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McCain expresses concern about Iran

Kansas City, MO — Expect General Petraeus to discuss increasing Iranian ties to violence in Iraq as well as the state of affairs in Basra this week, McCain told the press corps aboard his plane Sunday.

“I think you’re going to hear more about the Iranian influence, the arms they’ve provided, the money, the training, particularly the extent of their influence in Southern Iraq. It’s pretty extensive and I think he’s going to be talking about that,” McCain said en route to Kansas City, where he is preparing to deliver an address on the war Monday.

The presumptive GOP nominee said he has not spoken with Petraeus about his testimony but said of Iran: “I hope that we can present the facts this time and they would be irrefutable, and they would be based on concrete evidence.”

McCain said the Iranians are “stepping up some of their efforts” because they are worried about an effective Iraqi government taking control, adding that some of the evidence he is seeing of increasing Iranian military involvement are not “Curveball’s allegations.” ((Curveball was the infamous Iraqi CIA informant whose stories about Iraqi WMD development in the leadup to the war turned out to be false.))

Queried whether his Iran talk is part of a drumbeat for war, McCain retorted that “because I’m worried about Iranian influence doesn’t mean that I’m ready to go to war with Iran.”

Petraeus is set to testify before the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday.

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Comment by EJ

This smacks of what George W Bush told us before he was elected. He was determined to take out Hussein, so look where we are now. McCain has always wanted to bomb Iran. Be careful, we may get what we voted for AGAIN!!. Our only hope is to VOTE CLINTON, the other two are too wacky to be president.

 
Comment by Jeff X

EJ, worried about someone “getting tough” with IRAN? You must be a graduate of the “Neville Chamberlain School of Diplomacy”.

 
Comment by Kali

So, it sounds like the Bush agenda is coming to fruition. I bet Bush goes to war with Iran even before we have a new President.
I am not excited about any of the candidates, but of these 3, Obama seems to be the only one without a real personal agenda. Clinton, she just wants to win. She will lie and do anything it takes. Its personal for her. I don’t trust her. McCain, I admire. He is a stand up candidate, has not asked his wife ( who is worth 100mil ) for a penny for his run, and rises above the media. But, he is a Republican, and will probably follow the line. I may vote for Bob Barr once I learn more about him. It would be great to have a Lib in office. Break the cycle.

 
Comment by Robert

Where does it all end? How long is America going to continue down this path of self-destruction? War without end is not a reasonable option. How irresposible was it to go into Iraq without a plan to deal with cutting off Iran to begin with? Shouldn’t we be trying to repair our ties with the U.N.?
Have we not learned anything from the fall of the Roman Empire, the decline of the British Empire, the collapse of the Soviet Union, and countless others?

 
Comment by Jeff X

Comment by Robert
April 7th, 2008 at 6:22 am

Where does it all end? How long is America going to continue down this path of self-destruction? War without end is not a reasonable option. How irresposible was it to go into Iraq without a plan to deal with cutting off Iran to begin with? Shouldn’t we be trying to repair our ties with the U.N.?
Have we not learned anything from the fall of the Roman Empire, the decline of the British Empire, the collapse of the Soviet Union, and countless others?
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The UN???…Yes, let’s look through history at the wondefully inept ways the UN has dealt with petty dictators. Answer..they DON’T

As for the fall of the various “Empires”, let’s see.

The Roman Empire collapsed from within due to it’s weakening of military, and it’s moral decline. (Democrats)

The British Empire declines because they were militarily weak, and politically weak, (Chamberlain) in dealing with Adolph Hitler. If America hadn’t come to Great Brit. aid,
they’d of lost WW2. America, not Britain became the world dominate power, because of it’s STRENGTH. (Britain weak military= America weak military=Democrats)

The Soviet “Empire” was defeated by Ronald Reagan, simply because he had a SPINE. He didn’t kiss Soviet butt like other wimpy American leaders, and OUTSPENT the Soviets in rebuilding the American military after the weakness we showed under Carter.

In ALL cases, military might, not being fearful in using it, and strong moral fiber would of “saved” those empires. The very thing the Democrats fight against.

 
Comment by Haley Rodman Clemson

Iran IS a threat to the Western world and democracy in general. You don’t have to believe some poorly done intelligence reports, Iran’s leadership makes it clear that they are hell-bent on destroying our way of life. How is this not a threat?

 
Comment by dust

Jeff X: Awsome post!!

 
Comment by Jeff X

Obama/Fonda ‘08

I can see it now, DEM convention in Denver, on stage DEM nomination winners Obama/Fonda holding hands together up high in victory, old NVA soldiers on stage for Fonda, Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson, Louie F. for Obama, the picture of an NVA AA gun in the background, Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, Bill & Hillary on stage around them, burning a US flag, chanting GOD D*** America!

And Democrats across the nation, with tears in their eyes, wildly clapping their approval.

 
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Comment by Robert

Jeff X,
You have a very narrow perspective on history. You should see, however, that economic and military weakness are two of the risks we face from over-extending our military and our resources.

 
Comment by Bob

Jeff, great post. Thanks. It always gets me when I read or hear the Main Stream News refer to the war as an Un-popular war. As if any war is popular. Ronald Regan was the only one to out right call the Soviet Union the Evil Empire. America was looking pretty weak during the Carter years.

 
Comment by Kikz

Read OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES (Updated to reflect new dishonesties)

http://www.audacityofHypocrisy.com

OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES (no less than 66 lies as of March 31 2008)

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in

1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated

youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most

corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila

Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate

election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily

Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention,

Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from

which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic

and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where

you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your

wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as

Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check

your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak

the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you

were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language.

What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise)

and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on

the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite

content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention

of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find

the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet

to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did,

exist.

15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite

saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and

you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU,

but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and

democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON

LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write

it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start

to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own

party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your

Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills

you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special

interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a

large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention

anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies

were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted

against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters

claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR

bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to

assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government

issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on

terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of

Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead

terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you

and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12

times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the

vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small

windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of

which you didn’t write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening

to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate

Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and

counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign

worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace

issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other

people’s words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in

the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote

against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich,

who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from

your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves

us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both

companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no

record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you

don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your

wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in

relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your wife has received

nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to

Wal-Mart.

51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year,

made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.

52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise

was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit

Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks

VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for

17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he

was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property

and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then

Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you

$625,000.

54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu

($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught

lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their

money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.

55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so

extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the

US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.

56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to

repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large

sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and

revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so

terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is

disagreement, Senator Obama.

57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only

connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC

supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who

ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have

helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions

of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free

to be taken over by special interests such as him.

58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all

day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said

“Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”

59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your

own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked

into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you

looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!

60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks

appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise

money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America.

61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase -

LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and

Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.

62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long

time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the

last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at

Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for

Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a

pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How

lucky for you.

63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. [03/30/2008]

You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had

your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from

the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395

from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from

Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600

from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but

certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure

that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a

dream, eh?

64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the

death penalty and abortion - LIAR - [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama —

the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the

questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added

to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey

65) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first

to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm

over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev.

Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic

primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary

Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to

label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here

66) I did not take money from oil companies: - LIAR - [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No

candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians.

Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect

voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama

doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.

But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies

and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s

presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry

employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan

Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from

industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the

likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the

center’s totals.

Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief

executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the

president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co.

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

 
Comment by Make Iran Glow

Listen…..it couldn’t be a better time than now to take out Iran. Either the Israelis or the USA is going to have to do the dirty work very soon and its just a matter of who is going to do it because the World community knows Iran would light up city after city if they perfect the bomb. We have over 100,000 men and women and great military equipment a breath away from Tehran with thousands more military personel and equipment in Afganistan. Therefore, we already have military on both sides of the Iranian border and have created the “pincer” effect. It always gets ugly before it gets better and war is ugly but not a fraction of just how ugly this world is going to be if we allow the Iranians to attain the bomb and get into the “club”. We have months, maybe one year left to begin this process before it may be too late. We may as well take care of business now because if we bring those troops home then we will just have to cover the expense and time to bring the troops right back over to Iran, yet, next time the Iranians will have time to be prepared. Once the Iranians are taken out, then the Mideast becomes a better place to live and stability will exist at last. Once Iran is taken down, then the Syrians will cooperate as outside of the Iranian and the Syrians, the other Arab countries in the area will breathe a little easier as they are all scared as hell of the Iranians as you can see by the disposition of the Saudis. Strategically, our oil and some of our resources are then safe and then the price of oil goes down as well meaning we killed two birds with one stone. We have got to do it now!!!! I think McCain is just the right guy for the job.

 
Comment by Jean, GA

I hope Bush does confront Iran but I would not blame him for waiting until after the general election.
If Obama gets elected, I hope Bush attacks all of Iran’s nuclear sights right before Obama takes his oath. Obama wants to talk to Iran and bombing these sights would ensure no negotiations will ever take place. Hooray for Bush to save his last act till the very end of his administration.

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

Jean, GA

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

 
Comment by angry white person

Jean GA, GOOD point the only problem is the lost innocent lives and for obama it might be nice if he was there talking at the time as he wants to have talk like a idiot i am a demo.At least Hillary would send advisors over first and Mccain would do the same.Obama would be scheming how to destroy the U.S.A. like his pastor would want

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

angry white person,

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

 
Comment by Make Iran Glow

“Jean GA” - You are on track in proper thinking about attacking Iran. However, you got one thing misplaced. You are assuming that Obama is going to “take his oath”…which isn’t going to happen as McCain has already got this election sown up. There is no way the Electoral College is going to allow Obama get the Electorates. Despite all of the rhetoric on these boards and on television news shows from the leftists, Obama doesn’t have a prayer to win this thing in the big picture.

 
Comment by profitleads

That McCain is eyeing Iran as an opportunity for another foreign military intervention is not a surprize. That’s his bag. He has already stated that he doesn’t know anything about economics or the economy, so it’s only reasonable that he direct more of his attention to some area where he has some experience. Get ready, the MSM will start pumping out the “reasons” for military interventionism in Iran soon enough, even though our own military is being worn down steadily. By that time, the Iranians should have the new Russian S-300 missile defense system installed and other Russian hardware operational. It will all make for more powerful reasons to continue to erode, and eventually eliminate, those civil liberties in the U.S. that have not already been destoyed by the so-called Patriot act(s). George Orwell has got to be rolling over in his grave.

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

Make Iran Glow

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by profitleads
April 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am

That McCain is eyeing Iran as an opportunity for another foreign military intervention is not a surprize. That’s his bag. He has already stated that he doesn’t know anything about economics or the economy, so it’s only reasonable that he direct more of his attention to some area where he has some experience. Get ready, the MSM will start pumping out the “reasons” for military interventionism in Iran soon enough, even though our own military is being worn down steadily. By that time, the Iranians should have the new Russian S-300 missile defense system installed and other Russian hardware operational. It will all make for more powerful reasons to continue to erode, and eventually eliminate, those civil liberties in the U.S. that have not already been destoyed by the so-called Patriot act(s). George Orwell has got to be rolling over in his grave.
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I love to watch liberals twist the facts, or simply make them up as needed, to justify their bizarre notions.

His actual statement was “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” A far cry from “doesn’t know anything”.

In case you hadn’t noticed, the MSM has spent the last 5 years pumping out gloom and doom over Iraq. They slowed down only because the surge is actually working, leaving them with little in the way of negatives to report. The MSM is decidedly liberal and pounces on every perceived opportunity to discredit the idea that Iran is strive to develop nuclear weapons.

Ahhh, the malignant Patriot Act. Please name a civil liberty you have been deprived of under the Act. Please offer a single instance in which a case has been accepted in the courts naming the Patriot Act as the source of a civil rights violation.

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

andylit

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

 
 
 
Comment by Tel...

Comment by Andylit
April 7th, 2008 at 12:23 pm Comment by profitleads
April 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am
His actual statement was “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” A far cry from “doesn’t know anything”.

In case you hadn’t noticed, the MSM has spent the last 5 years pumping out gloom and doom over Iraq. They slowed down only because the surge is actually working, leaving them with little in the way of negatives to report. The MSM is decidedly liberal and pounces on every perceived opportunity to discredit the idea that Iran is strive to develop nuclear weapons.

Ahhh, the malignant Patriot Act. Please name a civil liberty you have been deprived of under the Act. Please offer a single instance in which a case has been accepted in the courts naming the Patriot Act as the source of a civil rights violation.

…………………………………………….

An interesting example of Obama’s lack of economic understanding is his recent refusal to ratify a trade agreement with Colombia, citing he doesn’t like the way unions are treated in that country. Apparently any economic advantages or disadvantages weren’t a concern. He’s only interested in the socialist aspect in this case. Do you really think that’s the way a president should be posturing during a time of economic concern in the US?

Iran’s nuclear overtures are clear, it’s matter of when not if. A nuclear armed Iran is a terrorfying thought.

Ahh…the Patriot Act paranoia. Agreed..name one civil liberty you’ve lost. Maybe they have an issue with taking their shoes at airports?

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by TRUTH-BE-KNOWN
April 7th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=71D7EA1F-802A-23AD-47D6-EEB1DABE3D24

The whole idea that man can impact the carbon cycle in any significant manner is ludicrous.

All of the basic computer models used for these “studies” are being debunked, one after another.

 
Comment by Andylit

Hey Profitleads,

Are you still searching for civil rights violations?

You can stop now. You won’t find any.

 
Comment by RC MO.

I have learned with time that my opinion on this blog is not a popular one, but I don`t care. I don`t know how many of you are old enough to remember Jimmy Carter. He was a very nice Christian man. That is mainly what got him in office. People wanted to get awy from what they percieved to be the corruption of the Nixon administration. The only problem was, he was a P-ssy. While he was in office a plane was hijacked by terrorist almost weekly. He wanted to be diplomatic about everything, and it equated to weakness. During the Iran hostage situation, main stream media gave Carter the credit for coming up with a way for their release, but they still didn`t let them go until Reagans first day on the job. Why do you think that was? It was because they wanted to treat Carter like the punk he was, and because Reagan had already made it clear he was not going to deal with terrorist, in any way. We still have not made a strong enough efford to impose our will on this region, instead they are dictating what we do. I say we take a little break, have a major millitary restructuring, and then impose our will on the entire arab world, untill it`s no longer an issue. When we are done, keep it all. Real estate, oil, and whatever else thats worth having. Whoever feels guilty about it could just move to whatever gay country they feel comfortable in.

 
Comment by Tel...

It’s minor point but a point all the same. I saw an article on CNN’s website where Obama is trying to push his patriotism on the voting public.

When he makes statements like his not wearing a flag pin for what the flag represents to other countries…he’s not very convincing.

 
Comment by Pamela

Should we have went to Iraq for WMD’s or to save rhe people from a tyrant and to stop aid to terrorist ..I say yes..but even if you do not agree with this, we are in Iraq and Iran is firing missles at our troops daily and also send in radical muslims to bomb Americans and the Iraq people. Iran will make a bomb and I do believe that Iran leader when he said he wants to wipe Isreal off the earth..why would anyone believe he would not use it on America? The only reason I can think of is because we would bomb them right back-but do they care? that is a big question? I believe they think in the terms of further centuries and will come back and have the world as they wish. We need a President who knows the real danger here..you cannot sit and talk with a evil man as this-maybe we should have visited with Hitler more-I know silly idea.

 
Comment by TRUTH-BE-KNOWN

Andy, Anyone who would fall for the booGOREeaters fallacies is a fool. But, if Gore’s brought into the campaign , I wonder how many Dem crossovers would be pulled back if they believe this junk?

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by RC MO.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

I have learned with time that my opinion on this blog is not a popular one, but I don`t care. I don`t know how many of you are old enough to remember Jimmy Carter. He was a very nice Christian man. That is mainly what got him in office. People wanted to get awy from what they percieved to be the corruption of the Nixon administration. The only problem was, he was a P-ssy. While he was in office a plane was hijacked by terrorist almost weekly. He wanted to be diplomatic about everything, and it equated to weakness. During the Iran hostage situation, main stream media gave Carter the credit for coming up with a way for their release, but they still didn`t let them go until Reagans first day on the job. Why do you think that was? It was because they wanted to treat Carter like the punk he was, and because Reagan had already made it clear he was not going to deal with terrorist, in any way. We still have not made a strong enough efford to impose our will on this region, instead they are dictating what we do. I say we take a little break, have a major millitary restructuring, and then impose our will on the entire arab world, untill it`s no longer an issue. When we are done, keep it all. Real estate, oil, and whatever else thats worth having. Whoever feels guilty about it could just move to whatever gay country they feel comfortable in.
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My only issue with the above statement is about taking a break. Unfortunately, if we do, it will just be that much harder to root them out and beat them later. We need to boost men and equipment without curtailing current activities.

I suggest we take the gloves off in Iraq and clean out Basra and Sadr City. Once those pestholes are emptied of Sadr’s people, it will be easier to move forward politically. And al-Malaki needs to step aside for someone with some balls. I think the best we can hope for there is an Iraqracy with most of our freedoms, but not all. It will take time to ween them from the power figure mentality.

Next, we clean up northern Afghanistan AND the Pakistani border. Musharraf is history, so we will have a hostile government there anyway.

And keep tabs on Somalia, dropping some mayhem into local concentrations of Islamists to keep them off balance until we can clean house there as well.

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

RC MO

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Comment by Alan

Who really cares about Iran other than the noecons and Israelis? Let’s worry about our internal issues and our neighbors, not the neighbors of countries on the other side of the world… That’s true conservatism! McCain just wants the Jewish and altra conservative Christian vote but whos side is he on anyway, the guys hasn’t even been baptized!

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by TRUTH-BE-KNOWN
April 7th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

Andy, Anyone who would fall for the booGOREeaters fallacies is a fool. But, if Gore’s brought into the campaign , I wonder how many Dem crossovers would be pulled back if they believe this junk?
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Hard to say. The inconvenient lie is developing chinks in the armor. Just a couple days a go, one of the UN’s primary authors indicated that the energy efficiency assumptions used are overstated by a factor of 3 or 4 on a going forward basis.

If Gore is VP (which I doubt he’ll accept), he opens himself up to being forced to answer inconvenient questions.

 
Comment by RC MO.

Andylit, When I say take a break, I don`t mean pull troops out. I mean, for the sake of appearance, have a lull in the action while we concentrate on a major buildup and home. Not waste any resources on useless, unorganized offenses. Granted, some diplomacy has to be trown in the mix to avoid the rabbid pit bull mentallity. What I am mainly doing is showing my loss of patience for the constant flood of panty waist liberal thinking we are exposed to daily.

 
Comment by jake

Um, remind us all who’s paying for the wars? CHINA! And who’s bailing out Wall Street? CHINA. And when CHINA comes knocking on our door for their $ back what are you going to do then?

 
Comment by Tel...

Comment by Andylit
April 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm Comment by RC MO.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

I suggest we take the gloves off in Iraq and clean out Basra and Sadr City. Once those pestholes are emptied of Sadr’s people, it will be easier to move forward politically. And al-Malaki needs to step aside for someone with some balls. I think the best we can hope for there is an Iraqracy with most of our freedoms, but not all. It will take time to ween them from the power figure mentality.

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If memory serves me, I think Iraq has an election coming up. I need to research it to confirm. That would mean either Maliki keeps the job or deal with a new player.

Musharaf maybe history but full scale operations in Western Pakistan may not be wise right now. We need to see the temprament of the new players in Pakistan first.

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by Alan
April 7th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Who really cares about Iran other than the noecons and Israelis? Let’s worry about our internal issues and our neighbors, not the neighbors of countries on the other side of the world… That’s true conservatism! McCain just wants the Jewish and altra conservative Christian vote but whos side is he on anyway, the guys hasn’t even been baptized!
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Neocon is a term that was coined by liberals as a pejorative to be used against other liberals who saw the light and abandoned the liberal cause and stepped into the reality of a FACT based outlook.

We call it common sense. You call it conservatism. So be it.

Burying your head under the blanket of the Western Hemisphere will not make the monsters go away or render you safe. Unlike your childhood fears, these modern monsters will crawl in under the covers with you and kill you if you don’t take aggressive action under the bed.

 
Comment by RC MO.

Clinton Supporter, I`ll give her $2,300.00 if she can go a whole twenty-four hours without saying one word. That would be a sound investment, for me and her campagn.

 
Comment by Tel...

Comment by Tel…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:50 pm Comment by Andylit
April 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm Comment by RC MO.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

But I do agree with you that al Sadr needs to be neutralised once and for all. His faction is splintered and he keeps backing down but he’s still Iran’s surrogate in Iraq.

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

Andylit,

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

Lastest Gallup Poll: Obama = 52%, Clinton = 43%
(just released minutes ago)

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by Tel…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Comment by Andylit
April 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm Comment by RC MO.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

I suggest we take the gloves off in Iraq and clean out Basra and Sadr City. Once those pestholes are emptied of Sadr’s people, it will be easier to move forward politically. And al-Malaki needs to step aside for someone with some balls. I think the best we can hope for there is an Iraqracy with most of our freedoms, but not all. It will take time to ween them from the power figure mentality.

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If memory serves me, I think Iraq has an election coming up. I need to research it to confirm. That would mean either Maliki keeps the job or deal with a new player.

Musharaf maybe history but full scale operations in Western Pakistan may not be wise right now. We need to see the temprament of the new players in Pakistan first.
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I see the biggest problem of the last election cycle as the party slate method. As I recall, the people voted for a party instead of individuals, then the party gave the seats to whomever they chose.

I’ll concede your point on Pakistan, but I can see only bad or worse in the near term future of relations. If it does go sour, we will need to seriously consider “Active Pursuit”.

 
Comment by mom

al Sadr has an arrest warrant out for him since just after the invasion for killing his opposition. What are we so afraid of and take him down or out? It’s because we’ve made secret pact with with the Iranians that’s put us against the wall and now we can’t do anything but kiss al Sadr’s a$$.

 
Comment by RC MO.

Andylit, I don`t know if you read it or not, but Pamela left you a post after you signed off. She made the comment, that she really hoped you would read it. You might want to jump back to other blog a take a look. I think it was around 1:00 am or so.

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by jake
April 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Um, remind us all who’s paying for the wars? CHINA! And who’s bailing out Wall Street? CHINA. And when CHINA comes knocking on our door for their $ back what are you going to do then?
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So many keep shouting and spouting about this. It’s a really neat catch phrase.

Please tell us exactly what this means, in detail.

 
Comment by Obama!

Clintons done, one down, one to go!

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

Mom,

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

Lastest Gallup Poll: Obama = 52%, Clinton = 43%
(just released minutes ago)

 
Comment by A Clinton Supporter

Obama!

For Clinton to receive the nomination she must get 60% of the votes in all remaining states and 60% of the remaining superdelegates. Her campaign is in desperate need of support. Please sent your money today. Everyone can make a donation of $2300.00. Please go to Hillary’s web site and make your donation now!!!!!! Show your support through you donation.

Lastest Gallup Poll: Obama = 52%, Clinton = 43%
(just released minutes ago)

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by RC MO.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Andylit, I don`t know if you read it or not, but Pamela left you a post after you signed off. She made the comment, that she really hoped you would read it. You might want to jump back to other blog a take a look. I think it was around 1:00 am or so.
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I did see it this AM, then all heck broke loose on the job.

Pamela,

Being an atheist doesn’t blind me the the critical importance of faith in the lives of those around me.

Judea-Christian ethics are the very core of this nation. To me, it doesn’t matter where a person’s ethical and moral compass stems from, only that it exists and point towards love instead of hate.

I do have issues with some of the organized religions, but rarely ever with personal faith.

 
Comment by jake

It’s not complicated but I’ll try and explain. WE ARE INDEBTED TO CHINA! Period. Until this country and it’s people realize it’s not about how big your flat panel TV but where it’s made we don’t stand a chance. While we stir the hornets next otherwise known as the middle east for the sake of Israel, we are being dominated on all other fronts! We must invest in our infrastructure, focus on technology that will produce high paying manufacturing jobs here, not in some country we make so called “free trade” agreements with. That only means lost jobs here while the corporations and the rich pay less.

 
Comment by RC MO.

Jake, History tells us that the U.S. has always been in debt to other countries. From the begginning of this country we have always ran on credit, and thats a sign of strengh, not weakness. Would you invest that much money in something if you thought it was ready to collapse? And as far as China is conserned, I don`t think we should shudder at the thought of them, like everyone seems to do. Sure, they have the largest standing army in the world today, but not one man in it has ever seen combat. Not one. They haven`t been involved in a war in over fifty years. Even higher ranked soldiers have zero leadership expierience under fire. Most of them don`t even want to be in Cina, much less in the army. It`s real hard for a non-mtivated force to be an effective one. They would have a very tough time just getting started. Mainstream media also likes to use China as a scare tactic to spport their liberal way of thinking. But hey, this is just my opinion.

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by jake
April 7th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

It’s not complicated but I’ll try and explain. WE ARE INDEBTED TO CHINA! Period. Until this country and it’s people realize it’s not about how big your flat panel TV but where it’s made we don’t stand a chance. While we stir the hornets next otherwise known as the middle east for the sake of Israel, we are being dominated on all other fronts! We must invest in our infrastructure, focus on technology that will produce high paying manufacturing jobs here, not in some country we make so called “free trade” agreements with. That only means lost jobs here while the corporations and the rich pay less.
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You just repeated yourself without explaining.

Indebted how? Exactly who is indebted, and how?

 
Comment by Make Iran Glow

To “A Clinton Supporter” - What are you f##king kidding me? I will die before I give one penny to Clinton or Obama…………………….ever!!!!!

 
Comment by Tel...

Comment by Andylit
April 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pm Comment by Tel…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

I see the biggest problem of the last election cycle as the party slate method. As I recall, the people voted for a party instead of individuals, then the party gave the seats to whomever they chose.

I’ll concede your point on Pakistan, but I can see only bad or worse in the near term future of relations. If it does go sour, we will need to seriously consider “Active Pursuit”.

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Agreed on the first point. It’s important to remember Da’Wa (Maliki’s party) was essentially in exile in Iran and has terrorist roots.

Pakistan is a tough issue. You’ve got a military that is sympathetic to Islamist ideals. You’ve got researchers willing to get nukes to the Radical Islamic world. Then you’ve got the wild west of Western Pakistan and it’s tribal factions. It’s a mess and could get messier. My take is al Zawahiri and Bin Laden will eventually surface (they have to). It won’t be an issue to take them out this time. That would be a huge blow to al Qaeda and radical Islam. I’ll concede the hydra scenario is quite likely in that a new player will surface (PLO,Fatah and Hamas are a good example) but Bin Laden comes with a lot of money and he’s radical islam’s poster boy for striking “the great satan” on his home soil. Considering the PR al Zawahiri is having to do to keep “al Qaeda Inc” functioning in Iraq, I think taking him and Bin Laden out will serve us to a greater degree under current conditions. My gut tells me an operation to take out al Zawahiri and Bin Laden would not inflame the arabs and muslims as much as an open assault on Western Pakistan.

 
Comment by RC MO.

MakeIranGlo, Seems that Clinton supporter hit a nerve. Hold your ground…..

 
Comment by jake

Andy, in case you are in denial and not sure what idiot would want unfriendly foreign nations to own you but here a few things to think about:

The U.S. national debt now stands at more than $8.3 trillion, of which more than $2 trillion is owned by foreigners. Since 2000, the percentage of U.S. public debt owed to foreigners has doubled.

As of March of this year, China held over $321 billion worth of U.S. Treasuries, up from the $60 billion it owned at the end of 2000. Similarly, Japan now owns $640 billion worth of U.S. Treasuries, up from $317.7 billion in December 2000.

The irony is that the three countries in the world adding to reserves the fastest and thus buying the most U.S. debt now are China, Saudi Arabia and Russia, none of them democracies. … We are increasingly counting on a group of creditors who are not our closest friends but have a bigger and bigger stake in America.

What’s wrong with this you ask?

First, the value of the dollar is increasingly dependent upon foreigners. This makes the U.S. vulnerable to coercion and blackmail.

The second problem with having foreigners hold so much U.S. debt is the risk that foreigners may choose to stop accumulating it and start spending it. As with any person, the more money you have, the greater the pull to spend. If foreign nations begin to spend their dollars, the increased supply of U.S. greenbacks in circulation would probably drive the value of the dollar down, making American possessions less expensive relative to assets in other currencies. Consequently, American corporations and businesses could increasingly become targets of foreign acquisitions. And that has already begun happening…..

 
Comment by Tel...

Comment by jake
April 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

The other side of the coin is that China relies heavily on US trade right now. It won’t jeopardise that kind of lucrative scenario. What it does in Africa may tell us more on their game plan further down the track.

 
Comment by Amy

Agreed with Jake!

Who is a serf? A serf is one whose destiny is owned by others. Someone else owns the land he slaves on. Someone else owns the profits and technology he develops. All the fruits of his labor flow to his owners.

Debt is turning America into a serfdom.

 
Comment by Pamela

Comment by Andylit
April 7th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Comment by RC MO.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Andylit, I don`t know if you read it or not, but Pamela left you a post after you signed off. She made the comment, that she really hoped you would read it. You might want to jump back to other blog a take a look. I think it was around 1:00 am or so.
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I did see it this AM, then all heck broke loose on the job.

Pamela,

Being an atheist doesn’t blind me the the critical importance of faith in the lives of those around me.

Judea-Christian ethics are the very core of this nation. To me, it doesn’t matter where a person’s ethical and moral compass stems from, only that it exists and point towards love instead of hate.

I do have issues with some of the organized religions, but rarely ever with personal faith.
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Andy

I was under the impression you did appreciate people’s faith as a plus- I too agree Judea-Christain ethics are core of this nation. The American government was set up with these very basic ethics in mind (although they did realize as we do organized religions “have issues” as you say and as I have stated with my issues with them earlier). Ok I guess where I am going with this is..we both believe in the great right and importance to freedom…so where did the whole idea come from?…the declaration of independence the men who brought us this government based on Judea-Christain beliefs…just thinking maybe it is all tied together. Freedom is one of those “Good” things I was talking about earlier (good verses evil).. I am NOT judging you by any means ..I think you know I have great respect for your knowledge..just thinking it is all tied together. Now keep kicking butt on those liberals:)

 
Comment by RC MO.

Jake, We have China by the sack, and they know it . Have you ever heard of a boycot.

 
Comment by Jake

I wouldn’t call it a boycott, I would call it a recession!!!

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by jake
April 7th, 2008 at 2: