OBAMA MUST APOLOGIZE TO SEN. McCAIN !!

I wish he would call for more condemnation, Obama must go!!!!!!

Hey redneck, you still here?

Guess not ,I’ll catch you later…..GDO BLESS

Here is the real McPain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI and is not a warmonger but an unstable person!

I was at the Democractic Rally lastnight in Grand Forks, ND. I saw Obama speak and Hillary Clinton speak. Obama was not impressive at all. It is the same old hopes, dreams, etc. He gave quotes from Martin Luther King but did he go speak in Altanta yesterday at the MLK Program???
NO!!!!! But Hillary did!!!!! That is why she didn’t speak at our rally till 8:30 PM. When Hillary spoke
it was absolutely wonderful. She gave solutions to our problems. She told when, how and where the money would come from. She spoke over an hour. She won my husbands vote. He said, “Donate $500.00 to that lady!! She knows what she is talking about.” One thing I like about Hillary and John McCain is that they do respect one another. They even have worked well together
across the isle in the senate!!! OBAMA is a nobody. He should have a reality show or something.

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McCain has class!
Each time there is a misunderstanding, he handles it himself.
Obama sent some flunkie to give a non-apology, for a slanderous comment!
That is rude and insincere!

No, McCain is not a warmonger. He is just wrong about the war in Iraq. What outcome can we expect from this war? If the Sunnis are left to govern the country, then that would be in effect giving the country back to the same people we removed from power. If the Shiites are left in charge, they are aligned with Iran. After 5 years and over 4000 US troops dead, we are no closer to resolving the issue with these to factions. In fact, because of our interference, we now have a third faction, al-Queda. Our presence has only caused situation in that country to be worse. I suspect that, if we stay muck longer, the situation will get worse.

It is also clear to me that, WHENEVER we leave the situation will get worse.

There is no good solution to this situation, but at least when we leave, our troops will not have to fight and die for a cause that is not theirs.

obama must go

Calling McCain a Warmonger is like calling Spade a Spade. McCain voted for a War on the flimsiest reason, and at worse helped launched a war on a LIE.

McCain continues to support this costly war even when everyone knows that the overall cost of the war in the grand scheme of things is going to be trillions dollars in direct or indirect impact. McCain certainly is a Warmonger.

If given a chance will keep us there for a 100 years. He wants to keep us there in a place where people overwhelmingly dont want Americans to be there. McCain certainly is a WARMONGER.

McCain is a warmonger, because for him it is just a joke to Bomb bomb bomb Iran.

Obama need not apologize. Stop shedding crocodile tear Republicans, McCain is indeed a war monger.

i hope these pa polls are wrong its up to us to change this election for the better

obama will pardon a cop killer if elected

He isn’t a war monger. you are just stuck on the word. If we have to be in a war to save our nation, so be it. Rather there then here.
Our stategy for the war is …We win, they lose.
Obama will not get the nom. Hillary will see to that. And if he did, he would never win the General. He’s changing his tune any way. Now saying it would be 18 months after being sworn in before starting to bring back some troops. Well, duh, they would be coming back by then any way.
Some people are so narrow minded they can’t think any further than the next sound bite.
McCain 08

i think mr obama should apologize to mr. mccain,

i am so happy some of you people are starting to see the real mr obama, no
he never says he mis spoke or i was wrong or i lied, he gets his flunkies to do the
work for him, no backbone! i say.

we are working our butts off for mrs clinton but what gets me is how the media keeps
bashing her and gives mr obama a pass. i say we blog the media to death! and say
lay off! what do you say?

hillary clinton has a plan for our economy, our healthcare, our national security
and jobs, jobs, jobs. we have to all work together to get her over this hump,
she never quits, i do not think we should!

if you get a chance read mr obamas book “dreams of my father” it will turn
your stomach! i am so happy this campaign is still chugging along, cause the
longer it goes the more you all will see who mr obama really is!

mr obama disrespected mr mccain and should give him a public apology mr
mccain is a war hero he deserve all the respect in the world!

We truly need McCain who is a straight talker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

God Bless America.

Will Hillary Clinton supporters still vote for McCain over Obama? Here is the answer, watch what McCain has to say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o&feature=related

Obama came up through the ranks of the corrupt political machine of Cook County, in large part due to Obama’s very close ties to Rezco and his ilk. So if McCain thinks Obama and his camp have any intention of playing fair, as McCain wants to do, McCain will be in for a big surprise. Further, Obama’s supporters have been conned into thinking that if Obama is elected the bulk of the higher taxes he is proposing will go to Obama’s favored social programs. No, no, no , instead, the bulk of the higher taxes may well find their way into the pockets of favored Rezko like associates, corrupt politicians and State workers. State workers and corrupt politicians who will sit a top their thrones in Washington DC and trickle down what is left over to the rest of us serfs at the bottom. Of course in order to get any of what’s left over, we will all be required to adhere to the edicts from the State that have the power of law behind them; to run our lives.

You are say you support McCain but his campaign has not raised much money. Is all you want to do is run down Obama? How many Obama supporters do you think are reading this crap. The same thing is repeated over and over, like you’re trying to convince yourself. I’m sure Obama supporters could care less. They are not here and if they were they won’t believe it. We need to be about supporting our candidate. I don’t mean to sound mean but I’m tired of hearing people preach to the choir and seeing McCain raising far less money than the other candidates. If we believe in our candidate he should be raising much more than the others. Money Talks, BS Walks.

“He isn’t a war monger. you are just stuck on the word. If we have to be in a war to save our nation, so be it. Rather there then here”

Save our nation? Lol, you really think that this war in Iraq was to save our nation…. First it was based on the flimsy reason that it was WMD, when that was not found there it was Al Qaeda.

Well, let me tell you this, Iraq didnt invade America, niether was Al Qaeda in Iraq before Bush invaded Iraq, in all his Imbecility. Bush by acting like a Don Quixote attacking every windmill bearing the name of Al Qaeda, has festered more hatred for America, in a region which breeds terror.

By invading Iraq, Bush has made America, that much more unsafe. Whats worse is that Bush has left us in an unwinnable war, costing Billions of dollars that our kids and grandkids will have to repay.

McCain supported this war based on Lies and at best flimsy reasons. If McCain has his way he will keep us there for a 100years, in a region where most people do not want Americans occupying their land.

Yes McCain is a warmonger. He is a GRADE A warmonger, who will continue this occupation for as long as it takes.

To Tom in PA
everytime I hear someone defending Hillary, or saying she can still win, all I hear is CLEAR.
you know that thing a doctor says just before they hit the patient with the defibulator.
please leave Hillaryland and come back to the truth.

Obama is so bad for the US wake up everyone!

For all those Hillary Clinton supporters who are going to vote for McCain over Obama:

this will be an eyeopener for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o&feature=related

Democrats, come elections will not vote for some one who does not know about economics. As Bill Clinton said: Its economy stupid, all those Democrats who go about claiming they will vote for MCain over Obama, will realize this soon.

McCain stands for tax cuts for the rich, continued war in Iraq, fiscal irresponsibilty of spending more than we earn, and some one who is plain flat out too OLD to run for presidency.

Obama 08.

Comment by JSmith *** you are so uneducated and clueless!

SOURCES

Jsmith, Tim and all the rest of you libs.

You step up and spout rhetoric as if it were gospel. You throw around generalizations, exaggerations and just plain lies. You claim all this as FACT, yet you fail to EVER provide documentation, sources, credible experts, nothing.

In these so-called debates, you have been presented with documented, verifiable facts over and over. You have been offered source after source to investigate.

And what do you offer? More rhetoric, more pronouncements.

Get real. Get some sources out here to back up your garbage.

For all those Republicans who think McCain is a straight talker this is something for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

Check out how much straight talking McCain does. McCain will be exposed for how Old he has really become.

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

For all those Hillary Clinton supporters who are going to vote for McCain over Obama:

this will be an eyeopener for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o&feature=related
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What is your point with this video. He was obviously taken aback by the comment and then did his best to pretty much defuse it.

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

For all those Republicans who think McCain is a straight talker this is something for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

Check out how much straight talking McCain does. McCain will be exposed for how Old he has really become.
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Nice slice and dice. Some good points on his some of his gaffes or flips, but a lot of diddling the context on some clips.

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Hey JSmith,

How about some clips of BO and his…errors.

I never heard those words.

Ok, I heard a little.

All right, I was there for the bad stuff, but I don’t agree with it.

Aah there you are Andylit, we meet again! you said:

“SOURCES

Jsmith, Tim and all the rest of you libs.

You step up and spout rhetoric as if it were gospel. You throw around generalizations, exaggerations and just plain lies. You claim all this as FACT, yet you fail to EVER provide documentation, sources, credible experts, nothing.
”

What kind of source you want, what I talk about McCain is all there for everyone to see. As plain as daylight.

What source do you need, when I say McCain is an old man, who will be 72 years when he will be elected president. If that happens it will be history, he will be older than Reagan when Reagan assumed his presidency.

What source do you need, when I say McCain voted for war in Iraq, supported by the flimsiest of the reasons - WMD which were never Found. Those that wage a war that too a very constly war which will affect the debt that we push on to the future generations, in a region that is extremely volatile without showing great responsibilty are WARMONGERS. What source do you need for me to prove you that?

What source do you need when I say McCain will continue supporting run of mill Republican Conservative policies of not taxing the Rich to balance our accounts?

What sources do you need when I say McCain is a Flip Flopper? Wanna watch this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

To andylit
Is my favorite political information desk now giving cooking advice. you horizons are endless.

obama and camp always lie and distort others words and meaning they have done it to Hillary to knock her down, its just to bad there are so many idiots in this country that believe everything they hear.

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

Aah there you are Andylit, we meet again! you said:

“SOURCES
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I said sources, not patch together Youtube political commercials.

Tell us all about BO’s nanny state programs. Have you researched them?

Tell us all about BO’s foreign policy advisors. Have you figured out yet that they are anti-Israel zealots?

You have presented us with 3 or 4 issues that McCain has over the last 8 years. Fair enough.

Is the confederate flag a big issue for the US President?

Was the context of his early war comments portrayed accurately, or was it distorted.

His “easy” comments referred to the initial invasion and removal of Saddam. He was correct. It was relatively easy. His later comments referenced the occupation and pacification.

Don’t forget who championed the change in policy on the ground a year before Bush would consider it.

By the way, The BO campaign has now categorically stated that McCain is not a warmonger. Since your candidate is alway right, you need to stop making that false claim.

Comment by Mike
April 5th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

To andylit
Is my favorite political information desk now giving cooking advice. you horizons are endless.
————–

125 F . When that baby hits 135 I AM OUT OF HERE, regardless of topic and intensity.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9427.shtml

To Andylit
Just watched the cutup pieced togather bunch of jibberish myself. these McCain haters are as funny as they are illinformed.

To Andylit
Only 3:30 here, My ribs got a few more hours

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml

AndyLit,

“Hey JSmith,

How about some clips of BO and his…errors.

I never heard those words.

Ok, I heard a little.

All right, I was there for the bad stuff, but I don’t agree with it.”
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This is what you get if you want politics of mudslingling. Right wing media loved to play this very base politics when they swift boated Kerry. The same thing was seen when Fox news played Rev Wright clips ad nausem without giving the context.

In response to that Obama came with a brilliant speech and took on the issue head on. Something which run of the mill politician are not capable. Yet why I am preaching to those who cannot listen, or who listen but do not understand.

If you want dirty politics, then be prepared to get what you guys dish out.

If you remove the politics of mudslinging, here we have a post racial candidate, running his campaign on optimisim hope (Audacity to hope), and intellect. Here we have a candidate who taught Constitutional Law for 12 years in America’s top law schools. Here we have a candidate who has inspired millions of people all along the land.

And all this frightens the conservatives. For they are afraid of change. Change is difficult yet it is necessary in the times we live. We live in an age of fear, an age of war, an age of tanking economy, an age of job losses. And in this age we need, we hope, we pray for a better future. Obama stands for that change.

A Change from 8 years of failed economics and a failed foreign policy. A change from 8 years of politics of fear. A change from 8 years of miserable policies of Republicans.

Obama 08.

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

Aah there you are Andylit, we meet again! you said:

“SOURCES

Jsmith, Tim and all the rest of you libs.

You step up and spout rhetoric as if it were gospel. You throw around generalizations, exaggerations and just plain lies. You claim all this as FACT, yet you fail to EVER provide documentation, sources, credible experts, nothing.
”

What source do you need, when I say McCain is an old man, who will be 72 years when he will be elected president. If that happens it will be history, he will be older than Reagan when Reagan assumed his presidency.

What source do you need, when I say McCain voted for war in Iraq, supported by the flimsiest of the reasons - WMD which were never Found. Those that wage a war that too a very constly war which will affect the debt that we push on to the future generations, in a region that is extremely volatile without showing great responsibilty are WARMONGERS. What source do you need for me to prove you that?
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Do you have medical records that indicate age is an issue for McCain?

As for “flimsy” reasons, at least you didn’t make the idiotic assertion that Bush lied.

FYI, if you bother to dig through the various news archives, you will discover some interesting facts about the “flimsy” evidence.

The intell was so strong and so convincing that the US, UK, French, German and even the Russian intelligence services were sure the WMD programs were in place and operational. Even the Russians have confirmed that they gave us data confirming the itell coming in from everywhere else.

McCain and every Senator who voted to authorize did the responsible thing, the correct thing, based on the best information available at the time.

If you have a problem with that kind of response, then you have a problem far beyond your political preferences.

To andylit
Don’t you wished people would get off the bit how Bush lied to the american people, because nobody is that good a liar to fool how many countries. The real problem was the post Saddam plan. That was as screwed up as a Hillary Clinton campaign.

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

AndyLit,

“Hey JSmith,

How about some clips of BO and his…errors.

I never heard those words.

Ok, I heard a little.

All right, I was there for the bad stuff, but I don’t agree with it.”
———————————————————————————

This is what you get if you want politics of mudslingling. Right wing media loved to play this very base politics when they swift boated Kerry. The same thing was seen when Fox news played Rev Wright clips ad nausem without giving the context.

In response to that Obama came with a brilliant speech and took on the issue head on. Something which run of the mill politician are not capable. Yet why I am preaching to those who cannot listen, or who listen but do not understand.
——————————————-

Good choices.

The vast majority of the men and officers who served with Kerry have confirmed the swift boat allegations, in person, first person accounts. Kerry has STILL refused to release his full military record file. That file will contain the proof, one way or another, of some of the most serious allegations that still linger.

There is no question he lied to get his purple hearts. He di so because he discovered that if you get 3 purple hearts in a year, you go home.

In one case, the man who was wounded along side him confirmed that it was Kerry’s own grenade fragment that hit him in the ass. There were no enemy anywhere nearby. Kerry threw a grenade into a VC rice cache. When the grenade blew, it hit both of them.

In another, he had a tiny metal sliver in his finger. he carefully did not dislodge the sliver until they returned to base. He presented himself to the base medic, who didn’t even bother with tweezers. he just popped it out with his fingers. No band aid needed. Kerry then presented his CO with a report requesting that he be put in for a Purple Heart. The CO was outraged and threw Kerry out of his office. Kerry subsequently submitted the same report to the next CO who signed off not knowing the actual nature of the wound.

On the other hand, we have Wright, on tiape, in person, confirmed, saying hateful racist things.

I wondered about the context, so I browsed around in the YUCC web site for while when this first came up. A month ago, they had a section with hundreds of sermons and lectures given by Wright. I watched 5 random sermons and 2 lectures. The man is a flaming racist bigoted white hater. I would tell you to look for yourself, but the church REMOVED those links.

BO,s brilliant speech. Yeah, right.

It was brilliant all right. It was a brilliant example of avoiding the core question, masking it with a history of racism and then making moral equivalent comparisons between Wright’s hate speech and your local minister’s sermons.

Yeah, brilliant.

Like I said, documentation is everything.

Comment by Mike
April 5th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

To andylit
Don’t you wished people would get off the bit how Bush lied to the american people, because nobody is that good a liar to fool how many countries. The real problem was the post Saddam plan. That was as screwed up as a Hillary Clinton campaign.
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One of the major problems in this campaign is the angst of the Bush haters. They are having a hard time finding an outlet.

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

“If you remove the politics of mudslinging, here we have a post racial candidate, running his campaign on optimisim hope (Audacity to hope), and intellect. Here we have a candidate who taught Constitutional Law for 12 years in America’s top law schools. Here we have a candidate who has inspired millions of people all along the land.”
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You’d best be doin’ some research, son. Your last sentence above is lacking in fact, according to the schools he “taught” at.

Time for dinner

AndyLit

“FYI, if you bother to dig through the various news archives, you will discover some interesting facts about the “flimsy” evidence.

The intell was so strong and so convincing that the US, UK, French, German and even the Russian intelligence services were sure the WMD programs were in place and operational. Even the Russians have confirmed that they gave us data confirming the itell coming in from everywhere else.”
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What nonsense are you talking about, The French out right didnt support us in this war in Iraq. The Germans were never there. Only a bunch of Nato aspirants from the former Eastern block, stumbling over their heels to repay America in its time of need, and our Eternal Ally Great Britain came to our help. Spain simply walked away once they got a new adminstration.

Millions of people around the world marched against the war in Iraq. Even UN didnt agree to Bush’s flimsy reasons.

Hans Blix was the head of the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission from January 2000 to June 2003. Dr. Blix consistently accused the U.S. and British governments of dramatising the threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, in order to strengthen the case for the 2003 war against the regime of Saddam Hussein. You wanna know my source do a google search on Hans Blix, and check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Blix

It was politically very expedient to dismiss Hans Blix as a looney liberal , as was done before the war in Iraq, by the right wing media, including this Fox News. When facts have shown after the war the Hans Blix was correct. There were no WMD in Iraq.

McCain supported this war, and he is a war monger. When so many people including the head of United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission knew that evidence for war against iraq was flimsy, yet Bush the IMBECILE launched a war against a country that was already under UN embargo. And now we are stuck in this unwinnable, extremely costly war, that is only going to increase our debt which our children and grand children are going to pay.

McCain is a war monger.

Vote no to war mongers, vote yes to peacemakers, vote against the pessimism, vote against politics of fear, vote for optimism, vote for peace, vote for youth, vote for hope, vote for change.
Vote Barack Obama.

I think name calling is below the belt. So, again I say no to McCain being a war monger. McCain is simply dead wrong about the war in Iraq.

Name calling is the conservative’s way of avioding discussion of issues.

If you have watched Obama, he never stoops to their level.

I think that going into Iraq was brilliant. Iran is the REAL ENEMY and guess whose military is just miles away. Not bad for a “Bumbling President.” By the the way - the now dead Zarqawi, commander of the terrorist forces in Afghanistan, trained terrorists INSIDE IRAQ BEFORE 911 - AND - after being wounded in Afghanistan, RETURNED TO IRAQ to RECOVER and LEAD THE TERRORISTS AGAINST US. THAT, MY LIBERAL FRIENDS IS A FACT AND CAN BE VERIFIED!!! The thing that the libs don’t get, is that IRAQ IS A BATTLE - NOT A WAR. The war started long before President Bush took office, not much was done about it and will go on LONG AFER BUSH IS GONE. Even Hillary knows that.

Uh…. bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran anyone? If that (and 7 years of unremitting support to a tragic and unnecessary war) doesn’t make you a warmonger, I don’t know what does.

Two great websites really worth a look for all Hillary supporters.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net

http://www.webtrec.com/hillary

So, a warmonger is now defined as someone who wants to get THEM, before they GET US? Hmmm. Interesting. I went to a Quaker high school in the 50s when Stevenson was running against Ike. Of course, almost all the staff and students were pacifists. I happen to ask our sweet school nurse (still wore the bonnet and cape) and well into her 70s, who was she was going to vote for. I was shocked when she said “Oh, I like Ike.” I couldn’t believe it. I asked,”Why?’ She responded, “Who knows more about peace than a man of war?” That’s called wisdom. Nuff said.

Iam sorry who said we should stay in Iraq for 100 years? Oh yes McCain. Who voted to send our troops to Iraq for a war that was based on no real truth or facts and still wants us to stay there. Oh I forgot John McCain. In the process we should also speak out against Mark Penn her campagin head and a lobbyist (his real job) who is working with the Colombian Govt to pass the Columbian free trade agreement when Hillary apparantly opposses. Again if this passes we stand to loose more jobs. I thought Hillar was for blue collar workers?

By the way check this out

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil

Type case number in

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Who is Peter Paul? Find out on You Tube

Obama is a terrorist supporting, race baiting, unqualified………….crappy bowler!

Comment by Jimbo
April 5th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
I think that going into Iraq was brilliant. Iran is the REAL ENEMY and guess whose military is just miles away. Not bad for a “Bumbling President.” By the the way - the now dead Zarqawi, commander of the terrorist forces in Afghanistan, trained terrorists INSIDE IRAQ BEFORE 911 - AND - after being wounded in Afghanistan, RETURNED TO IRAQ to RECOVER and LEAD THE TERRORISTS AGAINST US. THAT, MY LIBERAL FRIENDS IS A FACT AND CAN BE VERIFIED!!! The thing that the libs don’t get, is that IRAQ IS A BATTLE - NOT A WAR. The war started long before President Bush took office, not much was done about it and will go on LONG AFER BUSH IS GONE. Even Hillary knows that.
_______________________________________________________________________________-

Jimbo

What do liberals think? if we leave Iraq then the bad guys are going to start playing nice? What a nice think to FEEL but it is not reality..unfortunatly.

More brutal and gory details of the man Obama unequivocally supports. Obama is so busted. This is more than bad judgment, this is scary.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-pal-uses.html

Pray for Our Troops

Comment by God Save Our Nation

I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING ON THAT WEBSITE, IT LOOKS AS IF THEY SUPER IMPOSED THAT PICTURE OF OBAMA AND THAT MAN YOU KEEP TRYING TO LINK HIM WITH.

DET Are You there?

Jennifer writes the following on Human events.com -she does a much better job then I was going to do in stating the 100 year farce.. plus I am a little tired tonight:)

Dems Caught in the ‘100 Year War’ Fib
by Jennifer Rubin

Barack Obama has a political “problem” with national security which is kind of like saying Howard Dean has a “problem” with voice modulation. Obama, of course, has no foreign policy training or experience (not to mention no record of military service which may explain why his notion of an Iraq policy centers on some ill-defined “strike force” in a not yet determined location), yet he wants to have tea with the world’s dictators. He also said (and still says) the surge wouldn’t improve security in Iraq. So Obama and his sidekick DNC Chairman Howard Dean thought they had a great idea: try to play some gotcha, sound bite politics on Iraq. After all, the press wouldn’t notice or care if they fuzzed up the facts, right?

Things started out well for them. They spotted a response by John McCain to a question from a New Hampshire voter as to whether he agreed with President Bush that troops might be in Iraq for 50 year. McCain said:

“Make it a hundred. We’ve been in Japan for 60 years, we’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That’s fine with me. I hope it will be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping, and motivating people every single day.”

“Yeah, that’s it!” the newly formed political brain trust (Obama-Dean) concluded. “Let’s tell folks McCain wants to fight for 100 years.” They must have calculated that: 1) their allies in the MSM wouldn’t point out that they were playing cut-and-paste politics and 2) McCain wouldn’t fight back. They were wrong on both counts, which at least is consitent with Dean’s record on such matters. What’s worse they only emphasized Obama’s greatest weaknesses and diminished one of his strengths. Good work fellas.

Though Obama may say he disagrees with this adjective he will continue to suggest that he really does believe with this review of McCain. Obama is devoted to the notion that war is bad for any and all reasons thus his views would support the view of McCain being “associated with war”. Thank God that Obama wasn’t about for WW2 and Korean War….he would have surrendered immediately or just stuck his head in the sand. Doing the ‘right thing” often takes fortitude which Obama is significantly lacking…….our enemies WILL dance in the streets if he is elected, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT….and his supporters do not concur with this?????….maybe that’s what they want too??

War is never pretty but there are times when only such an action will resolve a divide. Can you imagine what would have occurred if the south actually separated from the union…we would not have had a United States….so was Lincoln a warmonger….the very person who Obama’s followers try to paint him as. So, was it OK to have had the Civil War but no others??? Was FDR a warmonger…or was the closeness of war with the Cuban Missile crisis warmongering on JKF’s part??? i really like how Obama is willing to pick and choose those wars he believes in and those he separates himself from. Just what does Obama stand for….I really do not know….oh…silly me….it’s “change”….let our guard down, decrease the military…given all the social programs it is the only thing that could remotely close to cost savings. Oh, i forgot raise taxes!!

Is it possible that the democrats can finally GRASP the MEANING of what a LIE is? I listened to the full and original McCain quote. WOW - they are really getting desperate!!! It figures - “Bush lied to us about Iraq’s WMD.” YOU IDIOTS!! Before Saddam went to his reward (how many virgins?), he confessed that HE PLANTED THE WMD STORY to keep the Iranians off his back, AND YES, LIBS - that has been documented and THAT IS NOT A LIE. ALL the intelligence agencies bought it, not just the US. By the way, he also said that he never believed that we would invade. NOW WHERE COULD HAVE SADDAM GOTTEN THAT CONCEPT?? DUH? Maybe in the next edition of Webster’s Dictionary, they will define a LIE as something the other guy doesn’t agree with. INCONVENIENT TRUTH????

McShamnesty is a coward, traitor and loser. I will laugh when this idiot gets smacked in November. The old fool can’t even remember what he says anymore. Good riddance to this feeble retard…….

Comment by JSmith
April 5th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
“He isn’t a war monger. you are just stuck on the word. If we have to be in a war to save our nation, so be it. Rather there then here”

Save our nation? Lol, you really think that this war in Iraq was to save our nation…. First it was based on the flimsy reason that it was WMD, when that was not found there it was Al Qaeda.

Well, let me tell you this, Iraq didnt invade America, niether was Al Qaeda in Iraq before Bush invaded Iraq, in all his Imbecility. Bush by acting like a Don Quixote attacking every windmill bearing the name of Al Qaeda, has festered more hatred for America, in a region which breeds terror.

By invading Iraq, Bush has made America, that much more unsafe. Whats worse is that Bush has left us in an unwinnable war, costing Billions of dollars that our kids and grandkids will have to repay.

McCain supported this war based on Lies and at best flimsy reasons. If McCain has his way he will keep us there for a 100years, in a region where most people do not want Americans occupying their land.

Yes McCain is a warmonger. He is a GRADE A warmonger, who will continue this occupation for as long as it takes.
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JSmith

I am a big fan of President Bush..I backed him when we went to Iraq as probably 80% of Americans did back then ..since then people have grown tired of the war, which history shows happens when we are at war..but I stood by my President (even when he sounded a little silly at times) but yet I would worry if maybe we might have made things worse with the nut case radical muslims or wonder if freeing the Iraq people from a brutal tyrant and stoping him from making WMDs or helping the terrorsit was enough..ya what if we made the radical muslims somehow stronger? Well then I was reassured that my faith in my President was not in vain..that yes President Bush did not only do a good thing in freeing those people and stopping Sudam from torturing or gasing people.. but yes he did do the right thing in stopping radical muslims in stopping terrorist..my new renewed proof is the following

PrariePundit reports

“Iraq has been a disaster for al Qaeda. It is a major strategic defeat for the jihadi movment. Both Sunni and Shia Iraqis have overwhelming rejected al Qaeda and radical Islam. If you don’t understand al Qaeda’s strategy you don’t understand how big a deal this is. It also disproves Sageman’s theory, because helping the Iraqis resist al Qaeda has done more to harm the radical Islamic movement than anything we have done in this war.”

I was happy to hear the Iraq people fighting on their own .. so yes Bush did know what he was doing ..he will go down in History, just as Lincoln did, as a great man who helped bring democracy to the middle-east. McCain has great wisdom and will continue to help our troops in any way they need. God Bless Our Troops!

Comment by McShamnesty
April 5th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
McShamnesty is a coward, traitor and loser. I will laugh when this idiot gets smacked in November. The old fool can’t even remember what he says anymore. Good riddance to this feeble retard…….
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I hope all Democrats and Republicans hear how this, I would assume, Hillary or Obama supporter would ridicule a honored POW who is at a mature age-yes listen all you mature men and women out there how they talk about a man who is elderly..as what? that makes him less intelligent? a “feeble retard”. Everyone with any common sense knows, just because you are older, does not mean you are any less capable of accomplishing great things..it does not make any one less a person..if anything it gives all man and women such wonderful wisdom that only comes with age. I hope with all my heart the wonderful wisdom he must have gained over the years will be an asset to our country in the whitehouse.

McCain for all Americans -old and young!!

A more important question concerns whether McCain is really a war hero. It seems like we hear that every day in the news. He certainly seems to mention it every day on the campaign trail. Let’s take a closer look at this very pivotal period of his life that he wears like a badge of honor. First a little background:

John McCain III comes from a very respectable military family. Both his father and his grandfather were four star Admirals in the United States Navy. John McCain III, from here on just referred to as John McCain, graduated in 1958 in the lowest one percent of his class at Annapolis.

John McCain was not a very good pilot. Before being shot down over a lake near Hanoi, McCain had already crashed 4 airplanes - once as a student pilot landing in Corpus Christi Bay, ”then Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines.”

When John McCain landed in the lake, he would have died had a Vietnmese peasant named Mr. On not saved him from drowning by carrying him out with the assistance of several others. Once they got to shore several people beat him up. Considering the fact that he’d already broken three limbs in the landing - being stuck in the foot must have been pretty miserable - still McCain was lucky to escape with his life - considering the fact that he was on a bombing mission!

He was taken to (the Hanoi Hilton) a prison and interrogated and slapped around.

“1973 New York Daily News labeled POW McCain III a “PW Songbird”
On McCain III’s fourth day of being denied medical treatment, slapped, and threatened with
death by the communist (they were demanding military information in exchange for medical
treatment), McCain III broke and told his interrogator, ”O.K., I’ll give you military information if you
will take me to the hospital.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former
POW John McCain.”

“By Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press was quoting McCain III describing
his mission including the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the
order of which U.S. attacks would take place.”

This appears to be the beginning of a very disturbing pattern of McCain giving up information that endangered the lives of other Americans, at times publicly through broadcasts.

Considering the fact that McCain did everything he could to thwart the search for MIAs after the war, to the point of insulting surviving family members, one just wonders what motivated him. Perhaps there were others who didn’t give up information so easily.

McCain came back from Vietnam. His wife had been in an accident and was in wheelchair. McCain started to have an affair, got divorced and married his current wife: The heiress of a very wealthy Anheuser Busch distributor. McCain was given a job in the family business in pr.

Now I just wonder how a man like this could allow others to call him a hero. If this time in Vietnam represents the best that McCain has to offer, then I’m a little skeptical of the man. Ok no one is expecting Nathan Hale, but come on - a war hero - the man the papers called a “songbird” because of the revelations that he shared with the North Vietnamese - then in an interview to French television while he was a captive - endangering god knows how many American lives. No wonder he enrages both Democrats and Republicans, loyalty doesn’t seem to be his strong suite.

Comment by Michael in Atlanta
April 5th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

I think name calling is below the belt.

Name calling is the conservative’s way of avioding discussion of issues.
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Here here! Excellent thought….hey…wait a minute. The liberals here are doing all the name calling.

I wonder what that means.

It’s understandable that McCain reported feeling so much shame later for his conduct in Vietnam .
Perhaps we can forgive him - but should we reward him for his treason. Will we ever know how many American lives he sacrificed to save himself - hardly heroic. A war hero? I think not.

Nick Mitchell, Anyone who puts on the uniform is a hero….

McCain is my hero!

There is a fundamental problem with calling for Obama’s apology: OBAMA CAN NOT MAKE MISTAKES AND THERFORE HAS NOTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR. Obama’s apostoles, er spokespeople, may have said something that was inaccurate but since it conformed to what Obama preaches it must be true.

Nick Mitchell - easy to make up crap and try to sell it as truths…..you are a ‘typical’ liberal

Obama support late term abortion…that is KILLING babies DAYS before they are born. And his wife says it is a VALID medical procedure.

He EVEN used his kids in a speech to abortion supporters calling them punishment.

Obama MAKES ME SICK. hHe is NO uniter he only unites black people

Comment by Nick Mitchell
April 5th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

He was taken to (the Hanoi Hilton) a prison and interrogated and slapped around.
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After being shot down

“When they had finished removing my gear and clothes, I felt a sharp pain in my right knee. I looked down and saw that my right foot was resting next to my left knee at a 90