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More Trail Tale Troubles for Hillary

Hillary Clinton has taken to recounting a moving story of a pregnant but uninsured Ohio woman who was refused treatment by a local hospital because she couldn’t produce $100 up front — only to have that hospital and others spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to try in vain to save her life and that of her unborn child when she was brought back in an ambulance weeks later.

Clinton tells gasping crowds that the tragic tale is an example of a broken health care system. One of the hospitals in question, however, says it isn’t true.

Administrators at O’Bleness Memorial in Athens, OH tell the New York Times that Trina Bachtel, who worked at a local pizza parlor, did die last year, two weeks after her child was stillborn there. But they say they they did, in fact, offer her obstetric treatment — and what’s more, she was insured.

The hospital’s CEO Rick Castrop said “we implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story.” Officials also told the Times that Clinton’s campaign never called the hospital to ask whether the story was accurate.

Campaign spokesman Mo Elleithee says she’s merely recounting the story as it was told to her by a sheriff’s deputy, and that she had no reason to doubt his word. “If the hospital claims it didn’t happen that way, we certainly respect that and she won’t repeat the story,” he said.

Pointing out that candidates often retell stories they hear on the trail, Elleithee said “It’s not always possible to fully vet them, but we try. For example, medical records are confidential.”

“In this case, we tried but weren’t able to fully vet the story.”

Check out the last time she told the story in Grand Forks, ND last night.

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Comment by june

You know if you can’t more than this to comment on then you ae digging deep to find something about a person. Why don’t you look into the Obama trail..

 
Comment by Andylit

Comment by june
April 5th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

You know if you can’t more than this to comment on then you ae digging deep to find something about a person. Why don’t you look into the Obama trail..
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And if you don’t understand why this is important, you are missing the boat.

The Banshee want to turn our healthcare system into a Canadian clone. She can’t find any real reasons to do it, so she makes up lies to support her idiotic plan.

 
Comment by profitleads

Stop repeating it because it isn’t true? Since when did that ever matter to a Clinton? What a hoot. She’ll continue to repeat it, true or not, as long as she thinks she can get some political mileage out of it. People will believe just about anything that they want to believe, true or not. If they insisted on truth and did their own research, none of the three “major” candidates would be even be in Congress, much less in contention for the nomination of their party for president. It’s laughable….and sad. People get the politicians that they deserve; and they get it good and hard.

 
Comment by BROKE, DISGUSTED AND CAN'T BE TRUSTED

FOUND THIS VERY INTERESTING IN AN ANOTHER BLOG:

Comment by Mark Epstein
April 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
ladies and gentlemen, is Sean Han*ity a “CLOSET DEMOCRAT” ? They should have Tanya Riemann look at his body language. I am a conservative guy to the core, but sean seems to be faking/fooling people for his obvious benefits (monetary).

what do my true conservative friends think about this?? conservatives only, NOT republicans.

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Comment by True Reagan American
April 5th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Comment by Mark Epstein
April 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
ladies and gentlemen, is Sean Han*ity is a “CLOSET DEMOCRAT” ? They should have Tanya Riemann look at his body language. I am a conservative guy to the core, but sean seems to be faking/fooling people for his obvious benefits (monetary).

what do my true conservative friends think about this?? conservatives only, NOT republicans.
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Good observation, never thought about it. I’ll start paying more attention from now on. The only conservative guy (sometimes goes pretty ballistic) i found was Dr. Michael S*Vage. Like to listen to him, he enriches my knowledge about America and the World.

 
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Comment by MARINE

I think John McCain is a true patriot. Hillary gets A + for her patriotism, but Obama not sure.

I am a former marine who was stationed in many countries. I heard Obama pronunciating Iraq, Iran and Pakistan as the locals in those country would say it. i was impressed. So, I did a little research and found that his mother lived and worked for the WORLD’S LARGEST MUSLIM COUNTRY (Indonesia) and also she worked as a consultant to the WORLD’S ONLY NUCLEAR MUSLIM COUNTRY (Pakistan). Thats not so impressive.

Obama cites his mother to be an inspiration. I would raise a red-flag on his judgment/patriotism if his mother is his role model in POLITICS.

 
Comment by sjl

How does the hospital know that the deputy sheriff was talking about the same woman? In the NYTs article no family member or the deputy sheriff confirmed the hospital was talking about the same woman and hospital. the deputy nor Hillary ever said the woman’s name (in any of the speeches she has given) or the name of the hospital, so how is this confirmed as the same person? Any ways this isn’t Hillary’s fault, she often talks of stories she is told by people and if you can’t trust a law enforcement officer who can you trust?

 
Comment by MARINE

Comment by True Reagan American
April 5th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

Comment by Mark Epstein
April 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

ladies and gentlemen, is Sean Han*ity is a “CLOSET DEMOCRAT” ? They should have Tanya Riemann look at his body language. I am a conservative guy to the core, but sean seems to be faking/fooling people for his obvious benefits (monetary).

what do my true conservative friends think about this?? conservatives only, NOT republicans.
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Good observation, never thought about it. I’ll start paying more attention from now on. The only conservative guy (sometimes goes pretty ballistic) i found was Dr. Michael S*Vage. Like to listen to him, he enriches my knowledge about America and the World.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm……………….

 
Comment by Matthew Lukic, OH

Mr. MARINE, awesome observation.

Awesome.

 
Comment by Matthew Lukic, OH

I get tired of people posting a whole essay about candidates on the blog. As a voter, i need a brief explanation about the candidates. i would give up on taking a dump after 20 minutes if nothing’s happening, nevertheless read a whole essay.

Mr. MARINE yours was short and upto the point. i will start reading your posts.

 
Comment by Sue

I was at Grand Forks, ND lastnight and saw both Obama and Hillary. I cannot believe
people are negative over this part of a wonderful wonderful speech she gave. I asked over
50 people while we were leaving who they learned the most from - HILLARY.
Go to http://www.grandforksherald.com and look at the poll they are taking. Hillary is winning
by a long shot. Obama talked of hopes and dreams. Hillar of SOLUTIONS and they were
powerful. She also talked respectful of John McCain.
So people find something else to try to pick her apart.
How about this on OBAMA:
Rezko Controversy - Headache for Obama (it is just beginning to come out)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/04/opinion/main3994002.shtml

 
Comment by MSNBC/CNN in tank for OBAMA

It is true that MSNBC/ CNN is in tank for OBAMA. Chris Matthews slobers whenever Obama opens his mouth. Rachel Maddow/ Richard Wolffe/….. talk about politics at MSNBC. Good Grief. Bill Gates should step in and pull the MS out of MSNBC.

FOXN*WS changed its side from Mitt Rumney to JOHN MCCAIN. I remember Sean Han*ity and others trying to put Sen. McCain out of the race by taking stands with Mitt. JOHN MCCAIN is a great individual. He gets my vote.

I feel sorry for HILLARY that she doesn’t have a media back up. But still this woman wins all big states. I prefer McCain over her, but she is a fighter. Gotta give her that.

 
Comment by christine

What about the story now out there about her being fired years ago as an attorney for lying and promoting unethical behavior that could have gotten her dis-barrred had the case (Nixon) gone forward? This hospital story is interesting but it could also be an honest mistake on her campaign’s part — but the fact she was fired for something like lying and unethical legal behavior is much more important!

 
Comment by Paul

How does the hospital know that the deputy sheriff was talking about the same woman? In the NYTs article no family member or the deputy sheriff confirmed the hospital was talking about the same woman and hospital. the deputy nor Hillary ever said the woman’s name (in any of the speeches she has given) or the name of the hospital, so how is this confirmed as the same person? Any ways this isn’t Hillary’s fault, she often talks of stories she is told by people and if you can’t trust a law enforcement officer who can you trust?

THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER KNOWS WHO HE IS SO COME ON OUT AND TELL US IF THIS IS HOW SHE HEARD IT. AND IF THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN WHY WASN’T THE HOSPITAL FINDED. AND WHY DIDN’T THE LAW ENFORMENT OFFICER TELL SOME SOME ABOUT IT SO SHE COULD GET HELP. OR IS IT JUST ANOTHER LIE TO DECEIVE THE PEOPLE AND GET VOTES

 
Comment by LeAnn

MSNBC/CNN in tank for OBAMA i agree with your comment 90%. But we differ in our candidates, i prefer Hillary over McCain. I like McCain but kinda skeptical if he is gonna repeat the same old 8 yrs of current presidency. lets be honest, the past 5 years (starting with war in Iraq) has been terrible. Can’t afford more of that.

 
Comment by june

Andylit ‘
I think she has less to be nitpicked than Obama , seems people just forgive him for his misunderstanding when he gets something wrong.

 
Comment by Mike

To christine
Now that they no longer have the media on there side you might hear that story at an appropriate time. Politics are all about timing.

 
Comment by MSNBC/CNN in tank for OBAMA

LeAnn, you know its a healthy democratic government when people can agree to disagree on a few issues. i respect your point of view, but still think McCain is a better choice.

 
Comment by Mike

To June
It’s all media perseption. Media wants Obama, Tired of Hillary, And it’s sad that the Media has the power to sway public opinion.

 
Comment by LeAnn

Comment by MARINE
April 5th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I think John McCain is a true patriot. Hillary gets A + for her patriotism, but Obama not sure.

I am a former marine who was stationed in many countries. I heard Obama pronunciating Iraq, Iran and Pakistan as the locals in those country would say it. i was impressed. So, I did a little research and found that his mother lived and worked for the WORLD’S LARGEST MUSLIM COUNTRY (Indonesia) and also she worked as a consultant to the WORLD’S ONLY NUCLEAR MUSLIM COUNTRY (Pakistan). Thats not so impressive.

Obama cites his mother to be an inspiration. I would raise a red-flag on his judgment/patriotism if his mother is his role model in POLITICS.
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Never knew about this part of Obama’s life. I will never vote for him anyways, but your comment opened my eyes a little further.

 
Comment by Mike

To MSNBC/CNN in tank for OBAMA
McCain is the only choice. Dems like to talk about how the war is bankrupting us, tell me what there plan is going to cost, and where they plan on getting the money.

 
Comment by rbrannan

Obama should have vetted, before he repeated and repeated, his patriotic stump speech story about how his dad from Kenya was only able to come to America due to President JFK program–when this program only came into existence around TWO YEARS after his dad was already in America ! It’s understandable that Hillary would trust repeating the law, the sheriff deputy. What hat did Obama pull out his story? Maybe he can blame it on granny and throw her under the bus again!

 
Comment by Sue

When Obama spoke yesterday he absolutely said nothing. I just couldn’t believe how people
cheered. It is like they are all in a trance. He only spoke maybe 20 minutes and just left.
I stood there and thought I did not learn a thing.

Hillary came and spoke at 8:20 PM because she had spoke at the Martin Luther King Doings in
Atlanta (Obama was asked but wouldn’t do it) She spoke for over an hour and then stayed and
did pictures and signed autographs. What an amazing women. She really loves America!!!!
I think Obama loves himself.

 
Comment by rbrannan

Sue: That should be a new slogan: Hillary loves America! Obama loves himself!

 
Comment by PATRICK HENRY

Sue says ,”I cannot believe people are negative over this part of a wonderful wonderful speech she gave”. Yes Sue, we need a good speech maker as POTUS. That is far more important than telling the truth. Loooool.

 
Comment by Jean

will tell you a story that really happened. I was working at Carthage hospital on the grave yard shift. When a woman came in and her baby was being born the real sad part about it is she had just left the other hospital and thy turned her away. Her baby was born at 26 weeks I believe. She weighed just over 2 lbs. The mother was bleeding heavily. While I was taking care of her the other nurses were taking care of the baby. Now do you want to know why she was turned away at the other hospital because she didn’t have insurance. How sad and WRONG. Well Ido have a happy ending to this story. The baby girl lived and the last time I seen her she was 4 years old and doing great GOD Bless all the nurses that helped that night. Jean

 
Comment by Independent

Obama loves the Great Rev. (Doctor) Wright. Where is Rev. Wright?

 
Comment by PATRICK HENRY

Hillary’s nose is getting bigger than der shlickmiester’s.

 
Comment by college grads for obama 08

I’m graduating from college and me and everybody educated are voting Obama becasue he’s change you can believe in. He got us all fired up about how we are the one’s worth waiting for and we love him over that witch. We identify with Obama and his wife becasue they seemed like they was cool in school with stories of him doing coke and just experimenting in life. The Clinton crazies here are old hypocrites who can’t be real about doing dope like Obama can but I bet they did it! And Obama’s got the backs of the poor people and minorites who need more welfare and big gov’t programs because they can’t get the good jobs. And we’ll have medical care and more planned parenthood choices so we can do whatever we want to care for our bodies without having cosnervatives push old-school religion values in our faces. He’ll do more to make friends with our enemies by talkign to them and making deals with them because he is willing to compromise everything to buy peace for the world. Something Mccain is afraid of or the hypocrite lady.

Step aside lyer Clinton. This is the new generation of voters who will never vote for your vision becasue you are out of touch with our mentalities. Obama connects with us becasue he thinks like us. And you’re all racists who can;’t see this.

 
Comment by Jean

Go Hillary I believe in you. I know you want to help people in America, now Obama who knows maybe his agenda I know it’s not the aerican peope. Jean

 
Comment by Independent

It was certainly nice to see that Obama and the Clinton’s were able to take advantage of the Bush Tax Cuts I would imagine the Clinton’s made an extra 5 - 10 million over a six or seven year period as a result of the the Bush Tax Cuts … Obama probably a few hundred thousand last year … Rev. Wright, don’t believe he pays taxes … most of his income is funneled through his church so he probably ends up paying nothing.

At least the Clintons gave 10 million to charities over six or seven years.

 
Comment by PATRICK HENRY

Comment by MARINE
April 5th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I think John McCain is a true patriot. Hillary gets A + for her patriotism, but Obama not sure.

I am a former marine who was stationed in many countries. I heard Obama pronunciating Iraq, Iran and Pakistan as the locals in those country would say it. i was impressed. So, I did a little research and found that his mother lived and worked for the WORLD’S LARGEST MUSLIM COUNTRY (Indonesia) and also she worked as a consultant to the WORLD’S ONLY NUCLEAR MUSLIM COUNTRY (Pakistan). Thats not so impressive.

Obama cites his mother to be an inspiration. I would raise a red-flag on his judgment/patriotism if his mother is his role model in POLITICS.

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Marine,
I think he is not a true patriot in many ways, as likewise with Pres. Bush. Would a true patriot be in favor of illegal amnesty? Would a true patriot be in favor of breaking the 1st Amendment with “campaign reform”?

 
Comment by Jim

This is getting comical. Everything that comes of out the woman’s mouth is a lie. She needs to shut up and go home.

 
Comment by Independent

college grads for Obama 08.

Could you please inform us as to the name of college from which you will be graduating … if you can graduate based on the grammatical skills, or the lack of them, in your comment, I want to make sure my grandchildren don’t attend that particular college.

 
Comment by Jean

ey college grad. for Obama ho old are you TWO because that’s what you sound like are you still sucking on mama’s tit. Probably!!! You need to grow up little girl because your kind is going to really hurt ths country because you are to silly and to young to make an informed vote You don’t know what you are doing so I forgive you now go home like a good little girl. Jean

 
Comment by AJ, Boston

Marine, comments basing your opinion on a man’s patriotism on the resume of his mother are quite a stretch. His mother is an inspiration because she birthed and raised him to be a strong man in the face of adversity.

I question your relationship with your mother if you can’t understand that.

 
Comment by Jean

Excuse me the H in Hey didn’t come up and also the h in how. GO HILLARY!!!! Jean

 
Comment by Jim

Independent and Jean are clearly Hillary supporters. This is evidenced by their low IQ and inability to realize that college grads for Obama was being humorous.

 
Comment by AJ, Boston

College Grad for Obama 08,
I don’t think your fooling anyone as an Obama supporter, your comment screams desperate Clinton supporter all over it, give it up and learn to use basic English.

 
Comment by Independent

There is certainly nothing humorous about Obama or the Great Rev. Wright. No, I have never voted for a Clinton and probably never will. Sorry Jimmy. Still waiting for a reply on the name of that college. Could you help Jimmy?

 
Comment by Jean

Excuse me but this low IQ person helped saved many lives I think it take a few brain cells to know what to do in a code do you doubtful you don’t have the brain cells for it. So before yu say somthing you should know hat you are talkng about by the wayhow old are yu for a commnt like that you sound like a kid. hs is for Jim the loud mouth with he foot in it. Go Hillary and only you. Jean

 
Comment by DB

It’s not an IQ issue, it’s the ability to believe whatever your candidate says as truth. Both Hillary and Barack supporters have this capability and they show their blind support in these blogs.

 
Comment by AJ, Boston

Jean, I know you are desperate to help your candidate but you obviously didn’t read the article fully, either that or the hospital is lying and only you and Hillary know the true story.

As stated above:
“Administrators at O’Bleness Memorial in Athens, OH tell the New York Times that Trina Bachtel, who worked at a local pizza parlor, did die last year, two weeks after her child was stillborn there. ”

You should know, being a nurse and all that STILLBORN means pronounced deceased shortly after birth. You might want to head back to school to catch up on the basics and like Hillary stop telling stories, the truth always comes to light.

 
Comment by Jim

Jean,

I stand by what I said. Oh, and by the way, did you save those lives while you were under sniper fire?

 
Comment by Elaine Wilson

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE COLLEGE GRADS FOR OBAMA NEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN ENGLISH . YOUR GOAL IS MORE WELFARE? INTERESTING! YOU WANT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE MORE EDUCATED? THAT IS INTERESTING TOO.
GO HILLARY!

 
Comment by JSmith

All those Democrats wanting to vote for McCain over Hillary really ought to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o&feature=related

Nough said, Now tell me where is the sexism in McCain’s camp or in Media?

Come November, most democrats will stand for any Democrat not McCain, a proven war monger, a self confessed economic amatuer, a very old man.

Someone once said “Its Economy stupid”

Obama 08.

 
Comment by Jean

Believe it or not I don’t believe everything they say. I just believe more of what HILLARY says OBAMA is getting a free ride with the media and I have heard him LIE LIE LIE again and again. But let Hillary even be mistaken and that’s all you hear is how she is lieing for days on end. It gets very old. So yes Hillary has my vote. Not only that when Clinton was in office times were a hell of a lot better I don’t care what anyone says different because they do not know what they are talking about. Jean

 
Comment by DB

JSMITH,

I’m sure you believe that most will stand with a Democrat as opposed to McCain, but as he is a moderate, often more left then right, and both dems propose some 750 billion dollars of increased spending, I think you may be wrong. That fact alone, plus Obamas troubling relationships with Rev Wright, Mr Rezko, and Mr Ayers may just mean McCain will be our next President.

 
Comment by DB

Jean,

There is little doubt Obama was given a free ride for a long time and yes the media was and is slanted for Obama, but things have changed a bit. The facts about Obama are coming out and the media is being forced to cover it. The problem is it may be too late for Hillary who has her own issues and just always seems to say something stupid when she doesn’t need to say anything at all. Perfect example was her Bosnia gaff. Barack was drowning with the Rev Wright issue and with one simple statement from her trying to make herself look more worldly, she allowed the waters subside for Obama enabling him to get his feet back under him.

 
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http://www.webtrec.com/hillary

 
Comment by Jean

Hey Jim you are getting younger and younger by the minute are you thnking about your Cult leader when you make stupid comment like that. Sure sounds like it. you need to go home to mama and tell her to teach you some manners because you have none. But of course I don’t expect someone that is a Obama cult follower to understand about manners. Jean

 
Comment by JSmith

For Hillary Clinton her mouth is her Reverand Wright. What ever she says really makes every cringe. She is such a big fake.

McCain, is nothing but a flat out old man, who keeps flip flopping…. well some say its his age. Its really gonna be fun watching McCain this campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI&feature=related
We report you decide!

A vote for McCain = vote for a war monger who voted for a costly war on the flimsiest reasons, that is only going increase our national debt, and breed more terrorists in a region already antagonistic to Americans. And hear hear McCain wants to keep us there for another 100 years, a place where locals overwhelmingly hate the occupation by Americans.

A Vote for McCain = vote for a self confessed economic imbecile, who will continue the failed economic policies of Bush administration that has pushed our debt to stratoshpheric levels, that has created record trade deficit, that encourages the rich to indulge in themselves when our nations economy tanks, that wants to pay for our short fall in taxes by borrowing from chinese so that our children and grand children will pay the burden of our spendthriftiness.

A vote for McCain = vote for an old man, who at age 72 will only be 3 years away from statistical life expectancy of an average male in America. At age 72 McCain would have been well advised to retire gracefully, yet he chooses to keep personal ambition above America’s collective good. At age 72 he will become the oldest president of United States of America.

 
Comment by RJO

Hillary has been caught AGAIN. Does she ever check her facts or is her whole platform based on solving problems that exist only in someone’s imagination.

 
Comment by Jean

This is for the idiot that said I should get my story straight about the stllborn baby. I was not talking about the woman in Ohio are wherever. This happened in Carhage Tennessee. So excuse me I don’t make a habit of lying that really did happen. What I was refering to was things like that do happen when people don’t have insurance because I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Jean

 
Comment by Jean

DB I agree that she made a big blunderwith the comment about Bosnia but I really don’t hold it against her. Jean

 
Comment by DB

JSMITH,

You’re last blog is simply silly. All the candidates have voted in support of the war since they were able too. Barack’s only claim to fame in this regard was the fact he wasn’t in the Senate when the war started and thus he didn’t get to vote. As luck would have it though, his votes concerning the war have been consistent with both Hillary and McCain and there is little reason to believe he’d have been any different then the rest as even Kennedy voted for it.

As for the national debt, Obama is clearly going to increase the debt or renig on his promises. His proposals are 750 billion more annually then the present budget and he can not account for about 600 billion dollars of it. That means he will either raise the deficit another 2.4 trillion or not do any of the things he’s promising. He’s a fraud.

As for McCains statement, it is true he said he needs to brush up on the economy but let me ask you, what is Baracks experience? I don’t believe he ever ran a business, sought a degree in economics, or even balanced a budget outside of his own. So tell me, what experience does he have????

 
Comment by Marcia

Marine,
Obama’s mother is the daughter of a military dad and a well written and educated woman. She moved to Hawii to attend the University of Hawaii where she studied anthropology. Obama’s mother met her Indonesian husband while at the University of Hawaii campus at the East-West Center which is an education and research organization established by the US Congress to strengthen relations and understandings among the peoples of nations of Asia, the Pacific and the United States. After they met, they married and moved to Jakarta. There she became an anthropologist and wrote an 800-page dissertation on peasant blacksmithing in Java, worked for the Ford Foundation, championed women’s work, and helped bring microcredit to the world’s poor.

She had high expectations for her children. In Indonesia, she would wake her son at 4 a.m. for correspondence courses in English before school; she brought home recordings of Mahalia Jackson, speeches by Martin Luther King. And when Obama asked to stay in Hawaii for high school rather than return to Asia, she accepted living apart - a decision her daughter says was one of the hardest in her life.

She died of ovarian cancer in 1995.

Where as you may feel his world experience or that of his mother is a detriment, I believe that it gives him a unique world view and perspective. And could possibly aid him in building a better foreign policy, diplomacy, and strengthening the rest of the world’s perception of America. Not to mention, and as you have stated, he can at least pronounce foreign countries correctly.

His mother, in my view, looks to be a good role model, why is “red-flag” (as you put it) raised about Obama’s mother?

 
Comment by KMB08

Headlines are such powerful persuaders, aren’t they? Wonder why Hillary’s negatives are high, and wonder why people think she’s dishonest. Try investigating any other person to the extent Hillary has been investigated, and I don’t think you could find a person at the top of the political game, who would come out looking any more honest.

The headline could have just as easily read…”Obama lies again about lobbyists’ involvement in campaign”, or “Obama lies again about Rezko connection”, or “Obama lies about taking money from employees of oil and gas indus.”, or “Obama earned reputation of “gutless” and “absent” in Il. Senate”, or “Obama, why must you be so disingenuous about your true intentions”, or “Obama, ambitious, yes…tough, no”, and the list could go on and on….Headlines such as these would quickly earn Obama the moniker of “dishonest”. The media is oh so powerful !!!

I personally think Hillary is honest, or at least as honest as the average citizen in this country. It’s true….Hillary is part of the Washinton scene, but whether we like it or not, this is a necessary evil in order to be an affective leader.

Voters say they want to hear the truth, but the truth isn’t always rosy, and it often requires sacrifice…the minute a politician starts telling voters the complete truth, is the minute voters run the other way. We, the voters, are partly to blame for politicians being just that…politicians..

Give Hillary a dang break!!! Put the microscope on someone else’s politican family for a decade or so…..See how sparkly clean they’ll appear.

HRC ‘08

 
Comment by DB

Comment by Jean
April 5th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
DB I agree that she made a big blunderwith the comment about Bosnia but I really don’t hold it against her. Jean
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Jean,

I don’t hold it against her either as ALL politicians do it, but if not for her mistake, Obama might have fallen for good.

 
Comment by Tony

Hilary Clinton and the Clinton lie machine will do anything, including lie, to get a political advantage. No one seems to realize that candidate make mistakes, they are human, but then it boils down to trust.

Can you trust Hilary to tell the American people the truth? Just like GW Bush and his weapons of mass distraction. These are politicians who distort the truth in the belief that they are doing the right thing.The war started with a lie do we want our next president to start his or her presidency with a lie? These lies may be small and don’t impact national security but small lies can become big lies……….At least Obama has the decency to own up to his own discretions. Hilary attempts to distort the truth about her lies…..

 
Comment by Independent

I think those “college grads for Obama 08″ must be some of Obama’s Affirmative Action people … or maybe they’re just supporters of the Great Rev. (Doctor) Wright.

 
Comment by DB

Tony,

I couldn’t disagree with you more regarding Obama. He simply untrustworthy, never tells anyone anything until he’s caught up in a lie or situation, and has shown himself to be potentially anti-American.

 
Comment by Jean

DB you are probably right. I just don’t undersand how the media can be so ugly to Hillary and then there is Obama with lie after lie and they act like he’s MR. Clean. Jean

 
Comment by tom in pa

i wish they would focus on the other two candidates like they do hillary…i think all the pa poles are taken in the cities and college areas and its a ploy to make everone think pa is for obama…i urge all dems who are for hillary to stay the course and push for her the media wants her out…she can beat mccain i know the republicans are just waiting..don’t let the media sway you ..please vote from your heart

 
Comment by Independent

DB:

I don’t think he is “potentially anti-American” … he is anti-American. And he supports an Anti-American, Black Racist by the name Rev. (Doctor) Wright.

 
Comment by Tony

Obama and his connection with Rezko pales in comparison with the numerous Clinton scandals ( travelgate, whitewater, etc etc)

A couple of thing you don’t know about the Obama-Rezko misunderstanding:
Chicago Sun-Times

1. They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

2. Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers — primarily not-for-profit groups — building low-income housing with government funds.

3. One of the firm’s not-for-profit clients — the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama’s then-boss Allison Davis — was partners with Rezko’s company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator’s time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko’s company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm’s clients in four later deals — none of which involved Obama……..

Get the record straight!

 
Comment by tom in pa

i think tony’s on drugs

 
Comment by JSmith

DB,

Atleast, senators like Hillary Clinton admitted, that her worst mistake in her political life was voting for War in Iraq (She said that in her last debate with Obama). Many senators who voted for war have lived to regret their decision. Yet we have this McCain who will continue to be shameless and keep us there if things go his way for another 100 years.

McCain, voted not just for the war, but McCain continues to espouse that same flawed Republican “who is the Alpha male” philosophy of fighting a war on the flimsiest of the grounds no matter what the cost, no matter what the cost to our economy, no matter how much debt we incur in the process, no matter how much hatred it breeds of America, in the lands where we are fighting this flimsy war.

He will leave us there for an undetermined amount of time. He espouses a policy which will continue our presence in a place where most locals overwhelmingly consider American presence as an occupation and who just plain flat out want us out.

McCain wants to continue our presence in a place that was and continues to be antagonistic to Americans. McCain wants to pursue the same flawed Republican foreign policy that breeds more terrorists than we end up killing.

A vote for McCain = a vote for spreading our military thin for ages.
A vote for McCain = a vote for spending beyond our means for an undetermined period of time to fund the unwinnable war in Iraq.
A vote for McCain = a vote for a war monger.

 
Comment by DB

Jean,

I know it’s difficult for you to see the media attack Hillary but this has been happening to the republicans for years. I do empathasize though and just wish the media could report the facts and stop trying to slant public opinion.

 
Comment by Tony

Tom in Pa:

Not focused on Obama????? You want more focus on Obama??

I have seen the Jeremiah Wright clip for 3 weeks straight…I have his sermon memorized…… The Bosnia lie didnt last in the headlines for a week

 
Comment by Independent
 
Comment by tom in pa

thats the problem there is so much we don’t know about obama and it will come out …one thing i know he’s going to owe a lot of senators and black leaders …and all his political backers are tied to special interest…this guy casn lie like the best and he doesn’t have to answer to anything…which is more than i can say for hillary.

 
Comment by Jean

I think we stepped on cult leader supporter’s toes. So Tony what did he do with the rest of the donations from rezko he only sent back 81000 of over 11000 or so that he got from him. You know that he would make the worst president just your male ego won’t admit it. Jean

 
Comment by Marcia

INDEPENDENT,

Comment by Independent
April 5th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

I think those “college grads for Obama 08″ must be some of Obama’s Affirmative Action people … or maybe they’re just supporters of the Great Rev. (Doctor) Wright.
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What do you mean by some of Obama’s Affirmative Action people? Who is that?

 
Comment by TRUTH-BE-KNOWN

JSMITH-http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/08/obama_stance_on_iraq_shows_evolving_view/

 
Comment by Tony

Hilary has been running a slanderous campaign from day one of her campaign:

The media hasnt been attacking Hilary but reporting what everyone wants to hear…

 
Comment by tom in pa

as well that it shouldn’t for people to compare the two is ridiculous the wright thing is way more important specially when you add in the fact that obama lookup to him so………thats a big lack of judgement and while obamamight not be getting special interest money he is getting it from thier ceo’s and thier employees..also look at his ties to the state of black union and how he shyed away from them while they were bashing whitey…

 
Comment by tom in pa

is tony from this planet the media has beenm bashing hillary forever do you own a t.v.?

 
Comment by Jack Thomas

April 25th, April 25th , April 25th, 2008

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil

Type case number to link above

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Who is Peter Paul and what is the link search You tube