McCain: I can compete in California
Waco, TX — Though he recognizes the fiscal difficulties and political challenges associated with competing in California in November, Sen. John McCain said Monday he will “insist” on campaigning in the Golden State.
“It’s the biggest state in America. I think as a Western Senator I understand their issues. I think the environmental issues are very important in California. I think I can appeal to the Hispanic vote, I think I can appeal to the Asian vote, I think I can appeal to the independent voter–which is a larger and larger percentage of registered voters,” McCain said aboard his “Straight Talk” bus after a townhall meeting in Waco, TX. “I just want to compete in California, and I understand the drawbacks of that, the cost of media, and all of those aspects of it…I don’t think, as a candidate, that I want to say that we’re not going to compete in the largest state in America, which is next door to my home state of Arizona.”
McCain also suggested yesterday he would try to compete in New Jersey. (audio from bus below)
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While a Republican has failed to win California since 1988, GOPers have long wanted to paint the state red again. Most recently, Karl Rove advised then-Governor George W. Bush to make a significant effort there in 2000 and received some backlash after Dubya still lost by 12 percent and more than 1.2 million votes in the state.
While senior campaign advisers said they believe they will start with an edge among Golden State Hispanic voters because of McCain’s leadership on the immigration compromise (and will also have an advantage within the group if Obama is their Democratic rival), they also acknowledge privately that winning California will be challenging.
At worst, they say a McCain push in the state would force the Democrats to defend what should be safe territory.
However among other issues, the presumptive GOP nominee will be at a severe financial disadvantage (outraised almost 4:1 by Clinton and nearly 5:1 by Obama in February alone) and California is a very expensive paid media state. Given that McCain will likely have to play defense in some of his own red states as Obama and Clinton have said they are intent on competing in the south and mountain west, the AZ Senator’s financial resources will be limited.
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As much as i would like to see mcCain win california, I do not think it will happen. Its just too blue!
This is why McCain needs Romney as his VP. Romney has the money and knows where to get the rest. McCain and Romney are the kind of Republicans that can win blue states away from Democrats. Some conservatives don’t like to think that the party is moving away from them, but it is.
Thats SOUNDS be nice, Romney and mcCain has proven not to be REGIONAL canidates !!!
Interesting post found elsewhere:
03/04/2008 08:49 AM
Don’t even look at the polls.
I signed up with one of the big national polling groups. Yesterday they sent me an e-mail invitation to take part in a poll.
FIRST, though, there was a questionnaire, asking questions about which candidates I would or would not vote for, and my level of trust in the news media.
After that, they informed me I didn’t qualify for their poll. (!!!)
~~~~~Dont hold your nose…VOTE HUCKABEE!
Remember the almost iconic newsphoto of newly elected President Truman holding aloft the newspaper headline, DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN.
All together, we are covering this day in prayer.
“Lloyd Hansen”…McCain certainly doesn’t need Romney as VP for anything in order to win anything. America already spoken about their opinion of Romney who p*ssed away $100M of money and never got any momentum which $100M should buy. American people didn’t catch on to Romney for two simple facts 1) his Mormonism 2) his past liberal political stances when he was a Governor. One can “run from their past but they cannot hide” from their past. What McCain needs is some new blood and a heavy, well respected, hard core conversative such as a Duncan Hunter or someone like him and not a guy out of the Bush #1 and Bush #2 mold……liberal Republicans posing as alleged Conservatives. McCain needs more of a protectionist conservative rather than an Internationalist…NAFTA/WTO guy. We don’t need anymore politicians selling our manufacturing base, what remains of it, to the Chinese or to Mexico. McCain needs a Barry Goldwater/Ronny Reagan type of guy and not a flim flam man such as Romney who is anything but a Goldwater/Reagan. We need someone who can get our manufacturing based back to American shores and restore American jobs so we can tell the Chinese to put it “where the sun doesn’t shine” and then go tell them to scale back their military before we scale it back for them and this cannot be done without getting our jobs back to the US and we cannot do this until we role back domestic regulations, red tape and lower taxes in order to keep the Government out of the US producer’s and employers business(s) and we need someone who needs to wipe away affirmative action once and for all so employers can higher the most qualified, hard working people and not some scab who is highered just because he or she exists. If McCain did all of the above mentioned, then he will be President for two terms.
Storm - don’t even look at the polls? at some point you huck supporters have to look at the SCOREBOARD! This is ridiculus. Huck is slick. He keeps getting MSM time because he is like a freak show. It has grown old and mold is starting to form.
MC - does the man you want for VP even exist? All those qualities can’t even be found in McCain and he is the nominee.
ICE: I was just reposting something I thought was interesting.
If you want to ignore the fact that the media can and does manipulate, or the fact that polls can be skewed by the questions asked and the choices given for answers…that is your choice.
AND…I might add that Carl Cameron is the MOST biased newsperson I have seen report yet, and of course I have told him so a few times…lol
I hear you “Vanilla Ice”. Maybe I am only dreaming and sometimes it seems that my Utopia political dream is nothing more than a mental delusion for some false hope. I really don’t know if anyone like this exists anymore.
Storm writes…
Don’t even look at the polls. <<<
It depends on the polls. I love statistics so I spend/waste time tracking the accuracy of the polls. Interestingly, some polls such as Insider Advantage (IA) are deadly accurate on the GOP side but terribly inaccurate on the Democratic side. For example IA has shown their projections to be off by about 5.83% on the GOP side but 12.00% on the Democratic side. The best by far this year has been Survey USA which has a 4.88% combined margin of error, and Quinnipiac at 4.25%. Strategic Vision is also good particularly on the Democratic side although their error margin is 7.00%. Mason Dixon is a bit further back at 9.85% which means you have to question their projections a bit. Rasmussen is at 9.35% but what Rasmussen is really good at is identifying trends. All the other will give you a snapshot in time but Rasmussen uses a four day rolling average to calculate their projection so when you see movement in asmussen’s polls it is an indicator of a bigger swing.
The one’s to completely ignore are the media polls (CNN, CSPAN, NYT, etc), American Research Group, and Research 2000. Those are terribly inaccurate and are wrong more often than they are right.
So I agree with you that some polls are worthless but if you know the ones to pay attention to they can give you good info.
Storm - it is difficult to see sometimes what you post yourself v. what you copy from other posts, but my point is still valid.
I don’t ignore the reality of media influence, and I have taken statistics course in college and I never knew math could be defined in so many “interesting” ways. It is absolutely scary.
People are consumers of info. The media cool aid or the huck cool aid, in the end its just somebodys cool aid.
Huck appeals to Texas pride by telling them to not let the media decide the future, but he doesn’t turn down appearances on CNN and Fox. I see too much hypocricy in Huck. He is slick, too slick.
sighs…AGAIN… I did not say do not look at the polls… I reposted someone elses post that I found interesting.
I agree with you Scott that you have to dig deep. Even into what questions are being asked and the choices given.
I know from personal experience that questions can be formed in such a way to provoke a certain response…and I have declined to answer some questions (they were about the job Bush is doing and the Iraq war) because of the way they posed it, and told them so.
So…imho…and MY WORDS…lol dont ignore the polls…but dig deep. Kind of like, dont go by soundbites…
Ice…
And there is our impasse…the same feeling you get from Huck…I got from Mitt.
Either one we favor, the media (et. al.) has GREATLY manipulated this whole election… imho.
I said it before and I will say it again…if the dems win..it will be on their heads.
Sorm writes…
I know from personal experience that questions can be formed in such a way to provoke a certain response…<<<
You are absolutely correct and that’s probably why the media polls are so inaccurate. They are likely not following a scientific method…their business is not polling it’s reporting news so at best they don’t know how to create a good poll and at worst they intentionally try to skew the numbers with the phrasing of the question. You are right though….you have to dig and look for good information. Sorry for the confusion
No need for apologies…I guess I should of starred the repost…my fault for the confusion…lol (wouldn’t be the first time)
MC, I agree with you on most of your points except that we don’t need to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. Look at what we buy from China: CRAP. Also, the only way we can “bring manufacturing jobs back” (they didn’t leave, they morphed) is to bring in a workforce of low-skill, low-cost labor. Hmm, wonder where that might come from… The bottom line is: We have moved past the point where it makes sense to manufacture low-quality, low-priced goods in the US. International trade agreements aren’t a win/lose situation and they certainly aren’t weakening our economy while someone else is robbing us blind. If we really want to stay away from a war with China we need to develop MORE trade and investment relationships with them, not close our ports to their low-cost goods.
“American people didn’t catch on to Romney…”
That’s where you are wrong, CONSERVATIVES didn’t catch on to Romney, at least not until McCain already had his momentum. Remember that conservatives make up only 10-20% of the electorate and are concentrated in Republican strongholds. I think that when conservative Christians compare Obama and his running mate to McCain/Romney they will have no choice but to vote for McCain/Romney because Obama is just too liberal. If religion becomes an issue, Obama’s black seperatist church will be a much more focused on organization than Romney’s Mormonism. McCain needs the economic credibility and quick wit of Romney or someone like him in the general election.
LOL
How can McLame win CA when Dems turnout was 4M+ and Reps turnout was 2M. McLame got 1.03M votes in CA primary. Obama even though he lost got 1.9M. Obama alone is too much for McLame already.
Assembling a Flock
Mr. Huckabee wanted to return to his home state, and he wanted his own church. He had been filling in as pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Pine Bluff, a dwindling congregation in a small city stuffed with churches. When he signed on full time, members figured Immanuel would be able to hang on for another 5 or 10 years before disbanding.
“Everyone thought I was crazy” to take the job, Mr. Huckabee said.
He told the congregation that he planned to put the church — and himself — on television. Then he persuaded his incredulous flock to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to renovate the dingy, barnlike auditorium, putting in pews with comfortable padding and more leg room, a stained-glass window he designed himself and a sound system from the engineers who had wired the Houston Astrodome.
Drawn by the new space, a 26-year-old pastor who loved rock ’n’ roll and the advertisements he had placed on bus shelters, young families began to arrive. But Mr. Huckabee wanted a wider audience. Soon he had a low-power television station on the air, which made him the proprietor and star of not just the only Christian broadcast in town, but the only local broadcast, period. It made him pastor “for all of Pine Bluff,” said Garey Scott, then the youth minister.
Vanilla Ice says: Huck has been promoting only HIMSELF since his early twenties. All the tricks he learned to get money from his flock he employs today. He wants to be the pastor “for all of America”. He ditched the pulpit because the sandbox was too small. Political power is his chosen way for his ministry to continue. As someone posted above, you can run from your past, but you can’t hide.
Lloyd writes…
is to bring in a workforce of low-skill, low-cost labor. Hmm, wonder where that might come from… <<<
I understand the point you are making but I disagree. Here in Arizona we recently passed new laws that businesses found to be employing illegal aliens would be stripped of their business license. Lots of businesses and farmers and such were in a panic because they feared American citizens would not take thos jobs (that’s always been the big argument). What they have found is that so many American citizens have applied for these newly available jobs that businesses and farmers are having to turn people away. I understand your point and it’s a common perception but events here in Arizona so far don’t support it.
cut & paste, cut & paste..
Come on Ice..at least put a source reference and name so we can honestly critique the article(?). Is Garey Scott the author? Where was this printed or posted?
Common Ice…the devils in the details…
Mr. “Lloyd Hansen” I agree with just about all that you have said. Further, I agree with what you say about the Obama “black separist” point compared to the Romney “Mormonism” point. When you compare the two, side by side, I do agree. Back to a very important issue, which I must elaborate on is the China thing. I hear no politician, candidate, congressman or Senator bringing up is the most important point which is…..”China is a Communist regime”. The philosophy behind Communism is the issue of “dialectic materialism”….which is the position of taking “two steps forward, one step back and then two steps forward again” just like putting the proverbial “frog in cold water and turning up the heat and the frog will not realize he is going to die being boiled”. And…..Communism cannot exist or work unless the whole World is under its rule and under the same system. The Chinese have never lost site of the victory of World domination in whatever means they must carry it out. The Chinese are chess players who have time on their side. Where the Russians failed is that they tried it from the “get go” by the means of pure militaration which was too overt and the World saw it coming and the Russian system didn’t have the economic system or plan in place. However, the Chinese used the failure of the Russian version as a template and it has worked. The Chinese still plan on the military domination and military Communism as they use this against their own people every single day in China; but they figured that unless it is marriaged with a competitive economic plan, and sold with an economic plan, then it will not work because the military machine cannot be built without the proper economic plan in place. Well, the Chinese have done it. They have set up a “highbred” Communist economic/military system through their ability to in source manufacturing with slave labor yet putting out a cheap product throughout the World. They now control over two trillion dollars of US Treasuries, Eurodollars and stocks and bonds and now are the World’s largest bond traders and purchasers. They have systematically built their military and now have a superiority with their submarines over and above that of the USA and they will have a “blue Navy” in the matter of a few short years. They have more nukes than what we understand. We cannot defend Tawain if we wanted to from the Chinese. We could seven years ago, but not now. The Chinese now have space weapons and over a 200 million man army when needed. Therefore, whatever we have to do in the USA to put us on the power grid again, we better do quickly because the Internationalists in this Party, as well as the Internationalists in the Democratic Party have sold us out since 1994. Ronny Reagan would have never allowed NAFTA or GATT/WTO.
EVERYONE, MASTER CONSERVATIVE, AKA AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE IS HERE AND STINKING UP THE SITE.
MR HANSEN IS BEING BAITED RIGHT NOW BY MC. THE MOMENT SIR THAT YOU SAY SOMETHING MASTER CONSERV DISAPROVES OF, HE WILL THREATEN YOU AND THEN TRY TO HAVE YOU REMOVED FROM THE SITE.
THIS MASTER CONSERVATIVE IS A MAGGOT OF THE WORST TYPE. NOTHING BUT A COWARD
Listen Mr. Feeney, I am not “American Conservative”. We are two different people. Please get that through your head friend. WE ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON!
wELL THANKS MASTER CONSERVATIVE FOR YOU’RE BORING NARRATIVE ON ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. IF ANYBODY BOTHERS LISTENING TO YOU’RE CRAP ANYMORE THEN THEY DESERVE THE BOREDOM THAT YOU GUARANTEE WITH EVERY POST.
HEY EVERYONE THIS IS THE COWARD THAT LIKES TO THREATEN PEOPLE THEN HAVE YOU REMOVED. TO THIS MOMENT, IVE COUNTED 3 PEOPLE HE’S THREATENED WITH REMOVAL BUT THANKFULLY TO FOX HE’S HAD 0 SUCCESS.
Of course SENATOR MCCAIN can’t compete in California. I admire his spunk though.
Those lettuce and citrus pickers are much, much younger that him. About 50 YEARS younger to be exact.
He should keep the job he has. I predict that after November he will still be in his same job. Thre’s plenty of old, old, old, old, OLD guys there to keep him company
Ice:
You might want to check out this concerning polls:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/4/1172/31168
I am done with this thread. I cannot handle you Ed Feeney as you won your war; unfortunately, you are wrong as I am not American Conservative and I have never attempted on any occasion to remove anyone. Trying to remove someone is not any business of mine. Go enjoy.
Ed:
Stop using your caps throughout your posts. It irritating and rude.
Huckabee says he’s staying in the race to help the Republican Party stay true to its core values.
“I do think that many people need to be looking at the future of our party. If we’re not reaching out to younger voters, if we’re not capturing the issues that people care about … then we’re going to be an extinct party in another few years,” Huckabee said on CNN’s “American Morning.”
I will Vote Huckabee as long as he is on the ballot!
GO HUCKABEE!!!
McCane thinks he can compete in California for the national election. He is so delusional along with his OLD GOP supporters. Not only will he lose California but I earnestly believe he will not win a single state. He will make history as the biggest loser of all time. The problem being that he is running on a Republican ticket when he is a Democrat.
Thats why our party is split — the only ones voting for McCane is the OLD GUARD and the media influenced voters.
The NEW GOP emerging doesn’t solitcit to the OLD GOP and we want them removed. They grin and swear to GOD they represent the guiding format outlined for our country by our founding fathers. However we have learned that if their lips are moving then they are lying.
Look for an Independent to emerge — this race has been formulated to put a Democrat in office. I believe the time is exceptional for an Independent such as Huckabee to emerge and take the nomination from Hillary/Obama and McCane —– Washington would be scared — I’d love to see a Huckabee/Romney or visa versa Independent ticket to strighten out this mess our country has been lead into. To be sure Huckabee and Romney would much rather work with each other then McCane and the OLD LOSER GOP. Now that would be the beginning of the NEW GOP
Huckabee and Romney did little for their states as governor to police illegal immigration. Huckabee actually supported giving health benefits to them. Romney ran as a liberal Republican to become governor of Mass. He created Universal Health Care there and now is running from it. Huckabee increased state government spending and taxes in AR. Now both run as more conservative than McCain? Sounds like politician speak to me (same as Obama and Hiliary).
Ron Paul continues to ask for ear-marks from the government (pork-barrel spending) although he states he is proponent to decrease government spending? If he totally gets rid of the IRS and fed income taxes, are we still going to have a miltary, border patrol, FBI, etc? Do you think Americans would really allow getting rid of social security, medicare, national parks, etc?
Michael Reagan was recently on CNN debating Lars Larson. Thanks for his insight into this self-defeatism of some conservatives.
Lars and other so called conservatives listen to Michael Reagan! You guys are creating something out of Ronald Reagan that wasn’t. 1st of all politics should be about the issues and not how you can show disrespect to your competitor as Cunningham did. Are you saying Ronald Reagan would have behaved like Cunningham if he was still around?
I don’t believe McCain has split the Republican party but so called conservatives who blast those who do not line up with their mandates and ideals they have defined. I’m not interested in defeat as these conservatives are. Last time you guys let Herbert Walker Bush lose, we ended up w/ 8 yrs of Clinton and if it wasn’t for Florida it would have been at least 4 more yrs under Gore.
You say you are upset w/ McCain’s ideals, but were you happy w/ deficits ran during terms of Bush? Were you happy w/ DeLay conservatives who spent wildly under the first 6 yrs of Bush’s presidency? Did nothing about earmarks? Medicare part D ($$$)? Abramoff bribes and the Florida Congressman/ Congressional boy intern scandals (embarrassment for us Republicans who thought this was a party of principles)? What about Republicans who chose to give up on Iraq because they were more worried about their political hides (Chuck Hagle?)? Were you supporter of the Republican intervention into the Shiavo case (I say it was embarrassing as a physician to see politicians saying they knew more about this lady’s medical condition than the physicians that diagnosed her. This is where I lost respect for Bill Frist- cardiovascular surgeon not a neurologist)? Was it not Bush who was pushing the ‘McCain-Kennedy’ Immigration bill (you say Reagan was forced into amnesty, was Bush?)? Are you saying you would NOT try to re-elect Bush if he could run again and he was the Republican nominee?
I’m disappointed you guys are set to try to sink the Republican candidate in hopes that Reagan will be reincarnated. Honestly if you feel Reagan was such a great president, wouldn’t such a great person be a rare find? Do you really think it will be that easy to find another like him? You and others like you are gambling on the future of America to give your point.
For the Republican party and America, listen to Michael Reagan. I agree w/ Michael, Reagan would.
Signed,
Republican (?) not set on defeat in Iraq nor America
Comment by christopher
March 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Of course SENATOR MCCAIN can’t compete in California. I admire his spunk though.
Those lettuce and citrus pickers are much, much younger that him. About 50 YEARS younger to be exact.
He should keep the job he has. I predict that after November he will still be in his same job. Thre’s plenty of old, old, old, old, OLD guys there to keep him company
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Excuse me Obama or Hillary supporter, get a different username, don’t use mine!
If the two children on the Dem side are not on one ticket. I will vote for McCain, plain and simple. I live in CA and I know it will be hard to win this state but he has my vote. The two Dems right now are tearing the party aprat and anyone that does not see that is blind!
Well I’d sure like to see McCain win California but I think it’s a bit optimistic. You never know though. Rasmussen reports McCain leads in New Jersey right now so anything is possible.
Master Conservative:
Ed Weeney is a looser and everyone on these blogs know it, which is why nobody responds to his dribble. He called me a racist the other day and when asked to give one post where I said anything remotely racist, he hid behind his computer like a little school girl.
To further the point that you and I are two different people is our stark difference of opinion of Romney. I don’t know why you basically said his campaign went nowhere even after he spent the most money. One thing to remember he raised more money that any other candidate. He also was leading in delgates for most of the election until super tuesday. The primary elections are such a joke. You have some states who hold caucases an some who hold primaries. Some states are winner take all and some are done by congressional district. In every election before super tuesday, he was in 1rst or a close second, except for south carolina. You can’t say he did terrible in the south as he did very well in Florida. The reason he was not closer in delagates to McCain was because of the winner take all bull crap. I don’t mind if they do that, but make sure you do that on every state. And do not allow some states to go before others where a certain candidate may have a better chance of winning and therefore gain momentum because of all the press build up. I am telling you, primaries are a joke and if they were done all on the same day, I think it would have been a different story because the press would not be able to build up a certain candidate. Another thing to remember about Fox News, Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes are political contributors for fox. Their publication is the Weekly Standard and had been in full support of John McCain from the beginning. So he was always being held up and was never once asked by andy commentator about his hiring of Juan Hernandez to his campaign. I can assure you if that one story would have been reported, it would have sunk his campaign. This is when I knew how corrupt the press really is. I would have expected more from Fox News.
In regards to his religion. Yes, there is no question this hurt Romney. The reason why is because of massive increase of the anti-Mormon sites created. Many of which were created by local pastors. They spewed lies about what we believe. So when people are hearing and reading these things, people think we are some radical cult. If you have read any of the last 6 or 7 story blogs under Huckabee, I have exposed these religious bigots for who they really are. I do not mind if someone has a difference of opinon of my beliefs based, but do not lie and bear false witness. The second I corrected them of what we really believe, they immediatley stop spewing their hatred. So my point is, voters have been hearing crazy lies about my faith and so therefore do not want to vote for someone who they think has a way different set of beliefs than they do, when in reality we have more in common than differences. Just go to those story blogs and see the conversations I have had with Shelbey, Sarah, Crankey, Dan B, Leroy, and more.
Anyway, I still think Romney is the best we had running for President and hope he does not run with McCain. I based my opinion on the issues not a religion. No person should vote for or not for a person based upon their faith, gender, or race. Unless that religion poses a threat to America, i.e radical islam, not islam, radical islam. If you want my reasons for why I voted for Romney, I will gladly share them with you or anyone for that matter. Romney is out so it does not matter.
By the way, I do like Duncan Hunter as far as what I have read and heard about him.
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Thank you American Conservative. I respect you about the Romney opinion. I don’t disagree with you. And I agree with you about Mr. Ed Feeney. This guy is too much for me to handle. He sounds like he is part of the West Hollywood crowd or something like that. In terms of the religion thing, I believe this is the only reason why Romney isn’t the nominee now. It did hurt him. Further, a candidates past doesn’t always dictate what he does in the present. So if Romney’s positions when he was Governor changed to what Romney stands for now, this is good as Ronny Reagan was somewhat of a liberal early on and during some of his term as a California Governor and then Reagan “saw the light” and became an American Hero and is a bedrock on conservativism. So, I don’t disagree with you about Romney at all. I believe that he probably is very sincere now about his conservativism. Further, although I am not a Mormon, and I am a Christian, one thing that Mormon families do practice are family values and they are good family people and I would much rather have a Mormon in the white house over that of a mad lesbian leftist lady or a guy who attends a black racist church and does the Farrakhan supporting thing. If Obama really didn’t hold strong to the same beliefs and the same principles of his Pastor, then Obama would disavow that church and go to a real church which preaches a true Gospel and not attend some radical racist view type of nebulous church. But since Obama still attends the same church, then we have nothing else to do but believe Obama holds their radical views as well.
McCains only chance in Clifornia isn hisrunningmate. It cannot be Romney because of his religion. He has to pick someone who would balance the ticket, not look to young, and peple could see stepping into the Presidentia shoes.
Mike Huckabee will be the new face of the Republican party.
Get used to it!
Why not romney? The day after super tuesday, he nearly beat huckabee 2-1 on popular vote( and won more states). Think about it, utah, nevada and many of those western states are swing stated. Those states are are needed to win a general election. Romney does well in those states, and in the northern states too! He does a decent job in the south. (mainly georgia, flordia,). Not saying he is the perfect vp, but do not write him off as a good/ decent running mate. To this day still romney has more delegates than huck and has been out for about 3 weeks,
my 2 cents.
Forgive my poor grammer above. I think another good al gore(jk) io mean gov sonny perdue of GA!
pop…McCain does not like Romney plain and simple. Romney would only hurt McCain in evangelical south. I dont think Huckabee will be VP either. He would only be able to carry south. McCain will do well in the western states of Nevada, Utah on his own. He needs someone who can cross all the partylines.
No “Pop”, Romney doesn’t have more delegates than Huckabee. Huckabee has 3 more delegates than Romney before today began. You need to look at a different delegate chart other than the outdated one you must be reading. But the important thing to remember is Romney spent about $600,000.00 per delegate and Huckabee only spent $40,000 per delegate. Therein lies the real difference. If Huckabee had as much money from the “getgo” as Romney did for his campaign, you wouldn’t be hearing McCain or Romney’s names at the moment as Huckabee would have had this locked up over one month ago. Now I like McCain and Romney, but I am just stating the truth about the subject matter.
to master conservative: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_delegate_count.html
according this romney is up a little over 20
Some people never want to take responsibility for thier lack of insight and absolute denial of the apparent.
We aren’t voting this year for our team (Republican/Democrat). I would like to hope we have transended such basic juevenilism. It’s not about what Michael Reagan says or thinks it’s about the future of our country.
Many tried to get the GOP’s attention when Bush lost to Clinton but unfortunately no dice. Now McCane has become daddy Bush and history will repeat itself. When it’s over many will blame Huckabee, Romney, Ron Paul but nobody will blame themselves for supporting a candidate that represented as many Democratic values as Republican. A person known to blow up and pout when he didn’t get his way even to the point of changing parties.
We that clearly see the future are not swayed by fear tactics of what Obama or Clinton may do from robot GOP members. We don’t have any more faith in John McCane then them but what we do recognize is change must take place to restore our founding fathers blueprint for a free sovereign America.
We don’t want Senator ( I was a POW McCane) who couldn’t find his way home much less lead this nation through what appears to be a most distressing time. Gov. Huckabee is the only candidate left that remotely holds to (THE RIGHT STUFF) needed. He’s not a senator and he’s not a Washington bureaucrat — right off the bat he’s points ahead of the present herd of politicians.
However the dye has been set so for all you ROBOT OLD GOP voters rock on by yourselves. We that remain will build a NEW a better GOP that represents our forefathers ideology.
We”ll send you your social security if we can save it from your previous elected OLD GOP members.
You may be correct Pop, but I am pretty sure that I saw the 3 delegate count in Huckabee’s favor this morning somewhere, but I just don’t remeber where? So If I stand corrected, then I apologize.
Let me get this straight Ron if both Hillary and Barack are running mates you will vote for them.
BUT, If Obama doesn’t choose her or if Hillary doesn’t choose him , you’ll vote for McCain.
You are willing to let thousand of our soldiers die if they don’t form your dream team. Either you’re full of crap or you’re an IGNORAMUS? You can’t have it both ways. Whick is it?
New GOP…If Huckabee is the new face of your party it wll be very narrow party. Huckabee used his religion in his Chritmas ad and constantly called himslf the Christian candidate to throw doubt about Romney and his Morman religion. I noticed since Romney dropped out he no longer calls himself the Christian candidate. Good luck with you new party.
to master conservative. No problem. My point is even romney have been gone for a good while(3 weeks) he still has a higher delegate count than huck. This is evidence to me(personally) he (romney) was heavily underestimated and did better than people realized. About the whole money issue, romney spent his money the way he wanted to ,whats the problem he earned that money fair and square? He never took a salary as gov. To me it shows he is willing to sacrifice everything to make his voice heard. He eventally sacrificed his campaign for the betterment of the party. But its all water under the bridge. I hope mcCain picks a good vp. I looked at the exit polls of all the primaries and the dems out number the republicans 2-1 and some states even 4-1. We need to heal as a party and get ready for november . It will be a rough ride!
Pop - I agree with you on every word of your last message. If Romney was smart enough to earn his own money, and spent it the way he chose, God bless the man. That says allot about him. At least he doesn’t do what George Soros or Steven Speilberg or the other socialist billionaires do with their money in backing anti-American causes so I respect Romney for at least being a good American with his money. Now that should say allot. I agree with you about picking a good VP as this may make or break McCain this election so he better do some deep thinking and not come up with some smuck for a VP pick.
Comment by Master Conservative
March 4th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
No “Pop”, Romney doesn’t have more delegates than Huckabee. Huckabee has 3 more delegates than Romney before today began. You need to look at a different delegate chart other than the outdated one you must be reading. But the important thing to remember is Romney spent about $600,000.00 per delegate and Huckabee only spent $40,000 per delegate. Therein lies the real difference. If Huckabee had as much money from the “getgo” as Romney did for his campaign, you wouldn’t be hearing McCain or Romney’s names at the moment as Huckabee would have had this locked up over one month ago. Now I like McCain and Romney, but I am just stating the truth about the subject matter.
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Bush senior originally didn’t like Ronald Reagan, he still ended up being Reagan’s VP. There is still the possibility that Romney will be the VP nominee.
WHY does SkewNews INSIST on using unbound delegates? I do not think there is any two media outlets that have the same number.
I only want to see BOUND delegate numbers. Those that have no choice but to throw their support towards the candidate of their choice.
I do NOT want to see what he said, she said & THEY SAID when it does NOT matter!
STOP THE DECEPTION!
And stop putting slimball Campaign Carl on air. He is a disgrace and has slammed Huckabee on every turn. He is the most biased, snottiest and sarcastic newsperson I have seen.
If McKing doesn’t have 1191 BOUND delegates at the end of tonight…it STILL isn’t over.
I STILL WANT MY VOTE! and it won’t be for McKing!
Does anybody see the difference between this blog and Hillary or Obama blogs. An honest, respectful debate on the issues. They are shredding the other candidates apart. The funny thing is about Obama supporters who are doing this to Hillary, are the same ones who said we had the greatest years under Clinton. I guess this what happens when you suffer from the disorder of liberalism. Ed Weeney has a severe case of it as his post always prove. Though we may disagree on some points, but I think we all get that we must return to conserative principles as this is what has made our country great in the for all these years. I feel our country is the greatest in the world, but with liberalism becoming mainstream more and more each day, the more the voices of reason like all of ours becomes radical thinking.
Well said American Conservative.
Master Conservative:
Thank you for your kind words you said about my faith. Though we may disagree on the finer points, I am sure we both believe that Jesus Christ is our Savior and because of his sacrifice for our sins and his triumphant resurrection, we all have the opportunity to live with him again. Even Ed Weeney is our brother in Christ. I just don’t get why he continues to act like this. Hopefully he will have a change of heart.
I just don’t know about that Ed guy. He is “two mental french fries short of a happy meal” in my book.
Of course McCain would compete in California, he wants to grant defacto amnesty to all the illegals. It is sad to watch a good man sell out his country for votes. There are other reasons as well.
With this amnesty rhetoric from McCain and the two socialist, soon everyone will be calling men like me racist because I want a country who wants to follow the laws of the land. Why don’t those same people allow every philipino or any third world country in to the US. I live here in Nevada and am seeing the devasting effects on our school system, health care system, not to mention all the sanitary problems. I know Fox news won’t tell you this, but there have been major storms that have taken place in Mexico and different parts of south America. With stagnant water comes diseases. Illegals bring these diseases with them when they enter into the U.S. and spread this crap around. And because our ER’s won’t turn them away, they receive free medical care and never have to pay a dime for it. This is an outrage. Why do you think your insurance keeps going up? This is part of it. I am fed up with phony republicans telling me illegal immigration is no longer a major issue. This party disgust me.
@ American Conservative
That is not what McCain said, way to distort what someone has said, also a major issue with your argument.
Illegals bring disease — well guess what, anyone that goes to another country whether it be American Citizen, legal Immigrant, or illegal immigrant could theoretically bring a disease to the United States. Things that are imported to the United States could bring a disease over here.
In a situation like that, you’d want someone to be able to have access to healthcare facilities to prevent the spread of an epidemic, where thousands of people get sick from hypothetical disease. Now which is less expensive, treating the illegal immigrant or letting a pathogen spread throughout the general populace?
I don’t agree with people coming to the United States illegally, however you have to realize that under the United States Constitution it specifically states anyone born of American Citizens and/or Born in the United States are American Citizens.
I’m not calling you racist, I understand how it is frustrating that people enter the US illegally, however the illegal immigration situation is extremely complex, and I’d go for McCain’s secure the border first. Hillary and Obama would just throw the borders wide open without regard for the consequences. McCain’s stance is that rounding up 10-12 million people is impractical, so secure the borders and then sort the situation out. Some people would have to go back, some people would be able to stay. They would have to pay fines and back taxes, remember the people we’re talking about don’t make $100,000 dollars a year, so paying backtaxes and fines would be a pretty good punishment for starters. Then they have to learn English and get to the back of the line.
Two things you haven’t considered are:
1. Children that were born in the United States and are American Citizens, legally you cannot throw them out, they are US Citizens (I’d say the parents should go back and reapply while the kids (hopefully have family that are here legally) stay with relatives). That’s my opinion not sure how well that would work out.
2. Family members of US servicemen, do you seriously want to call up a guy putting his life on the line for this country to tell him that we’re deporting his grandmother?
McCain is right, this is a complex issue, it isn’t cut and dry. If you look at what the Democrats have in mind though, which is throw open the borders and let anyone come, even murderers, you’ll see that McCain is the best choice for President.
Chris: Thank you for reminding me of what American laws are. I wish people like McCain would abide by them. Of course you are going to have people bringing back diseases from other countries whether it is from vacationing or whatever. However, allowing people to come here in droves illegaly who cary these diseases is another. Thank you for reminding me how a child if born in the US is automatically a citizen. This is my whole point, they try to come here illegaly and take advantage of our laws and are breeding like rabits because they know they can not get sent home. And do most of them pay one dollar of that pregnancy and delivery, NO? Do they pay for their health care no. So dont give your crap like I do not know what I am talking about. This is why groups like La Raza ( Translated THE RACE)and John McCains hispanic relations advisor Juan Hernandez continue to drum beat open boarders. The more illegal immigrants that come here illegaly and have children, the more power and influence they will have over politicians as they seek the hispanic vote. I know you would have been one of those who be at the marches that took place where illegals and legals waived their mexican flags in our face, but I will not stand for it as I see the underlying message of what they are trying to achieve. You guys are ridiculous. Though I feel you are good men, but are willing to comprimise Americas laws and principles.
The whole reason children are automatically citizens was because of the act that was passed that would give slaves and their children citizenship. A very noble act by the way. The difference between the slaves and illegal immigrants is that slaves were forced to come here and be brutally beaten and taken advantage of through their work. Illegal immigrants come here on their own using their free will. A little bit of a difference. So do not educate me on our laws Chris, and stop rationalizing the indefensible. Your question about what would I do to those illegal parents with illegal kids fighting in the war? First of all, we have a volunteer army. Many people join the army because of the great benefits that come with it, mainly education. I would say that as soon as that soldier comes home, he goes back to his country and gets in line like everyone else. When he is eligible to come here to the US, he will then be compensated for his time of service and will be granted the education benefits he would have been able to receive as a legal citize. Again, these people CHOSE to come here illegaly and were not forced. Please recognize the difference. This is one area Ronald Reagan totally screwed up on by granting free Amnesty. Because we gave a hand, illegals and open boarder oranizations what your arm.
Here you go Christopher and Scotty. These are articles written by Mark Krikorian, a very reputable man who is the Executive Director for Center for Immigration Studies. He often writes on National Review. But then again National Review is a radical right wing organization right founded by the great William Buckley in the 1950’s. I know you are a web Nazi, so here is some reading for you. I usually never copy and paste articles but because you need resources to why I feel the way I do, I will provide some of them to you.
This should hold you over for a while. I know the truth hurts, but like terrible tasting medicine, it is always the best.
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I tried sending those articles, but for whatever reason they would not go through. However go on NationalReview.com and go under Mark Krikorian and look under his archive articles and you will find them there.
Well said Christopher!
The point is who has the better solution. McCain and Bush came up w/ a solution to the illegal immigration problem that was supported by enough Dems that controlled Congress and could pass. They are smart enough to know that you have to negotiate w/ the other team to get anything to pass. As Bill O’Reilly also discussed, does our current system work? I’m not a fan of bogging our system down w/ divisive comments and ideals as some are wanting. If one wants to fix this issue, you got to get the other team to also support it unless you make our sytem a monarchy.
As for Huckabee, I’m not sure what New GOP is looking for? Sounds like a fiscally liberal, social conservative, bass playing preacher who is a pretty good comedian but knows little to nothing about national security and world affairs. Good luck w/ your membership.