Clinton Talking Points Play Down Saturday’s Losses
Hillary Clinton’s campaign is trying to shrug off yesterday’s big losses in Washington, Nebraska, Louisiana and the Virgin Islands, telling supporters to keep their eyes on the main prize: delegates.
In the campaign’s daily talking points, surrogates and donors are instructed not to panic. “This is a race for thousands of delegates nationwide — a race Hillary has the support and resources to win.”
“Last night’s results were expected,” the document argues - saying as campaign aides have for the last week that Sen Obama has strong advantages in all the remaining states in February (though officials never predicted such wide victory margins).
And as for whether Obama will start building insurmountable momentum: “So far one set of wins or losses has not had any effect on the next set as we have seen the race see-saw back and forth.”
Read the full talking points below.
Daily Talking Points — Sunday, February 10, 2008
A RACE FOR THOUSANDS OF DELEGATES
* This is a race for thousands of delegates nationwide — a race Hillary has the support and resources to win. Just last night, we announced that we raised an amazing $10 million from 100,000 donors online since Super Tuesday.
* Last night?s results were expected. Senator Clinton had a great night on Super Tuesday, winning states along both coasts and everywhere in between — red and blue, north, south, east and west. Last night and over the next few weeks, the contests favor Sen. Obama. After that, there are a series of bigger states like Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania that favor Hillary.
* So far one set of wins or losses has not had any effect on the next set as we have seen the race see-saw back and forth. At the end of the primaries, we expect to be ahead in delegates. Many states have yet to be heard and we have to resolve the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates.
* With the stakes higher than ever, it is critical that Democrats nominate a candidate who is ready to defeat the Republicans, deliver solutions to the challenges facing the country, fix our economy and end the war. Hillary is that candidate.
* Hillary has the strength and experience to win in November. Hillary has been tested and vetted and is ready to defeat Sen. McCain.
* Candidates that aren’t ready to debate Hillary aren’t ready to provide real solutions to the urgent economic challenges we face.
* Hillary will bring the voices and values of all Americans to the White House.
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Go Hillary. We have been watching the past two weeks. My daughters 25, 17 and 15 cannot believe how you can keep going with every news channel and talking head beating you up, President Clinton and even your Daughter. We are all behind you now STRONGER then ever!!
If you can take on the whole USA News team you have the strength and intestinal fortitude we need as a leader of our country. GOD BLESS YOU.
can any body on the behalf of Mrs Hillary explain me that HOW CAN TAKE OFF US ARMY WITH IN 66 DAYS!!
She is not “HOW CAN TAKE OFF US ARMY WITH IN 66 DAYS”. Within 60 days she is going to meet with the appropriate heads of war and ask for a plan to begin withdrawing our troops by day 60. Hope this helps.
frankly i dont care how many people she can take on…anyone with a great fortitude can take on many, but can they do it efficiently and right is the question and i dont believe Hilary can. Obamas our man ~OBAMA 08; because we need a change~
First off, I am not a member of any political party. I am not representing any person, company or endorsing any candidate. I have no other agenda than to help unite those do not wish to see another Clinton elected President. There is over 40% of the legal voting population in United States oppose the Clintons for numerous reasons, the highest of any candidate.
We should not forget or forgive those actions and attitudes. How long can one blame some right wing conspircy for their poor judgement and never take personal responsibilty for their actions. They were never illegal but always seems to be immoral or bad ethics. Like writing a “non-fictional” book while during her first term or shady investment deals and spy-gate.
She claims of over 30 years of experience…but is it experience that matters or is relevent? She was elected the first term was mere sympathy vote and was not even a real New Yorker. If I remember…Being First Lady either in AK or the White House are NOT an elected position. My grandfather was a farmer for over 30 years perhaps he could have ran for president as well! Don’t forget what she promised the New Yorkers before her second term that she was not running for president and would serve all 6 years….sound familar?
We seem to have a short memory when it comes to the Clintons. If GW Bush wasn’t such a poor president, there would never be this interest in the Clintons again. They are not leaders but only govern only after its a popular majority first. Remember the last days of Slick Willy’s term, they released many criminals and very close friends with those pardons for political contributions and favors? She was very much part of that process. My son was in the Navy right after 8 years of the Clintons, everything was in disrepair because of all the budget cuts and no real knowledge or respect for the military. He avoid serving in the military himself with very poor ethics. Do you think she will be any better???
Ask yourself this….Just what is her stand on the real issues? Are there any real plans than just talk? This sounds like more of the same and not for change. She stays neutral on many issues but promises change but the only platform she has is her own personal one… don’t forget what Bill’s role will be…She’s talked about him being an Ambassador or recent nominating him as a Supreme Court judge…They would present a real problem with power and conflict of interest.
Don’t let apathy allow the Clintons back into the White House.. VOTE!
I agree with you Keith - 100 % !!!!!
Keith, thanks for your comments. It made me support Mrs. Clinton even more!!!! I am sending another $500 to her campaign right now!! Even though you state you are not a member of any political party, you smell like a Republican. I wonder what you take on Mr. Obama is?
HA HA HA… Good one Jordan!!!
“Candidates that aren’t ready to debate Hillary aren’t ready to provide real solutions to the urgent economic challenges we face.” Question - Because Obama doesn’t want to debate Clinton as much as she wants means he’s not ready to provide real solutions? That sounds like an elementary school threat. Barack has the momentum and shocked the Clinton camp. They bellieved he would get votes but not like this. He can pick and choose when he wants to debate. Don’t throw out childish suggestions that he’s is scared in an attempt to help her pay for her campaign.
OBAMA SUPPORTERS—WATCH WHAT OBAMA’S PASTOR HAS TO SAY:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/a-message-of-hate-from-obamas-pastor-via-youtube
GEORGE– OBama is a chicken- IF he really had the back bone he would accept each and every debate to spread his star bright charming spew onto the American people. But, considering he can only accomplish this through his previously written speeches he does not have the confidence to stand on his own, without the prewritten speeches.
You know the old saying: IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK AND LOOKS LIKE A DUCK ITS A DUCK!!
The facts are, Obama doesn’t do well in debates, and one on one against Hillary, he struggles to make his policies know. Hillary raised 10 million dollars in 3 days and much more coming in.
I am still not clear on Obama’s vision. I think more debates are a necessity.
“Within 60 days she is going to meet with the appropriate heads of war and ask for a plan to begin withdrawing our troops by day 60.” HOLD THE HECK UP. During the last national televised debat,e she was asked about a time frame to withdrawal and stated that she could not do that until she gets in office (10 months from now she hopes) and speaks with the Jonit Chiefs and commanders. All the while Barack has stated 18 months. NOW she is changing her mind because WHY? what has changed - oh, I know, Barack’s take on the war and withdrawing troops is what the american people want. Let’s see, the Clinton camp thinks that is a way to get votes? OH YEA, LET ME VOTE FOR HER NOW. She can change with the wind.
George:
Mrs. Clinton is just being realistic. Mr. Obama 18 month withdrawal plan is reckless and theoretically, you can’t bring home all the brigades safely in 18 months. Mrs. Clinton’s plan is responsible and well thought out, not rhetoric to get the anti-war vote.
Keith said:
“There is over 40% of the legal voting population in United States oppose the Clintons for numerous reasons, the highest of any candidate.”
Keith, I guess you’re capable of doing the math…
That means that 60% of the legal voting population don’t oppose the Clintons.
The 40% who hate the Clintons?
They are some of the nastiest people on the face of the planet.
Clinton Haters are probably the #1 reason I support Hillary Clinton. I always like to be seated as far away from idiots as I possibily can.
If you don’t like Clinton, don’t vote for her, Keith. If you sincerely want to know her stand on the issues, she lists her top ten issues right on her website — http://www.HillaryClinton.com.
But contrary to what YOU remember about the Clintons, Keith, here’s what 70% of us remember about the Clintons: 70% of America thought America was going in the right direction when Bill Clinton left office.
The other 30% are Clinton Haters.
They like the direction George W. Bush has taken America instead.
Pick a side, Keith. I urge you not to pick the side of the idiots.
Obama is winning in mostly red states, who will go red in nov., and states with large black populations becuase the media started(nbc/msnbc) statred racial trouble. plus he went begging to oprah for money and support. I don’t think Obama is ready for the Presidency. he’s not experienced enough
VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - PRESIDENT!!!
VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - “ONE AMERICA - UNDER GOD”
VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - DOER FOR ALL PEOPLE….not a preacher.
VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - WILL PRODUCE THE DEMOCRATIC WIN FOR AMERICA.
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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is a black, Muslim, and America appears NOT ready for a black president.
Lots of people seem to believe that this election is about race - black and white.
Lots of people also say that a true civil war will be on the streets of America if Barack Hussein Obama is elected president. I hope that is not true but lots of people say that.
Lots of previous democratic voters also say that they are going to vote for the republican presidential nomination candidate because they will not vote for BARACK NUSSEIN OBAMA, black, Muslin.
Others do NOT believe that BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is committed to America….OneAmerica-Under God……since his past is Muslim.
The last comment people seem to also say is that if Obama does turn out to be the president….that Obama will be killed just as Kennedy and Martin Luther King was killed……that America is not ready for a black president…nor is America ready for another civil war on the streets of America.
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VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - PRESIDENT!!!!
America’s True Presidential Leader - President!!!!
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YOU GO GIRL!!!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!
Hillary Clinton’s “wealth of experience”?……..how many YEARS of that was when she was first lady in Arkansas and in the White House? Sorry, but being married to someone does not transfer the skill(?) of the first person to the second. How many people would hire a surgeon’s spouse to perform surgery?
What experience Mrs. Clinton does have, is not to be lauded…..
……playing the “Poor Me” card constantly,
….. heavily playing the race card in America by trying to pit Americans of Hispanic descent against Americans of African descent,
…..acting like a dishrag each time her husband had yet another affair (as a woman I am disgusted that she is so insecure that she won’t stand on her own feet but must constantly look to her philandering spouse for reassurrance),
…..claiming not to know any of those very dubious characters that her husband pardoned as he left office (a couple at the direct request of her brother), and then accepting thousands of $$$$ in donations from the same characters,
…..signing a pledge to not campaign in MI or FL, to agree that no votes from their primaries would count, going on the radio in New Hampshire and opening saying that yes, she agreed with all that, and NOW demanding that the bogus counts in those states be included,
…..refusing (not just for this past year but for several) to release her income tax returns for public scrutiny as all the other candidates have done,
…..claiming to not take money from lobbyists but regularly doing so and even not requesting her husband to step down from the several big-interest organizations for which he receives $$$$$$$$$ for “advising”,
…..ignoring the Clinton’s close friendship with key players in the corrupt actions at Enron which helped to facilitate the good feeling “house of cards” in the 90’s which when it imploded destroyed the lives of hundreds of good hard-working Americans, and wounded many others,
…………….this SKILL and EXPERIENCE of the Clintons is not wanted or needed by Americans……….
Mrs, Clinton does have one regular record in her list of “experience”……….extremely bad judgment!!!!!
………..oh, by the way…..I am a long-time, active volunteer, big donor Democrat…..so please, none of those ridiculous comments about supporting Bush.
I know a great many good people have succumbed to the “slick talk” of the Clintons but I urge each of you to really go back and look at the real records, not just the props on her website.
Should Mrs. Clinton take the nomination, she will NOTl win in November. Huge numbers of democrats will cross over, Independents will not support her, and the many many good republicans who are supporting Mr. Obama, who has a very good record and a good platform will vote for the other candidate, whomever that will be.
Lady Professor:
Comparing a surgeon to a sitting first lady is comparing apples to oranges. Mrs. Clinton was basically a sounding board for many policy decisions in regard to Mr. Clinton’s presidency, which would surely count as some type of unique White House experience, so you selling her short on that experience is not being quite fair. She does not play the “Poor me” card, but when she or her daughter is attacked, she stands firms and makes it know that type of behavior will not be tolerated. I want that type of tenacity in my president. She has never played the race car and it is commendable she has a large Hispanic following. Only meaning she has developed a strong and positive standing in the Hispanic community. I am proud she decided to work hard to save her marriage. Is Mr. Clinton the only husband to ever cheat on his wife in America? Is Mrs. Clinton the only woman to forgive and go forward in a troubled marriage?
As to all of your other trumped up charges, they are so off base and found less that they don’t even deserve answers. For a lady with the title of Professor, you certainly spew a lot of Anti-Clinton rhetoric and hatred that we have all heard a thousand times. Do you honestly think you can change the mind of even one person who supports Mrs. Clinton?
Hillary 08
What must the world think of our Democracy? For 28 straight years there has been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House. Longer than many voters have been alive! Now we are faced with another possible 8 to make it 34. Show the world that we can change. Vote Obama.
I found more than 80% blacks are voting for Obama to be racial. While about 40% whites voting for him suggests to me that whites basically have no racial line. It is saddening to see this trend.
lady professor, you should check you statement for facts instead of words without support like Obama spew all over.
**Obama claims he does not take from lobbiest, however he does. Hillary never said she did not, part of the polictical process, sorry.
**Obama is not a democrat if he does not recognize the voter of Florida or Michigan, quite frankly it is unconstitutional not to recognize any american citizen vote in any election. Yes it is the party problem to fix, but Obama should be asking them to be seated as well.
**Obama needs to get elected to Pardon Rezko from the Federal charges his friend of 17 years is facing and will be convicted on. We don’t need a President being a chariter witness for this guy.
**Clinton should win, but does not need to win to help American people, she been helping people before this election. Something Obama certainly can not say. Just ask the Ill poor people.
I think the Democrates will crush the McCain if it is Clinton/Obama, but if Obama/ and another VP then Obama losses by alot. He still is a JUNIOR Senator, with Junior thoughts with copycat plans.
Jordan Clinton,
The “poor me” card was played heavily each of the two times Mrs. Clinton ran for the US Senate. Please go back and check her record. You will find it prominently featured in many newspaper articles from across the state of New York.
Regarding the surgeon and spouse analogy, if you believe it is apples and oranges I suggest that you go ahead and contact your physicians spouse for medical attention.
My distain for the Clintons comes from first-hand knowledge of them as individuals, not just some blog I read on the internet, nor hype from a rally. Sorry, but the best most people who really know the Clintons can say is that they are both “morally bankrupt.”
Sorry Cris: I am a 52 year old white male, and as I recall when the Clinton’s were in the White House, we were respected on the world stage. It has only been the last 7 years that we have fallen apart.
Do you think an Obama presidency will bring that much world respect. He is unknown on the world stage and he was raised as a muslin, who later claimed to have converted to Christianity, but no records of his baptism have been found. Let’s hope for the sake of the our nation and the entire world, he is telling us the truth and really is of the Christian faith or God help us all.
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
from the Website:
Barack Hussein Obama is an African-American who has not shared the black American experience and was, by birth and blood, a Muslim for at least 27 years. His politics are rooted in Marx and socialism. He is a master at shaping his own mythology and completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief.
Now, this may all be false accusations and rhetoric, but you can be sure the Republicans will use all of it and more, after they has disposed of Mrs. Clinton.
George, You were voting for Obama anyway, let me guess your are a African American to be polictical correct. Enough said. The war is a non-issue, Obama is a junior senator and was not in office at the time of the vote. He had no vote on the war. He voted for all the war activity since, double standard for him too. All Obama polictical supports voted for the war too.
Go Fish.
Lady Professor: I also know the Clinton’s. I work for Hillary’s campaign. You seem to be disgruntled
and personally disgusted by both of them. So sorry, but I see them as great caring people, and very good politicians, and I fully believe Hillary’s vision for us is the proper one. Obama is unknown, untested, and frankly he scares me with his rhetoric.
You can put your large democratic donation anywhere you’d like, but if your hatred of the Clinton’s is so deep and personal and profound why don’t you become a republican?
Lady Professor you must be Dick Morris, scorn by the Clintons, then spew it all over FOX, too sad too bad. Sad example of a democrat.
Obama preaching the CULT movement will continue fooling the young voters but I certainly hope the Super Deligates will see through it and do the right thing, if not, Democrates will deserve to loss the White House.
It is really ashame that the black voters do not support the Clinton who whole heartly supported them for all these years, but I guess there is a lesson to be learn here, no loality with this group, So Sad.
How do you think sending her money is going to help.? They got enough of there own but they like to suck off other people. And it would be interesting to know where all their ill gotten gains came from but they won’t release the papers. I know of some from China, DuBai and Saudi put in trust to avoid taxes.
Obama will take WI. Gov endorsed him a long time ago. Of course he is a dem and wants the left vote for his election too. Every one is out to scratch their own backs. Thats politics.
If you notice they say Combat troops. Not all troops. Who knows, if conditions are right maybe they’ll be coming back before the general. I see her escape clause. She says she will get the advice of commanders. so, she is covered if it isn’t something she can do. Watch the words she uses. This is all political spin and babble now to get Back in the white house. Playing on emotions instead of reality. If Bill hadn’t ignored the problem of Ben Laden (busy covering his butt about Monica) and if Bush hadn’t inherited a recession who knows how it would be today.
Of course everyone wants the troops home but what we want and what we need are two different things.
Will be very entertaining if the dems have to have a brokered convention. I doubt it. The back room boys will get it fixed by then.
We are voting for a Commandeer in Chief. Let the Historians write the books in the future. If we knew what the future will be we would all be winning the lottery.
Jordan,
Your time knowing the Clintons is probably much shorter than mine and limited only to the campaign. I commend you for working for the candidate of your choice, even if that choice is flawed.
Mr. Obama actually has more years in public office than Mrs. Clinton and his record of achievements is stronger. The “slumlord” that the Clintonistas attempt to attach to Obama has given large sums of $$$ to the Clintons (which they kept). Obama returned to him the money that same person attempted to give to him.
Yes, considering that the Clintons are devoid of any real moral foundations, many democrats will cross over and vote for the republican candidate, the better candidate………oh yes, I am so inspired by you that I just put in another $1000 for Obama ( and three of my friends did too…in the last five minutes!!!!!).
LADY PROFESSOR—FRANKLY MY DEAR, YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP!!!!!
Waht-Who?
You are so funny!!!! Sad but funny.
Here’s Hillary’s top ten list;
10) Name David Shuster my Press Secretary.
9) Appoint Monica Lewinsky Secretary of State.
7) Fire every United States Attorney and replace them with the Rose Law Firm.
6) Appoint Jennifer Flowers Secretary of Foreign Affairs.
5) Give green cards to the first ten million to come out of the shadows.
4) Appoint Sandy Berger Attorney General.
3) Appoint Tony Rezko Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
2) Appoint Emeril Lagasse Treasury Secretary- Because pork fat rules.
1) Apologize once again for a failed Health Care Plan.
Lady Professor, this is my last comment to you because it is becoming more obvious that you are just a Clinton-hater and a troll and not a professor or a lady at all…
Who are you to say my choice is flawed? Maybe your choice of Mr. Obama might be flawed. Only time will tell. The is no proof or any records of Rezko donating directly to the Clinton’s. I dare you to find one scrap of real evidence. The Mayor of Los Angeles took funds in 2001 from him, but you are now spinning it to look like he gave the Clinton’s money directly and that has not been proven. It is proven that Rezko (slumlord,crook) gave Mr. Obama at least $200,000 so far and more to come. Please don’t taint the facts with lies and spin. You sound as bad as you claim the Clinton’s are right now.
If you are a Clinton insider and have this information of donations direct from Rezko, why don’t you contact any of the MSM’s and give them the details, they would love to exploit your claims.
NO LADY PROFESSOR– YOU ARE THE SAD AND TWISTED ONE– YOUR A MUSLIM LOVER AND IF IT WAS KNOWN YOU ARE PROBABLY A MUSLIM YOURSELF…PEOPLE ARE NOT DUMB LIKE YOU!
Jordan,
Again, all you have to do to check any of my comments is to check public records…..
I have checked the public records. I have found nothing on your claim of Rezko money given to the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign Please give me a link where you can verify funds from Rezko went directly oi Hillary’s current presidential campaign. I would love to be enlightened. Otherwise stop with your spin and lies and stick to the issues.
Unbelievable… I like the way Obama’s campaign or he, himself, removed the video portion of his pastor talking in the vehicle. But, you can still read the outline of what his pastor said, word for word. Obama just didn’t want you all to recognize his pastors voice so he can say it was not him. This is who the Obama lovers want our next President to be? There are soooo many gullible and naive people in this country. Yeah, Obama is for change alright, he is going to take this country to a whole new destructive level!!
Oh, and by the way, Obama hates white American’s—I hope you all feel as stupid as you look!
What Who,
Sorry to disappoint you……not a muslim, nor a supporter of that faith. I have however read the Koran and because I have, know that people who share a belief in a ‘higher power” and actively practice those beliefs are generally good people. The people who attacked the US on 911 would not be considered true muslims by people of the muslim faith any more than the people who bombed Oklahoma City would be considered good baptists by their church.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/a-message-of-hate-from-obamas-pastor-via-youtube
Jordan Clinton - May I ask why anyone that posts information that shows even the slightest bit of information that might make one dig deeper on Hillary - You attack them as a Clinton-Hater?
It is your right to support Clinton and do your very best to get her elected…but your appraoch looks like the same scorched-earth approach that has hurt other candidiates in the past. Support Clinton - don’t attack others; provide facts not annecdotes - make it real and people will listen…
LADY PROFESSOR—You just proved my point!!
Thanks
States Popular Votes Clinton Ahead by 604,577 votes
Clinton 8,942,330
Obama 8,337,753
Caucuses State Delegate Votes Obama Ahead by 174,501
Clinton 155,677
Obama 330,178
Pledged Delegates Obama Ahead by 33 Pledged Delegates
Clinton 918
Obama 885
Super Delegates Clinton Ahead by 92 Super Delegates
Clinton 223
Obama 131
For those of you who think Obama is the popular candidate, the voters do not think so
Clinton is way ahead by super delegates….
Clinton is only 33 pledged delegates behind
Now—Florida and Michigan are Clintons
You might contact ABC regarding Resko. There was a discussion on it the other evening. Unlike you, I am signing off now. Some of us work for a living. I have some graduate students to meet with in the AM.
Tod: Let’s be fair here. Lady Professor is making claims that Hillary took money direct from Rezko, which is a lie. I will defend my candidate of choice against lies. I am not “attacing” lady professor in any way on a personal level. I asked her to provide a link with these facts, nothing more.
You believe in the Koran Lady Professor? Hmmm…thats not good!! Try reading the outline, posted above, about the kind of Pastor that Obama looks up to. You may want a refund on the donation you say you made!!
This Lady Professor is a fake and if she really is influencing young students she needs to be fired!!
Thanks Lady Professor. I knew you couldn’t provide me with any link or factual information. I also have a job, but in the USA it is Sunday, my day off.
Jordan - You are correct - the facts support your position…but keep in mind how it might look to “call names” vs. present the truth…
Lady Professor - The Clintons did not take money from Rezko - one of their team did in PAST Mayoral race… http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/31/clinton-campaign-co-chair-la-mayor-took-donations-from-rezko/
The real issue here is that Hillary may have used a poor talking point - so has every other candidiate. Hilary and every other candidate is provided infromation that sometimes falls short of perfect. Does that make her a poor choice for leader? If yes - then we have no good choice…
Southern Girl - Please - let us not attack reading or believing in the koran…where does that lead us?
This says it all folks, Ohio, Virgina, Maryland voter, heed this example Obama is lead by.
Obama’s spiritual adviser, Jeremiah Wright Jr. of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, recently presented Nation of Islam founder Louis Farrakhan with a “Lifetime Achievement” award. Farrakhan has expressed consistent anti-Israel views.
Wright, who reportedly married Obama and baptized his daughters, has called for divestment from Israel and refers to Israel as a “racist” state.”
Obama called Wright’s heralding of Farrahkan a “mistake” but has not spoken out against Wright’s views regarding Israel.
Jerusalem Post columnist Caroline Glick noted in a column last week, “Obama has taken no steps to moderate his church’s anti-Israel invective. Obama’s affiliation with Wright aligns with his choice of financial backers and foreign policy advisers. To varying degrees, all of them exhibit hostility towards Israel and support for appeasing jihadists.”
Thanks Tod, or is this really Aaron… Take care, and I appreciate you sane and positive comments.
There is so much to share that is fact based and SUPPORTIVE - attacks are not the way.
Would you appreciate if Hillary were attacked because she has never spoken out against Bill’s infidelity, dishonesty with her and the American people. I am sure that Obama is the same in “spoken out against Wright’s views regarding Israel.”
How does any candidate respond to every little bit of anything that is alleged? - Impossible.
Lets remind of Hillary’s positive…
I don’t like how Obama’s wife says she won’t support Hillary if she is named the candidate?
Does that sound like a making of a First Lady???
Tod~ Are you saying that you believe in the writings in the Koran?
I am saying that I will not attack anyone based on the freedom’s of religion that have been protected by and that started this wonderful country that I aproud to be a part of - America.
I understand what you are saying Tod, but we use the holy bible here in the United States because that is our belief. No way in hell will I ever want to see the Koran used here in our country. I do agree that Obama is using his new found Christian religion as a way to influence votes and nothing more. I read the outline on youtube from Obama’s pastor, Wright, and I think Fox, MSNBC and CNN need to put Obama to the test and ask him why his pastor/mentor would say such terrible things. After all, if it was Hillary they would be all over that story! You know that’s right..
Hillary Clinton Takes Cash From Recipients of Husband’s Controversial Pardons
By JAKE TAPPER
Nov. 15, 2007 — Three recipients of controversial 11th-hour pardons issued by former President Bill Clinton in January 2001 have donated thousands of dollars to the presidential campaign of his wife, Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., according to campaign finance records examined by ABC News, in what some good government groups said created an appearance of impropriety.
“It’s not illegal,” Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told ABC News. “But, of course, it’s inappropriate and she should return the money. It does raise the appearance that this is payback.
“One can only hope that she wasn’t yet aware of who made the donations,” said Sloan.
“We have raised over $65 million from over 200,000 people,” said Clinton campaign manager Howard Wolfson, adding sarcastically, “I appreciate your bringing the instance of this $5,300 and these three people to our attention.”
Pardonees Donate to Clinton
One of the pardonees who has become a donor to Sen. Clinton is David Herdlinger, a former prosecutor in Springdale, Ark., who, according to press accounts at the time of his pardon pleaded guilty in 1986 to mail fraud after taking bribes to reduce or drop charges against defendants charged with drunken driving offenses.
Now a life and business coach in Georgia, Herdlinger was pardoned by President Clinton in January 2001; he donated $1,000 to Sen. Clinton’s presidential campaign in August.
Insurance agent Alfredo Regalado, who gave Hillary Clinton $2,000, was pardoned by her husband for failing to “report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States,” according to the Department of Justice.
Allegedly Mishandled Government Secrets
John Deutch is a different case, having served as President Clinton’s CIA director.
Pardoned by President Clinton for charges he had mishandled government secrets — but before the Department of Justice could file the proper paperwork against him — Deutch, now a professor at MIT, gave Sen. Clinton the maximum allowable donation, $2,300…
Controversial Pardons
The 177 pardons and commutations President Clinton issued in the closing hours of his presidency in January 2001 ignited a firestorm of controversy, most especially the one issued for financier Marc Rich, considered the biggest tax cheat in history, whom Rudy Giuliani had successfully indicted as a U.S. attorney.
But other controversies more closely involved Hillary Clinton.
In August 2000, during her first Senate run, Clinton met with the Hasidic community in New Square, where many members were working to obtain clemency for four members of their community who had been convicted of stealing tens of millions of dollars from the state and federal government.
The town overwhelmingly voted for Clinton, and in January 2001, the four men were granted clemency. Hillary Clinton had met with members of the community in August 2000, but said the issue did not come up.
The subject of clemency was raised in a December 2000 meeting between President Clinton and Sen.-elect Clinton, and leaders of the village, but the outgoing-first lady said at the time she had no opinion.
In June 2002, then-U.S. attorney James Comey closed an investigation into the matter with no action against anyone.
Clinton’s Brothers Paid
Hillary Clinton’s brother Hugh Rodham, was paid approximately $200,000 from Almon Glenn Braswell, whom President Clinton pardoned for mail fraud and perjury, as was Carlos Vignali, whose sentence for cocaine trafficking was commuted. News of his involvement in the pardon controversy prompted an outrage in Washington, D.C.
“I knew nothing about my brother’s involvement in these pardons,” Sen. Clinton said at the time. “I knew nothing about his taking money for his involvement.”
The Clintons asked Hugh Rodham to return the cash, which he did.
Hillary Clinton’s brother Tony Rodham was paid $244,769 over 2½ years by a carnival company, United Shows of America, owned by Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory. The Gregorys had been convicted of bank fraud and were seeking pardons. Tony Rodham has said he mentioned their pardon application to his brother-in-law, who ultimately granted the Gregorys a pardon. But Rodham said he was not paid for anything having to do with the pardon…
It never stops, does it?
But note how quickly the DNC/Soros front known as CREW jumps into the story to defend Mrs. Bill Clinton in the guise of criticizing her:
“It’s not illegal,” Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told ABC News. “But, of course, it’s inappropriate and she should return the money. It does raise the appearance that this is payback.
“One can only hope that she wasn’t yet aware of who made the donations,” said Sloan.
Mind you, this is the same group who crucified Mark Foley for emailing some of the young men who used to work for him.
But Hillary will get a pass for this, like she does for everything else.
After all, she’s didn’t know anything about it. Just like she never does.
Mike - The Koran is used here. Like it or not we are a country based on andcreated by the freddom of Religion. My message is no different whether Obama, Hilary, Republican, Democrat, Independent is attacked. The constitution is clear on this.
Every candidiate needs to be vetted - I agree. We must know where they stand. Unfortunately - this will never happen with them all. So supporters must share the truth - factual and without emotion. Asked how I “feel” - I can give all the emotion I have!
The media will always be biased toward the sensational. Again you are right - if it were today this would likely be a bigger story against Hillary.
With all that, I stand fast. Facts, truth and the real story - that is what I believe Open Americans want.
M — Does that M stand for Muslim supporter? Sure sounds like it to me!!
CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO HILLARY TRULY CANNOT BE PAYING ATTENTION. SHE HAS BEEN ON EVERY SIDE OF EVERY ISSUE THAT MIGHT GET HER VOTES. SHE HAS THE CONVICTIONS OF THE LATEST POLL. SHE HAS TO CONSULT WITH THE JOINT CHIEFS THEN SHE IS GETTING OUT STARTING IN 60 DAYS.
SHE DID NOT KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN WAS ALREADY ELECTED. SHE WANTS TO FREEZE MORTGAGE RATES FOR 5 YEARS! NOBODY WOULD GET A MORTGAGE FOR 5 YEARS! THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES WOULD CRUSH US. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.
IT WOULD ALSO BE NICE TO KNOW HOW SHE IS WORTH BETWEEN 10 TO 50 MILLION DOLLARS? CAN’T SHE COUNT? IN RESPONSE TO ENDLESS SCANDALS SHE SAID THEY WERE BROKE. WHEN THEY LEFT THE WHITE-HOUSE THERE WERE NO PAYMENTS FOR PARDONS. THAT LEAVES THE LAST 7 YEARS. WITH FEDERAL AND STATE TAXES THEY WOULD NEED 100 MILLION TO NET 50 MILLION. WHERE DID IT COME FROM.? IF THERE IS NOTHING TO HIDE WHY WON’T SHE SHOW US????????????????????????
Earlier today Hillary Clinton discussed her new book coming out this month titled;
Sex-Lies-and if only they had Video Tape?
My Mom died of cancer before the elections began. I donated part of my inheritance to HILLARY because mom adored her. Mom spoke often of HLLARY”S courage under fire, her hard work, and her compassion for ALL people. Also, Mom told me that, in the 1970’s, HILLARY worked on the the legislation that gave children with Special Needs the right to a Free and Appropriate Public Education. I am a Special Education teacher now. It is heartwarming to know that my students are in my class because HILLARY is their champion.
For information On Obama involvement with Renzo the Slum Landlord-Go to CNN.com Fact check. There was a televised story. Obama has had a friendship with Renzo for 17 years. Renzo was Obama’s original campaign financer. Obama and Renzo “traded political favors” when Obama was in the Illinois Senate. Renzo and Obama entered into a joint land deal together-they bought neigboring houses WAY below market price on the same day.
So, when Obama said “I only worked for him for 5 hours as an intern” (South Carolina debate)-wouldn’t this be a lie???
HATE for ANYONE is NOT an American value. Let’s stick to the facts.
blondshag you said black and muslim like you can die from it.there is a hold world outside of the US, its sad that you said that.I HOPE people like you will wake up.the thinking of the past is over and judge on action not what thay look like.
there nothing to that. if you want to read something checkout whitewater that just 1 of the of many things the clintons lied about
walsh, you said it your self joint land deal. joint is the main word not working for him.
Jacqueline Walsh,
Can you pls cite the exact legislation that HRC “worked on” that “gave children with Special Needs the right to a Free and Appropriate Public Education”. It sounds wonderful, and quite sentimental too (only if it were true), but she was no-where in the 1970s where she could have had any effect on the federal legislative process. She may have been the typist, but that is not very likely either. In 1973, she was one of 48 junior law graduates working in Edelman’s newly founded Children’s Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts, but not even remotely close to impacting federal policy making. In 1974 she moved to Arkansas, and did not come back to the federal limelight until decades later.
HRC has had a great fog of popular mythology created for her. Her actual achievements are quite limited, and mostly have to do with polarizing the right wing so badly as to make them even more rabid and aggressive. She and Bill are perhaps the most polarizing and triangulating political figures in contemporary US politics, and have harmed the liberal and progressive cause more than any of us can imagine. Time will tell.
And no I am not a Muslim, and my middle name is not Mohammad !!
This thread is what happens to you when you watch Faux News. Brain dead………..
Can someone please tell me specifically what Mrs Clintons’ accomplishments are that are not derivative of Bill Clinton. Why are we expectd to accept “35 years” without any factual information about what she has actually done. My personal impression of her is that she is quite intelligent, a fine debater as well as an academic. I also
detect the same arrogance that is evidenced by our current president. I have no
interest in a left wing version of George Bush who has achieved very little on her own.
Reading some earlier posts regarding Hillary’s accomplishments, I didn’t see any.
Hillary has never had to take on responsibility. As a senator, you really don’t have to take responsibility. Assuming you take a position on a piece of legislation, you are only 1 of 100 votes. You can vote against something you support, knowing it will pass without your vote, because its politically expedient. That is typical of being a legislator. That is not responsibility. The one vote she had the greatest responsibility for, she now regrets, so she says. As a first lady, you are not asked or expected to take on responsibility. Again, where are her accomplishments?
Both dem candidates speak of bringing home the troups quckly. But, can they? Whether you agree with the war effort or not, there is a credibility issue at stake for the United States. Pulling troops would likely further destabilize Iraq. Right or wrong, the U. S. made a commitment to Iraq and its people. Shouldn’t we honor our commitment? Benchmarks are a good idea. We should hold the Iraqi government’s feet to the fire so to speak to ensure benchmarks are met. But, we can’t leave a void to be filled by the Islamic radicals.
Regarding the Bush tax cuts, I am open to the idea of revoking them. However, I have seen, first hand, their benefit. I am lower, lower middle class. I know, with the tax cut I received, I can’t start a business. Further, if the government gives me a greater tax cut, it will amount to money I would receive that I didn’t pay the government in the first place. Even then, I would not have enough to start a business and provide jobs. The so called rich people in our society have the money to start businesses. I would rather they have the money to invest in the economy than giving the government this money. If the dems revoke the tax cuts, wouldn’t that result in capital investment leaving the economy? How will that investment be replaced? Wouldn’t tax hikes cause further retraction in the economy? Again, I’m open to revoking the tax cuts, but tell me how it will help!