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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida Gal,


Well!!  I sure didn't think that the article I quoted was hateful or demeaning and I don't appreciate being attacked.

First of all, I'm proud too that a woman is running for President.  I just don't think that it's right, or even smart, to vote for anyone on the basis of gender or race.  

When I honestly think about it, I am disappointed that the first woman candidate for President doesn't share the kinds of feminist principles that have been important to me.  That includes standing up against war-mongers, even if it is politically risky.  That includes abiding by principles of equity and fairness instead of expediency and favoritism.

And, I think that it's not right to call Hillary a lifelong champion of women, children, and families  when she callously supported the destruction of soldier's families and of Iraqi women, children, and families.  

If I believed then in her idea that "It Takes a Village," I wonder now about the Iraqi villages that have been so irretrievably torn apart.  I wonder about the Afghan villages that were counting on us and believed our promises, and that we have largely abandoned.  When I hear the stories of our soldiers on extended tours or I read about post-traumatic stress, I worry about the state of our once proud American villages.   

Maybe I did want something more from a woman candidate for the highest office in our land.  But, given the enormous opportunities she's had and the strategic and political compromises she's made, Hillary's being a woman is simply not enough.

In the end, I don't think it's enough to just care about the future generations of women in this country.  I care about the future generations.  Period.  

I don't think that our first concern should be putting women closer to the front of the line.  Our first concern should be for creating the moral conditions and material prosperity that means there are better chances for everyone.  I just don't think that Hillary is the candidate to do that.

Sincerely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida Gal,</p>
<p>Well!!  I sure didn&#8217;t think that the article I quoted was hateful or demeaning and I don&#8217;t appreciate being attacked.</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;m proud too that a woman is running for President.  I just don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s right, or even smart, to vote for anyone on the basis of gender or race.  </p>
<p>When I honestly think about it, I am disappointed that the first woman candidate for President doesn&#8217;t share the kinds of feminist principles that have been important to me.  That includes standing up against war-mongers, even if it is politically risky.  That includes abiding by principles of equity and fairness instead of expediency and favoritism.</p>
<p>And, I think that it&#8217;s not right to call Hillary a lifelong champion of women, children, and families  when she callously supported the destruction of soldier&#8217;s families and of Iraqi women, children, and families.  </p>
<p>If I believed then in her idea that &#8220;It Takes a Village,&#8221; I wonder now about the Iraqi villages that have been so irretrievably torn apart.  I wonder about the Afghan villages that were counting on us and believed our promises, and that we have largely abandoned.  When I hear the stories of our soldiers on extended tours or I read about post-traumatic stress, I worry about the state of our once proud American villages.   </p>
<p>Maybe I did want something more from a woman candidate for the highest office in our land.  But, given the enormous opportunities she&#8217;s had and the strategic and political compromises she&#8217;s made, Hillary&#8217;s being a woman is simply not enough.</p>
<p>In the end, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s enough to just care about the future generations of women in this country.  I care about the future generations.  Period.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that our first concern should be putting women closer to the front of the line.  Our first concern should be for creating the moral conditions and material prosperity that means there are better chances for everyone.  I just don&#8217;t think that Hillary is the candidate to do that.</p>
<p>Sincerely.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Clinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!!! 98% of the ObamaNation are gloating and laughing at Hillary's change in Campaign managers. Maybe Hillary should just quit right now, since everyone has stuck a fork in her saying she is done.
You guys have really drunk the Obama Kool-Aid if you think Hillary is going down. This fight has a few more rounds and from here on in, I bet the gloves come off.
They are already working on an Obama sex scandal and drugs use in 1999..yes, ..1999 Look out kids, it's just getting started…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!! 98% of the ObamaNation are gloating and laughing at Hillary&#8217;s change in Campaign managers. Maybe Hillary should just quit right now, since everyone has stuck a fork in her saying she is done.<br />
You guys have really drunk the Obama Kool-Aid if you think Hillary is going down. This fight has a few more rounds and from here on in, I bet the gloves come off.<br />
They are already working on an Obama sex scandal and drugs use in 1999..yes, ..1999 Look out kids, it&#8217;s just getting started…</p>
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		<title>By: Florida gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florida gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne~~   You really make me feel ashamed to be an American woman.  How you can demean another woman and stand there and be proud of your comments is truely sad!  I am proud to have a woman running for President and it is a huge accomplishment for future generations of women in this country.  I may not agree on how you run your household but I am not going to write hateful comments to you to get you to change that fact.  You just shoved us women to the back of the line again.  So much for women getting equal rights in this country hey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne~~   You really make me feel ashamed to be an American woman.  How you can demean another woman and stand there and be proud of your comments is truely sad!  I am proud to have a woman running for President and it is a huge accomplishment for future generations of women in this country.  I may not agree on how you run your household but I am not going to write hateful comments to you to get you to change that fact.  You just shoved us women to the back of the line again.  So much for women getting equal rights in this country hey?</p>
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		<title>By: whydidyoudoit</title>
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		<dc:creator>whydidyoudoit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solis Doyle, is dispensable, she has served her purpose to help us win the latino vote in the big states. We no longer need her or the latino vote to capture the white house. The women vote will now carry the Hillary campaign the rest of  the way. Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton replaced campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle with longtime aide Maggie Williams on Sunday. Ms. Clinton believes Maggie Williams is a better choice to target the women vote. Clinton said in a statement. “I am lucky to have Maggie on board and I know she will lead our campaign with great skill towards the nomination.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solis Doyle, is dispensable, she has served her purpose to help us win the latino vote in the big states. We no longer need her or the latino vote to capture the white house. The women vote will now carry the Hillary campaign the rest of  the way. Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton replaced campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle with longtime aide Maggie Williams on Sunday. Ms. Clinton believes Maggie Williams is a better choice to target the women vote. Clinton said in a statement. “I am lucky to have Maggie on board and I know she will lead our campaign with great skill towards the nomination.”</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found this so interesting, and it really hit home with me!!

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3129/why_women_hate_hillary/


...All of this frames many women’s reactions to Hillary. If she’s a feminist, how could she continue to support this war for so long? If she’s such a passionate advocate for children, women and families, how could she countenance the ongoing killing of innocent Iraqi families, and of American soldiers who are also someone’s children? If it would be so revolutionary to have a female as president, why does she feel like the same old poll-driven opportunistic politician who seems to craft her positions accordingly?

Maybe women like me are being extra hard on Hillary because she’s a woman. After all, baby boomer women couldn’t be “as good” as men in school or the workplace; we had to be better, to prove that women deserved equal opportunities. And this is part of the problem too. We don’t want the first female president to be Joe Lieberman in drag, pushing Bush-lite politics. We expect something better.

Clearly, Hillary and her advisors have calculated that for a woman to be elected in this country, she’s got to come across as just as tough as the guys. And maybe they’re right. But so far, Hillary is not getting men with this strategy, and women feel written off. After the dark ages of this pugnacious administration, many of us want to let the light in. We want a break with the past, optimism, and a recommitment to the government caring about and serving the needs of everyday people. We want what feminism began to fight for 40 years ago—humanizing deeply patriarchal institutions. And, ironically, we see candidates like John Edwards or Barack Obama—men—offering just that. If Hillary Clinton wants to be the first female president, then maybe, just maybe, she should actually run as a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found this so interesting, and it really hit home with me!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3129/why_women_hate_hillary/" rel="nofollow">http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3129/why_women_hate_hillary/</a></p>
<p>&#8230;All of this frames many women’s reactions to Hillary. If she’s a feminist, how could she continue to support this war for so long? If she’s such a passionate advocate for children, women and families, how could she countenance the ongoing killing of innocent Iraqi families, and of American soldiers who are also someone’s children? If it would be so revolutionary to have a female as president, why does she feel like the same old poll-driven opportunistic politician who seems to craft her positions accordingly?</p>
<p>Maybe women like me are being extra hard on Hillary because she’s a woman. After all, baby boomer women couldn’t be “as good” as men in school or the workplace; we had to be better, to prove that women deserved equal opportunities. And this is part of the problem too. We don’t want the first female president to be Joe Lieberman in drag, pushing Bush-lite politics. We expect something better.</p>
<p>Clearly, Hillary and her advisors have calculated that for a woman to be elected in this country, she’s got to come across as just as tough as the guys. And maybe they’re right. But so far, Hillary is not getting men with this strategy, and women feel written off. After the dark ages of this pugnacious administration, many of us want to let the light in. We want a break with the past, optimism, and a recommitment to the government caring about and serving the needs of everyday people. We want what feminism began to fight for 40 years ago—humanizing deeply patriarchal institutions. And, ironically, we see candidates like John Edwards or Barack Obama—men—offering just that. If Hillary Clinton wants to be the first female president, then maybe, just maybe, she should actually run as a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: John Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading some earlier posts regarding Hillary's accomplishments, I didn't see any. 

Hillary has never had to take on responsibility. As a senator, you really don't have to take responsibility. Assuming you take a position on a piece of legislation, you are only 1 of 100 votes. You can vote against something you support, knowing it will pass without your vote, because its politically expedient. That is typical of being a legislator. That is not responsibility. The one vote she had the greatest responsibility for, she now regrets, so she says. As a first lady, you are not asked or expected to take on responsibility. Again, where are her accomplishments? 

Both dem candidates speak of bringing home the troups quckly. But, can they? Whether you agree with the war effort or not, there is a credibility issue at stake for the United States. Pulling troops would likely further destabilize Iraq. Right or wrong, the U. S. made a commitment to Iraq and its people. Shouldn't we honor our commitment? Benchmarks are a good idea. We should hold the Iraqi government's feet to the fire so to speak to ensure benchmarks are met. But, we can't leave a void to be filled by the Islamic radicals.

Regarding the Bush tax cuts, I am open to the idea of revoking them. However, I have seen, first hand, their benefit. I am lower, lower middle class. I know, with the tax cut I received, I can’t start a business. Further, if the government gives me a greater tax cut, it will amount to money I would receive that I didn't pay the government in the first place. Even then, I would not have enough to start a business and provide jobs. The so called rich people in our society have the money to start businesses. I would rather they have the money to invest in the economy than giving the government this money. If the dems revoke the tax cuts, wouldn’t that result in capital investment leaving the economy? How will that investment be replaced? Wouldn’t tax hikes cause further retraction in the economy? Again, I’m open to revoking the tax cuts, but tell me how it will help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading some earlier posts regarding Hillary&#8217;s accomplishments, I didn&#8217;t see any. </p>
<p>Hillary has never had to take on responsibility. As a senator, you really don&#8217;t have to take responsibility. Assuming you take a position on a piece of legislation, you are only 1 of 100 votes. You can vote against something you support, knowing it will pass without your vote, because its politically expedient. That is typical of being a legislator. That is not responsibility. The one vote she had the greatest responsibility for, she now regrets, so she says. As a first lady, you are not asked or expected to take on responsibility. Again, where are her accomplishments? </p>
<p>Both dem candidates speak of bringing home the troups quckly. But, can they? Whether you agree with the war effort or not, there is a credibility issue at stake for the United States. Pulling troops would likely further destabilize Iraq. Right or wrong, the U. S. made a commitment to Iraq and its people. Shouldn&#8217;t we honor our commitment? Benchmarks are a good idea. We should hold the Iraqi government&#8217;s feet to the fire so to speak to ensure benchmarks are met. But, we can&#8217;t leave a void to be filled by the Islamic radicals.</p>
<p>Regarding the Bush tax cuts, I am open to the idea of revoking them. However, I have seen, first hand, their benefit. I am lower, lower middle class. I know, with the tax cut I received, I can’t start a business. Further, if the government gives me a greater tax cut, it will amount to money I would receive that I didn&#8217;t pay the government in the first place. Even then, I would not have enough to start a business and provide jobs. The so called rich people in our society have the money to start businesses. I would rather they have the money to invest in the economy than giving the government this money. If the dems revoke the tax cuts, wouldn’t that result in capital investment leaving the economy? How will that investment be replaced? Wouldn’t tax hikes cause further retraction in the economy? Again, I’m open to revoking the tax cuts, but tell me how it will help!</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Donato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred Donato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please tell me specifically what Mrs Clintons' accomplishments are that are not derivative of Bill Clinton.  Why are we expectd to accept "35 years" without any factual information about what she has actually done. My personal impression of her is that she is quite intelligent, a fine debater as well as an academic.  I also 
detect the same arrogance that is evidenced by our current president.  I have no
interest in a left wing version of George Bush who has achieved very little on her own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell me specifically what Mrs Clintons&#8217; accomplishments are that are not derivative of Bill Clinton.  Why are we expectd to accept &#8220;35 years&#8221; without any factual information about what she has actually done. My personal impression of her is that she is quite intelligent, a fine debater as well as an academic.  I also<br />
detect the same arrogance that is evidenced by our current president.  I have no<br />
interest in a left wing version of George Bush who has achieved very little on her own.</p>
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		<title>By: Pimp My Daughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pimp My Daughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is what happens to you when you watch Faux News. Brain dead...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is what happens to you when you watch Faux News. Brain dead&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: DavMD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacqueline Walsh,

Can you pls cite the exact legislation that HRC "worked on" that "gave children with Special Needs the right to a Free and Appropriate Public Education".  It sounds wonderful, and quite sentimental too (only if it were true), but she was no-where in the 1970s where she could have had any effect on the federal legislative process.  She may have been the typist, but that is not very likely either. In 1973, she was one of 48 junior law graduates working in Edelman's newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts, but not even remotely close to impacting federal policy making. In 1974 she moved to Arkansas, and did not come back to the federal limelight until decades later.

HRC has had a great fog of popular mythology created for her.  Her actual achievements are quite limited, and mostly have to do with polarizing the right wing so badly as to make them even more rabid and aggressive.  She and Bill are perhaps the most polarizing and triangulating political figures in contemporary US politics, and have harmed the liberal and progressive cause more than any of us can imagine.  Time will tell.

And no I am not a Muslim, and my middle name is not Mohammad !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacqueline Walsh,</p>
<p>Can you pls cite the exact legislation that HRC &#8220;worked on&#8221; that &#8220;gave children with Special Needs the right to a Free and Appropriate Public Education&#8221;.  It sounds wonderful, and quite sentimental too (only if it were true), but she was no-where in the 1970s where she could have had any effect on the federal legislative process.  She may have been the typist, but that is not very likely either. In 1973, she was one of 48 junior law graduates working in Edelman&#8217;s newly founded Children&#8217;s Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts, but not even remotely close to impacting federal policy making. In 1974 she moved to Arkansas, and did not come back to the federal limelight until decades later.</p>
<p>HRC has had a great fog of popular mythology created for her.  Her actual achievements are quite limited, and mostly have to do with polarizing the right wing so badly as to make them even more rabid and aggressive.  She and Bill are perhaps the most polarizing and triangulating political figures in contemporary US politics, and have harmed the liberal and progressive cause more than any of us can imagine.  Time will tell.</p>
<p>And no I am not a Muslim, and my middle name is not Mohammad !!</p>
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		<title>By: the watcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>the watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>walsh, you said it your self  joint land deal. joint is the main word not working for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>walsh, you said it your self  joint land deal. joint is the main word not working for him.</p>
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