Firefighters target Rudy in new Florida mailer
Naples, FL — The International Association of Fire Fighters sent out their first direct mail to Florida voters today attacking Rudy Giuliani’s judgment and pre/post 911 leadership.
In the mailer, they declare: “Rudy Giuliani isn’t qualified to be President. he shamelessly uses the events of 9/11 for his own political gain. The truth is, Giuliani used poor judgment leading up to and on the day of the attacks. He was unprepared to protect New York, and he is unprepared to lead our country.”
The mailer–which includes a photo of Giuliani’s back turned–specifically targets the former New York City mayor for showing “bad judgment” and hiring “unqualified yes-men” and includes a testimonial quote from the father of a firefighter who died on 9/11 who calls Rudy a “coward.”
The piece targets 178,000 Republican women between the ages of 40 and 80 (security moms), according to IAFF President Harold Schaitberger. IAFF members have been protesting Giuliani at several of his Florida events during the last few weeks.
The IAFF–a union that includes 288,000 members—leans Democrat and endorsed Chris Dodd for president last year. In 2004 they endorsed John Kerry. Even so, Schaitberger says that the IAFF has only historically promoted their candidate and has rarely run a campaign opposing others.
“This is very unusual and rare for us. We have a history of supporting candidates, not opposing them,” he said in a phone interview. “But Giuliani’s actions in our view were so egregious that we decided this is in one of the times we had to go after somebody.”
The IAFF has been waiting for Rudy in Florida for a few months and Schaitberger said, “we will be dogging him till the 29th.”
Update: Giuliani campaign responds…
“I’m supporting Rudy Giuliani because of the things he’s done. Jim Riches and IAFF do not speak for me or for all firefighters. Firefighters from across the country are supporting Rudy Giuliani for all the things he has done to advocate for firemen and first responders and that he will do for us as President of the United States.” –campaign national firefighter chair, Larry Peterson. (Also a division chief with the Jacksonville Fire Department.)
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They should change the title to “DEMOCRATIC FIREFIGHTERS UNION ATTEMPTS A SWIFTBOAT ATTACK AIMED AT RUDY!” pathetic!!!
I’m sorry for Mr. Riches’ loss, but his attack on the Mayor is political hackery of the worst kind. I’d like Mr. Riches to tell us what Mayor Giuliani should have done prior to 9-11 to prepare for a terrorist attack. As a deputy chief, maybe Mr. Riches could tell us how he personally was “preparing” for a terrorist attack in the days prior to 9-11. What a partisan stooge. He disgraces the service of his son far worse than he accuses Giuliani of doing.
The qualifications for eligibility for the office of President of the United States, per Article II Section I of the US Constitution:
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Enough said.
unbelievable that these morons are basically admitting that they are democrats !!!!Well, this goes to show you who the dems are actually afraid of !!!! its not mccain !!! how braindead to admit that you are predominate democrat and then proceed to bash a republican>>>>these goons have probably helped rudy amongst GOPers..listen, when a democrat goes out of their way to bash a republican (and its not the general election yet), it tells me that the dem party doesnt want rudy to win !!!
I have been stating this for months and finally someone in the profession come out and calls Rudy on his claim that he can lead the nation against terrorism. He has never fought or even hunted for a terrorist. He and New York Firefighters, Police and public employees did a great job AFTER the attacks. But Rudy was incharge of the clean up. That is all. He has no real life For Profit Economic experience to run on against the Democrats in Nov. Its the Economy stupid and as all of the Democratic candidates stated in the South Carolina Democratic Debates ‘they all can beat McCain which means they know they can all beat Rudy.’ They would have called Rudy on the carpet for his fighting terrorism claim. Now the Democrats do not have to and its back to the Economy Stupid and the Democrats know McCain has to platform and does not know how to the get the economy running at full steam - He voted against the Bush tax plan that shot the economy up like a rocket. McCain VOTED against the greatest ecomonic recovery in the last 5 years.
The Democrats can’t run on the economy issue either as they know that Mitt Romney will nail them on the fact that Bill Clinton did nothing for the economy. He and the democrats lucked out that the internet took off during his years. Pres. Clinton had nothing to do with the internet economy - it was the universities and Republican businessmen that made the economy take off.
This why they are stating ‘it looks like McCain will win the Republican nomination and we can easily beat him. It is a Bait and Switch tactic. They want McCain to win because no one wants to run against Romney with the economy being the main issue in November. They want McCain because he is only a spender of peoples money and never has run his own For Profit business. McCain running the economy is like be running a war. Failure by both.
Romney is the only Republican candidate that can defeat the Democrats woman and black platform. Yes that is the Democrat’s platform as they have no other platform to get votes.
A vote for McCain, Huckabee & Rudy is a vote for a Democrat in the White House in 2009 and complete democrat control of DC. Your taxes are going to sky rocket to pay for all the Democrat fat cats meals and hand outs.
In Florida, a high vacation and retirement state, it is surprising that McCain is even getting any support as he is anti-business which means your retirement funds drop in value and your dividends go away as companies pull them back due to economic downturn.
This is a pathetic SWIFTBOAT attack and its all hogwash!!! As chief firefighter doesn’t he have as much if not more responsibility for the “lack of preparedness” BTW, No one in the US was prepared for 9/11, how in the heck was Rudy suppose to know this would happen?
This is a liberal hatchet job and its shameful!
Rudy isn’t qualified and neither are the even more liberal Huckabee and McAmnesty. Most Fredheads have now united behind Romney. Only someone who will actually govern as a conservative should get the Republican nomination. Go Mitt!
I recently played golf in Florida with a retired NYC firefighter. I told him I’m a Guiliani supporter, and I hoped he didn’t hold that against me. He indicated that Giuliani is a good candidate, and what the firefighters union is doing to undermine Giuliani is bogus.
I don’t know that what the Firefighters are doing is bogus. The have a beef with Rudy that in their eyes is legitimate. I had heard this was going to happen, but I was told that the IAFF was going to hold off until November should Rudy get the nomination. If you remember, that’s what the SwiftBoaters did, they kept their mouth shut until Kerry was the presumptive nominee. Republicans should be glad that the IAFF is rolling out their attacks now thus giving GOP voters a better chance to assess their chances of winning with Rudy G.
I’m certain that Rudy can’t win it and here is why: http://politiporn.com/2008/01/21/first-the-bald-truth/#comment-125
These accusations about the firefighters who had inadequate radios dying and those who didn’t getting out safely have been going around for a long time and so was the complaint about Giuliani making the WTC the city’s emergency center, knowing it was a terrorist target and had been attacked in the past. Has anyone heard the press even mention it in this campaign or bring it up in the debates? Rudy’s whole thing is about 9-11, he reminds us of it constantly, so they’ve had plenty of opportunity to bring it up. I haven’t seen anything. Why the cover up by the NY media?
And why don’t firefighters and swiftboat vets have as much a right to free speech as politicians or you do? Are some of you people trying to turn this into a fascist country? I don’t think we are free to lie, so want to know about the radios. The rest of what they said in this ad are facts, as far as I know.
If this was a ploy by Democrats to get a Democrat elected, they would have saved it for the general election. Maybe it’s an act of revenge. All I care about is the truth, let’s figure it out.
I think we’re missing something here…..Rudy did pick up the pieces after 911 in a very effective manner, proving……Whoever wins the Presidential Election next year needs to appoint Rudy to head up Homeland Security! He’s ideally suited for this job, unlike the one he’s currently vying for.
Just want to say I disagree with what they said about Giuliani exploiting 9-11, he was the mayor, he has a right to point to his record during that time. Just saying that leads me to believe the motives for this are vindictive, but I still want to know about the radios.
Ron paul won’t let you guy’s down Ron Paul will open investigations
RonPaul2008.com
“They didn’t attack us because we are free and prosperous, they attacked us because we were over there.”
Ron Paul
It’s true, hundreds of Firemen died, but not the policement, because their radios worked. Rudy replaced bad radios with more bad radios using a no-bid contract. He also used building #7, and thereafter, the owner donated $100K to Rudy. See the video which catches Rudy lying about all of this. He did clean up the mess, in a hurry, instead of allowing for a complete investigation, thus, many body parts were sent to the dump. He was more interested in getting Wall Street back on track, then tracking body parts. Do you really want someone who dresses up in drag to be President?
I’am glad these Fire fighter are exposing him,”Rudy said the air was clean on 9/11″,when in fact it wasn’t,so many people are developing problems with there lungs and dying because the air wasn’t safe to breath that day , he never replace the Fire Dept. with new radios ,”and”if he had!!, a lot more NY.Fire Fighters would be alive today ,and he was also cought on video saying he knew that building 7 was coming down….So for these other Fire fighters from Jacksonville Fl. they have know Idea who they are supporting ,because they were not in NY. on 9/11 that day and did not lose family members ..”Even his own kids doesn’t want to vote for him”,that tells you lot about this man….Crime in NY. was clean up by Mayor Dinkins,right before Rudy came in, so he is just taking credit for what Dinkins did when he was Mayor, (we don’t need some one like that in the White house ,we’re trying to clean it out ,not add more dirt in it”)
I personally support Mitt Romney, but I am stunned at the underhandedness of those who oppose a candidate. Can we please stick to the issues? This is appalling.
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Who cares if they are Democrats or not? The Dems have nothing to gain from smearing Rudy Guiliani in the primary. He is in last place and will not likely win FL (I am a NE FL resident). I do agree with this mailer. He is a self-promoter with no Republican ideals. He does not represent the platform and I hope he crashes and burns in Florida. There are very few candidates that I believe could beat the Hillary train. One just dropped out and another I am concerned may be in this race for the wrong reasons. In my Republican mind the only person I can vote for is Mr. Conservative Ron Paul. Barry Goldwater would be proud to see Dr. Paul carrying on his legacy with such enthusiasm.
There are still many unexplained issues around the events of September 11th, 2001. In addition, there are also questions to be asked about how thorough the investigations were. Start from seeing the good in people, but if people do not answer questions then Americans have a right to ask more. It should be the global media’s role to ask questions when politicians don’t. So let me give you an example.
On January 11th 2008 member of Parliament Fujita Yukihisa of the Japan Democratic party, made a 20 minute long statement at the House of Councillors, the upper house of the Diet (parliament) of Japan. He questioned the official version of 9/11 presented to the Japanese government and the public by the US administration in a session of the defense commission. It would appear that two planes causing three collapses in New York is causing them some concern.
Now, I am not a conspiracy theorist…. but why has this not been reported on our news stations or in our printed media? I live in the UK and have been trying to get radio stations to talk about this but they will not. A blind eye is being turned to the issues.
To stunned - Rudy made his handling of 9-11 the issue, he’s using it as a reason to vote for him, so it is fair to question what he did. But it also fair to question people’s motives who are speaking out against him and try to discern what is true and what isn’t, what was reasonable to expect of him under the circumstances and what wasn’t, etc. I don’t think this ad was really necessary, but to pretend that politicians have a right to free speech and citizens don’t is fascist and I am stunned that so many of you are buying into that unConstitutional kind of oppression, including John McCain, Diane Feingold, and Fred Thompson who voted for their bill.
I agree with some of what these firefighters are saying, but not other things. They are also union and supporting Democrats, that makes no sense considering how the Clintons stripped our military and they were the ones in power when the CIA/FBI and ICE was such a mess, a problem which Bush inherited when he became president and led to 9-11, to begin with! No, I do not think they are completely honest, neither is Giuliani, and take it from there…
Ron Paul people think if they just pile on the internet and lie enough, we will believe what they say. A bunch of kids who didn’t study history, civics or the Constitution and can’t tell the difference between his opinions and reality. It’s not working, you are wasting your money, we don’t want him. He also has a long history of far right racism and you supporters trying to spread bigotry all over to steer people away from Mitt Romney is disgusting. Eat our dust. Ron Paul only got as many votes as he did in Nevada, because he wants to legalize prostitution, so grow up.
Just one more comment to this fire chief:
My father in law was a *volunteer* fire chief, he didn’t take one dime for his service and they held big auctions every year to raise money to pay for the equipment they needed. So do our volunteer firefighters in this town. If YOU knew your radios were inadequate, then it was YOUR JOB to see that they got new ones and not send them into those towers without them. I wonder how much of this is a cover for personal guilt, frankly. I’m sorry about your loss, but seeking revenge and pretending you or your own political side is completely innocent is not right, either. Get real. The Lord cannot comfort you if you do not follow in His Way. Turn to Him and find healing. Again, I’m so sorry, but you are pushing too far.
So, you all are calling the NYFD a bunch of morons? 5 years ago, this same bunch of right-wing extremists were calling the NYFD “heros” for their bravery on 9/11.
What a bunch of wishy washy people you are. You call yourselves conservative? You make me want to puke. Rudy is gun grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, big spending politician that hires unqualified yes men (Bernard Kerrick). He is no friend of the American people, nor of Republicans. That is unless you’re an investment banker, the largest single financier of his campaign.
Wake up. Rudy is a member of the Council on Foreign relations.
Finally, who knows Rudy and his true policies better than people who worked under him, regardless of political affiliation.
Rudy stinks to high heaven of corruption (Bernard Kerrick, Guiliani parters).
I pray to God that this corrupt character does not get the Republican nomination.
Conservatives in this country have forgotten the meaning of the word. Honor and follow the Constitution, defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. Rudy is another neocon, an enemy of the Constitution, just like his buddy W. By the way, how many times has this so-called Catholic been married and cheated on his wife? IF he cannot honor a marriage vow, how can we expect him to honor any oath?
Here’s a real treasure: Rudy on Freedom: “Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.”
That’s a fascist concept if ever there was one. Right wing extremism and conservatism are two different things.
Wake up guys, this is not an attack for Democrats gain. They have nothing to win. Rudy wanted to scoop and dump the firefighters remains in the Statan Island landfill, when the Firefighters took to the street to protest, Rudy had them arrested. The video tell a lot more.
You owe it to the NY city firefighters to watch their video exposing Rudy Giuiliani as fraud. They are asking you please, DO NOT VOTE for him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I
Democractic Union?
The IAFF supports more republicans than any other union!
Get the facts straight.
To post (AMERICAN WOMEN) Get real!!,Obvious you Dont know any thing about Ron paul history,what i think you should do is stop slandering his name to make Mitt Romney look like an angle,because he’s far from it..First of all Ron Paul Doesn’t Flip Flop like Romney ,( 2nd ) unlke Romney, Ron Paul doesn’t accept lobbyist from Wasington, and “Mitt Romney seems to worry more about his hair then he does about the American People”….”Before you spread lies about Ron Paul ,get your fact straight”!!..
he doesn’t have a history of far right racism,(PROVE it!!) and trust me you could look for ever, and you would not find anything on him.”maybe one article that was not written by him but had his name on it,(and that was “dismiss”) …Now lets talk about the Constitution, You need to research this document very carefuly,because unlike you Ron Paul is an expert on the Constitution, AKA “Champion of the Constitution” that means he’s the only candidate that story the Constitution…Ron Paul came in 2nd in Nevada because it’s a liberal state, Prostitute has rights too,”Ron Paul doesn’t want to legalize Prostition,He want to keep the Gov. out of the states business and our lives,now that’s Constitutional!.. .So Please stop lying and stop name calling,”The lord cannot comfort you if you dont follow his way”.
The Dems have everything to gain by smearing Giuliani. He is their worst nightmare GOP candidate to go against because he has real positive records of changes that he has done. Either Hillary or Obama can claim that they have indeed implement major changes that has turned one of the largest populated city and economy around….In fact, no one in this race can claim this. These attacks are ridiculous and will surely back-fired. Blaming Rudy for bad radios…..and btw, Rudy’s team is too gentle…they should point out that the 911 commission report clearly stated that the fire fighter’s casualties were not due to faulty radios. Did we forget! radical islamic terrorists killed these fire fighters along with thousands of men, women and children…..Not Rudy! For this liberal organization to have the audacity to send out fliers to conservative republicans and claim that Rudy caused deaths on 911 while giving the actual terrorists a pass is a slap in the face. This is typical liberal twisted fantasies and lies. Appealing to americans to forget that thousand of their innocent brothers and sister died all because they are americans citizens and point the finger to the one man that showed incredible coolness, calm and leadership during the worst crisis in our history is nonsense. Want to know who the liberals fear in this election? Look at the candidate they attack the most. God bless Rudy 2008
The add is distastful. But I have said and said that on issues that matter to me Guiliani is a raging liberal, and does not support or represent the values the replublican party espouses.
I admit I am more conservative than most, but my voice counts too, so while I am not sure who will get my vote, odds are it will more a matter of voting against guiliani and other lefters, and to a lesser extent trying to find a conservative who is tough enough to do the job. (lets huckabee out, sorry.)
One more thing, I tried the website that asks you questions about abortion, gay marriage, faith etc. then matches your candidate. Duncan Hunter seems to speak for me. I just wish he had been heard in the debates. Maybe others would have heard him speak for them too.