her own comments, he’d already be an after thought.
Nevermind Obama having any chance to become President someday because, now, it will never happen; however this guy now needs to recuse himself from his Senate seat and get out of DC once and for all as he is making the entire Democrat party look bad at this point time with his ongoing, blundering…..ignorant comments and speeches. The more this scavenger talks, the more embarassing he is getting.
I tend to agree that he should step down MIG but unfortunately feel he will still win the dmeocratic nomination going up against McCain.
Mr Large And your not bitter Boy did he hit that one right on the noise
maureen which is better to be a little hurt or have washington keep lieing to you
This is one of the first times some one in washington is telling it like it is not telling you what you
want to just to get in to office by the way Bill made 800,000.00 trying to help you lose your jobs
Paul from NY,
Do you seriously believe Barack Obama is telling anyone the truth?
The comment about small town American being bitter is not the BIG Statement..
The one that is most insulting is the insuation that ” We cling to our guns and religion, that we are
anti-immigrants and anti anyone who isn’t like us.”
People don’t seek God or go to church if they are bitter.
Obama doesn’t have a clue.
I think he needs to withdraw from the race for the good of the Dem. party.
THe super delegates had better think before anymore endorse him.
Michelle and Barack Obama are letting their true colors come through. The friends they
choose and the church and pastor they chose show what these two believe.
The comments are not just elitist but unAmerican. The words “cling to guns or religion or antipathy towards people who are not like them” refute the Amendments to the Constitution. Amendment 1: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”; Amendment 2. “..the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Sen. Obama has already shown a propensity to ignore our Constitution by his disregard for the rights of voters to vote. He left his name off the Mi ballot along with Biden, Richardson, Edwards, and Kucinich so that the election there would appear illegitimate if the DNC settled with the state, and he blocked a revote in Fl and Mi who were penalized for moving their primaries whereas OTHER states who did so were NOT penalized. He and his powerful surrogates who include Dean, Pelosi, and Reid, have attempted to force Sen. Clinton to withdraw which would leave voters in 8 states and 2 territories (Pennsylvania Guam, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Pueto Rico, Montana, and South Dakota) with no choice of candidate. Then there are the more ephemeral charges of lacking patriotism: the lapel pins and hand over the heart, etc. Only a fool would run this man against Sen. McCain, a genuine war hero. Nor should anyone overlook the racial connotations of what Sen. Obama said: the areas of PA of which he spoke are predominantly white. He plainly meant that if a Pennsylvanian didn’t want to vote for him it was because they were a stupid racist “typical white person.” I am a lifelong democrat at every level of voting for the past 24 years. I will not vote for Sen. Obama because he tried to take away my right to vote. If he is on the ticket in any capacity I will vote for Sen. McCain. DNC, I will not support a party who attempts to disenfranchise me: you will withdraw your blatant promotion of this candidate or I will withdraw my support for you: on every level.
He won’t withdraw Vonay and the superdelegates will be forced to vote for him knowing if they don’t the black community will walk away from them. The real question is whether Hillary runs as an independent.
“I think it’s a real potential political problem and its something for superdelegates and voters to think about,” Bayh told reporters after Clinton’s first speech this morning in Indianapolis. “The far right wing has a very good track record of using things like this relentlessly against our candidate, whether its Al Gore or John Kerry and I’m afraid this is the kind of fodder they might use to really harm him with.”
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Even, you are so so correct here…..but you failed to mention what the “right wing” would do with Hillary’s flat out right lies.. “relentlessly against our candidate”…yup that might very well describe it.
Pamela,
The problem is both the democratic candidates are awful. Senator Obama problems mount by the day, while Hillary not only has her past to deal with but her continued lies trying to build herself up. What’s worse, is beyond these problems is the far left agenda of both dems whereby they both propose budgets in excess of 750 billion of the current budget and have no way to pay for them. So either they are making false promises or tax America across the board to pay for it.
People in Middle East, as the Republican NeoCon media fails not to remind us, turn to religion and guns because of their economic and political insecurity. Job security is an important part of our outlook in life. This is plain to everyone to see.
The fact of the matter is Obama is too intelligent for many people. These are some of the same people who want to be told that all is FINE, when they have lost jobs and have nothing much apart from their faith and guns to fall back on. People like to be told they are great when in reality, everyone is ordinary like each one of us.
First they called Obama a Muslim terrorist, then a Black revivalist and now a Communist. It just goes on to show how inconvinient the TRUTH appears to be, to so many people in so many ways. To those who have grown so used to lies and hypocrisy dished out to them, by their very own run of the mill politicians, that they simply cannot live without someone telling them how good they are and how everything is fine in this world.
Who knows Obama may end up losing, but Hillary Clinton and McCain both appeal to the lowest and the baset of human emotions. They are the ~REAL~ snake oil sales men, who want to convey to their dutiful flock that all is hunky and dory in the world unlike what Obama says. So voters go to sleep Mamma and Pappa will take care and dont listen to nasty things that Obama says.
JSmith,
Your posts are always good for a laugh. If Obama is such an inteligent guy, why is it he continually puts his foot in his mouth?
Let`s see here. I went to war, and lost my legs from the ass down. That made me a little bitter. Not the war, the no legs part is what sucked the most. I drank to much for a while, and was bitter, because I was a loser. Then I went to The University of Va., and got my Masters in Genetic Developement. I have been running my own farm for thirty years. I market over sixty thousand hogs a year, everything I have is paid for. I have an extensive gun collection, and I hunt every chance I get. I always wondered what made me buy this farm near a small town. I always wondered what made me go out in the cold all day to hunt. Never made much sense, come to think about it. I never knew why I hired those two ( legal mexicans ) last summer to get up hay. I though it was , because all of the young guys around here were helping their fathers. You know, my whole life has been one big mystery, until now. It`s so clear to my now that King Obama has explained it. I`m bitter. I`m bitter. What a dumbass I`ve been. I always though I did these things because that`s how I wanted to live. Man, I sure am glad Obama let me in on this. Now I guess there is no need to cling to that old church anymore. Now that I know I only went there , because I am country, stupid, bitter, and scared, I can sleep late every Sunday. Thank you, Obama. I owe you one.
DB
Hillary may not be the most honest gal in the world, but by golly she is the luckiest.. Obama should shut up.
DB,
I for one have hardly seen him put his foot in the mouth. But its perceptions you know. You see the world differently than I do. For me the only flaw with Obama is that he speaks the TRUTH. And thats a big big no no in Politics.
And you know why? Because people like to be told good things. Because people love to be told how good they are. Because people would prefer to believe in a rosy picture of the world they live in, than a world that is real and ugly. People prefer to believe that they go to church not to pray for hope and better future but they are REALLY God fearing. People prefer to believe that they own guns because of their birth right and not because of some deep seated insecurity inside them. Our reflection in a mirror is ugly but we dont like to see that, and so we prefer those who make us look good.
So truth is a big no no in politics.
So what appears as foot in the mouth for you, appears to me as someone speaking the truth. For once there is someone out there who is not giving us Serotonin boosting artificial speeches. Hillary Clinton is such a big fake. I almost puked the way she described people who lost jobs in PA as people who cannot be bitter. She paints a plastic artificial picture of this world where all the mice and fairiers flutter around her in her polka dotted dress.
Obama 08.
No lies here http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/08/obama_stance_on_iraq_shows_evolving_view/
no lies here http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=obama%27s+campaign+workers+are+paid&fr=slv8-tyc7&SpellState=n-2190593974_q-qecR6SjAuRo8%2FpToOcN3nAAAAA%40%40&u=my.barackobama.com/page/-/HQpress/100707%2520Fact%2520Sheet%2520Energy%2520Speech%2520FINAL.pdf&w=obama%27s+campaign+workers+worker+paid+pay&d=AfWzu_H_QVF5&icp=1&.intl=us
no lies here http://sweetness-light.com/archive/rekzo-scam-raised-for-obamas-senate-run
obama is a unifier , he will bring everyone together
except for Michigan and Florida
except for typical white people
except for small town folks who cling to religion because they are unhappy with their lives
except for small town folks who believe in the 2nd amendment
except for people who honor the rule of law and oppose illegal immigration
ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON
goatboy like to hunt with bitter gun toting religious nut RC MO
RC MO….just sarcasm…no disrespect
JSmith,
Clinton and McCain haven’t tried to keep me from voting. I’m not crazy about either of them, but they’re neither one the cult-leader you describe. For one thing they don’t have the charisma, about the only thing Obama has going for him. The only candidate with a lot of dumba** feel-good rhetoric is your guy. His so-called well-educated supporters are mostly a bunch of dumbf*** rich kids sponging off their parents who, for all their vaunted ability with computer, can’t do a minimum of research on their own candidate. Our education system instituted this apologist leftist mentality into kids, and they’re unfortunately not too bright as a result. That’s why people my age (42) outperform younger people in pretty much every arena: because you’re a bunch of spoon-fed crybabies who can’t live without a cellphone jammed in your [ear].
DB
Do you seriously believe Barack Obama is telling anyone the truth?
Yes I have family in both PA and small towns down south yes there not just bitter they are piised off. Some of the things they can hold on to are there Guns,faith,ect and try to blame evey thing on some thing Know washington not going to help them
One big one is NAFTA Hillary helped get it passed and Her husband made 800.000.00 after it past . And didn’t give a dam if you were losing your job or not. but now says she agast it ( thats becouse that what the people want ot here) (She will do any thing to get the white house back) How can some one who makes 109,000.00.00 still take over 8,000.000.00 in after office bennys from the hard working tax payer. knowing that the small town people are going though. They don’t care
Goatboy, I knew what you meant. We have to be really careful, and not hit any goats. That would make them bitter.
JSmith Thank _you
finaly some one that beleave telling the truth hurts some time
Are you for real? If your IQ is above 85, I would be amazed!
You Go Hillary…Ive said it before and I will say it again….Give Obama enough rope and he IS hanging himself nicely!!!!
Patty must be racist….she say obama, rope and hanging in same sentence
TRS, Please say who your comment is directed to.
What angers me with the Clintons is the fact they have degraded our value system with their continuos lies…I liked this article:
Hillary Clinton Lies About Bosnia Trip
Contact: Don Swarthout, President, Christians Reviving America’s Values, CRAVE, 859-219-1222, 859-619-2811 cell
WASHINGTON, March 26 /Christian Newswire/ — Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton has lied about her trip to Bosnia in 1996. On at least three occasions Hillary has recounted stories about how she and her daughter were under attack from sniper’s fire when they landed in Bosnia.
Hillary Clinton has said she misspoke, but if she did have a memory lapse, she had the same memory lapse at least three times on the campaign trail during the past year. What is so astonishing is that a Presidential Candidate can tell lies and then think it is OK continue to lie to the American public.
Neil Cavuto of Fox News called Hillary Clinton’s story a lie. It just can’t be called anything else considering the facts of the case and Hillary doesn’t seem to regret being caught in this type of “misstatement.”
Don Swarthout, President of Christians Reviving America’s Values said, “The worst thing about this whole story is the fact America’s Society has developed a tolerance for allowing Presidential Candidates to tell lies and we all accept it.”
Swarthout said, “I am tired of people who are running for President and our elected officials lying to us all of the time…and the America people seemingly just accept it as part of the political process. When are we going to wake up and demand the truth?”
Swarthout made a very important and powerful statement when he said, “I believe we have a right to expect a government based upon the principles of God…instead of a government based upon the principles of the devil.”
“As American’s we have a right to expect a government based upon the standards of telling us the plain truth and treating people who elected
McCain 08′
JBSmith…Obama tells the truth??
I have never heard Pastor right talk anti american in the whole 20 yrs????
And a hell of alot more lies to boot…You still drinkin that kook-aide??
LMFAO Goat doer!!!! Typical black person fer ya!!!
patty…it was a joke…pull your panties from crack now
Ok!! Me too!!
I’ll try this again…JSmith. Are you for real? If your IQ is above 85, I would be amazed!
Patty, I`m sure goatboy was just joking with you. He`s one of the good guys.
HUH???? ADUH!!!!! TOO MUCH KOOK-AIDE MAN!!!! YOU SHOULD GET SOME…I THINK IT HAS SOME REALLY GOOD CRACK IN IT!!!
I said Ok…. LOL! Im sure he is a good guy. You good too!
Sorry All,
Had to step away for a moment.
Let me start with you Paul. First, I do understand that many people were affected (lost jobs) because of NAFTA, but you what is it about Obamas position that leads you to believe he will help? Was it his speech in Ohio wherebye he stated he would change the rules of NAFTA or was it when he sent his campaign staff up to the Canadian officials to explain that he really didn’t mean what he said rather was just using rhetoric? OBAMA is a phony and what’s worse is he is trying to feed everyone exactly what they want to hear, while denying he ever said the opposite on any given day.
Now Pamela,
I am by no means a Hillary or Barack supporter but there is a clear difference between them. They both say anything for a vote and over the last month or so we’ve all seen both of them embellish their past, defend their judgement, and try and convince us that either of them are better then the other. The problem is, they both make endless promises and have no plan on enacting any of it. Why? Because they can’t pay for it and Congress/Senate can not continue to drive us in debt forever. They (Congress/Senate) are already facing election problems for their indulgence and so whomever is in office will understand we the people are tired of it. Both Hillary and Barack propose 750 billion in excess spending with the only way to pay for it being the 55 to 150 billion they can collect from the people making over $65,000 per year. That leaves 600 - 695billion unaccounted for which means they would add another 2.4 - 2.8 trillion dollars to our nations debt. The only way they would not is if they elected to tax us across the board, meaning higher taxes for each of us individually, sales tax, investment tax, capital gains tax, etc.
Hillary is goin to have this nomination after this one.
Hillary and McCain both voted for the war. Either of these to win we will be in war for a long time.This is not the time for a women to run this country .Hillary cries for every little thing and she want to run america. Hillary was a supporter of NAFTA and she trying to tell us she knows what we are going thru . All Hillary want is to win the white house so she will say what ever she has to to win. I know us american are to smart to fall for her and McBush tricks. Hillary and McCain are in washington to long and they will never changes. We need someone new and it will Obama. Obama is very intelligent for Hillary and MCcain. That why the both attack Obama for every little thing.
when I was a kid I had a goat named Butchie, he would follow me around and once in a while get onry and head butt me-honest…hey that reminds me of someone. he he:)
It is very clear
obama is not a typical black person
obama is a racist person
did american women2 go to grammar skewl?
Db, well tell us how McCain plans on paying and fixing things… He has no plans, atleast Hillary will try to d o the things she is promising. What is McCain going to do….NOTHING!!!! That would be just great!
Some things Never Change. And Some People either. What will they do when they get absolute Power when they are Already corrupt?
We can show the results in New Orleans and Gary and Detroit and Michigan City too, that’s just for the last 35 years of the Elitist, Democratic, Hope gone Wild! Ray Nagin and his Leadership?
But being, “Typical White American” we are relegated to being “Racist” or “BITTER” Religious Fanatic’s when All we Want is, to Keep our Jobs and Guns?
“Affirmative Action and the Rainbow Coalition, Reverends Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, along with the Comments, and Attitude of Mr. Wright?”
And we are supposed to “BUY” Obama’s Comments, that he “Misstated or could have Phrased
His Wording; “BETTER?” Sorry Charlie! That Tuna won’t Sing!
Another Freudian Slip, from the democrats from either Hillary or Obama, and they cannot get the Backing out of the Country, let alone the Party for the General Elections in November.
But I Like the Comment about the “Grandmother Too!” Give them enough rope etc…….
Seems like enough said? He Said, She Said? Well Not well Said at this rate.
Patty,
Somehow, I am getting the impression that the white haters of Obama - because of Rev Wright - appear to believe Black America should have never held a grudge against them ever.
Here is something which I wrote above ^ as to why a politician should not talk about TRUTH:
“……………. Because people like to be told good things. Because people love to be told how good they are. Because people would prefer to believe in a rosy picture of the world they live in, than a world that is real and ugly. People prefer to believe that they go to church not to pray for hope and better future but they are REALLY God fearing. People prefer to believe that they own guns because of their birth right and not because of some deep seated insecurity inside them. Our reflection in a mirror is ugly but we dont like to see that, and so we prefer those who make us look good. ”
So there is certainly a white America, that will always refuse to accept that they ever did wrong things to people of other races. For in this case TRUTH hurts. And we will follow any ~goat~, let alone accomplished politicians like Hillary Clinton or John McCain, that will preach to us that we are all good people.
Who knows Obama may end up losing, but Hillary Clinton and McCain both appeal to the lowest and the baset of human emotions. They are the ~REAL~ snake oil sales men, who want to convey to their dutiful flock that all is hunky and dory in the world unlike what Obama says. So voters go to sleep Mamma and Pappa will take care and dont listen to nasty things that Obama says.
A very White man for Obama.
Obama 08
goatboy raise hell with butchie in high school….fooled around with his sister too!
Hey JSmith…. Drink some more Obama juice!!!
Patty,
I’m glad you asked. :o) The difference between McCain and the dems is quite simple. McCain has said he would be a fiscal conservative unlike President Bush whereby he would limit his budget to what was needed and cut all earmarks. Now, that may not seem like a lot but when you consider we are 9 trillion dollars in debt and 8.5 trillion of that came from excess Budgets and earmarks you see it can mean a lot. I know most dems attribute the 9 trillion to the war spending but facts are facts folks and even Obama says the war has cost us about 500 billion.
Comment by DB
April 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Sorry All,
Had to step away for a moment.
Let me start with you Paul. First, I do understand that many people were affected (lost jobs) because of NAFTA, but you what is it about Obamas position that leads you to believe he will help? Was it his speech in Ohio wherebye he stated he would change the rules of NAFTA or was it when he sent his campaign staff up to the Canadian officials to explain that he really didn’t mean what he said rather was just using rhetoric? OBAMA is a phony and what’s worse is he is trying to feed everyone exactly what they want to hear, while denying he ever said the opposite on any given day.
Now Pamela,
I am by no means a Hillary or Barack supporter but there is a clear difference between them. They both say anything for a vote and over the last month or so we’ve all seen both of them embellish their past, defend their judgement, and try and convince us that either of them are better then the other. The problem is, they both make endless promises and have no plan on enacting any of it. Why? Because they can’t pay for it and Congress/Senate can not continue to drive us in debt forever. They (Congress/Senate) are already facing election problems for their indulgence and so whomever is in office will understand we the people are tired of it. Both Hillary and Barack propose 750 billion in excess spending with the only way to pay for it being the 55 to 150 billion they can collect from the people making over $65,000 per year. That leaves 600 - 695billion unaccounted for which means they would add another 2.4 - 2.8 trillion dollars to our nations debt. The only way they would not is if they elected to tax us across the board, meaning higher taxes for each of us individually, sales tax, investment tax, capital gains tax, etc
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DB
Hey I agree with everything you say..yep all of it-I am voting for McCain…I do not think either is a good choice for president..sometimes people think because I write a lot about Hillary I want Obama to be president..not the case..I like him better..I guess because I do not find him as phony, but agree he would not be a good choice for a president..mostly bcause he thinks chatting with the bad guys will make all better k:)
obama explained his WORDS perfectly
pennsylvanians are typical white people who lost their jobs 25 years ago
and cling to guns and cling to their religion and are anti immigrant
only because they are frustrated and unhappy with their lives
and it is passed down from generation to generation
makes total sense to me if you take into account barack is from another planet and
has NO clue about american people
My bad Pamela, I was reading between the lines and thought you were supporting Barack. I apologize.
Patty
Don’t count you chicken before they hatch. Patty I guess you don’t care that Hillary lied about being under snipper fire, or is a supporter for NAFT .
Patty you said:
“”Hey JSmith…. Drink some more Obama juice!!!”"
So you are SPEECHLESS!
You see, when faced with facts Obama haters become speechless! And this is the precise reason why Obama will win over many votes. For people who hate Obama have only hot air left inside them.
Obama 08.
J SMITH ARE YOU ON CRACK OBAMA IS A WORTHLESS PEICE OF CRAP!
Ok, got to head to dinner. Be back later and would love to continue comparing the candidates. There is clearly a difference!
God Bless America!!
McCain 08!
http://obama.senate.gov/news/050528-youth_is_served/index.php
barack has got us all duped just like adolph
PROVE WE ARE SPEECHLESS WE SEE THINGS CLEAR UNLIKE THE OBAMA RETARDS THAT ARE BLIND AS A BAT AND DEAF AS A RABBIT WITH ITS EARS CUT OFF
Comment by DB
April 12th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
My bad Pamela, I was reading between the lines and thought you were supporting Barack. I apologize.
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No problem…happens often so I started putting McCain 08″ at bottom of page…guess I forgot on a few:) I started disliking the Clintons years back ..they haven’t changed a lick, but the good thing is more people see how they lie because of the sniper whopper…easier to relate to when it is plastered on TV, or I guess less easy to weasle out of.
Hey crack head…I am so not speechless. I have a voice and I so no to Obama. You will see. You are a typical black person as he is..so I get it!!!
MAYBE BARACK SHOULD WORK A REAL JOB AND STOP TAKING MONEY OFF THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT HE CUTS DOWN!
So I have two Speechless comments for me:
“J SMITH ARE YOU ON CRACK OBAMA IS A WORTHLESS PEICE OF CRAP!” by an angry white man
and
“Hey JSmith…. Drink some more Obama juice!!!”” by Patty.
What I really dont seem to understand, that coming from self proclaimed gaurdians of morality - the right wing, their comments include personal attacks on other people. Obama haters, certainly seem to relish indulging in personal attacks, and lack the guts to debate the issue at hand. Certainly they are afraid of the truth. For truth is ugly and painful if fully understood.
You know who said this: “…. truth will make you free.”
Hint: John 8:31-32
I GUESS WE SEE WHO IS SPEECHLESS NOW THAT HE CANT BACK UP HIS MOUTH.
all we want is change
germany got change with adolph
america will get change with barack
whats the problem
oh yes they both preach HATE
A must read http://gregg.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=a7f45649-802a-23ad-429a-2180d84c3b2b&Region_id=&Issue_id=
OBAMA IS LIKE PEICE OF CRAP THAT SHOULD BE FLUSHED AWAY AND FOR YOU J SMITH THE TRUTH WILL BE ON APRIL22 AND THEN ON YOU WILLSEE CRACK BABY ON A LAND SLIDE
Patty BTW , I am white 45 years old, 2 kids and a great wife. (all white).
But it does not matter if you dont believe me, for I could as well imagine you are an alien from the fifth planet of Sirius.
In this internet age, debate issues at hand. Attacking someone on who he is will not matter. People around America, and indeed the world read blogs including this. Your hatred only serves the candidate you support negatively. So think before you post.
All trhee make promises, but there is a diiference; McCain, no action, or reluctantly some action which doesn’t make a lot of difference; Hillary is too divisive and in end not much get done: Obama, action and some fresh thinking.
angry white man:
you said:
OBAMA IS LIKE PEICE OF CRAP THAT SHOULD BE FLUSHED AWAY …………….
As I advised patty I advise you: Your hatred and rants will only serve to show the candidate whom you support negatively. Lot of people read these blogs, so think before you post.
jsmith
are you for real? do you believe in the KKA of america????
do you believe in typical white person statement?
do you believe small town folks are any different than other folks?
do you believe small town folks cling to religion because they are unhappy with their economic situation?
do you believe the founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment
are you friends with people who have bombed the pentagon and other sites?
are you friends with corrupt land development men?
truth b known, good read on Gregg!
Glad to see Reality Checks, in the Mail! LOL!
Great Post!
Comment by ari
April 12th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
All trhee make promises, but there is a diiference; McCain, no action, or reluctantly some action which doesn’t make a lot of difference; Hillary is too divisive and in end not much get done: Obama, action and some fresh thinking.
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ari, I have to disagree with you ..not on Hillary being divisive or Obama with some fresh thinking…no the part where you said “McCain, no action” ..pretty much took action by pushing the surge idea for Iraq, which by the way seems