Obama’s Ropeline Question
Senator Obama does not have frequent media availabilities with his traveling press corps, so sometimes intrepid reporters have to find a way to get close enough to throw a question to the senator at events. That’s what the New York Times’ Jeff Zeleny did Tuesday in Greenwood, South Carolina. Zeleny and several other reporters stood near the ropeline, where Obama greeted voters following his rally.
Zeleny, who has intermittently covered Obama since 2004, lobbed a question as Obama signed autographs for supporters. “Are you allowing President Clinton to get into your head?”
Obama grinned. “I am trying to make sure that his statements by him are answered. Don’t you think that’s important?” He turned back to sign more Obama signs. Zeleny followed up. “Don’t try cheap stunts like that - come on, Jeff. You’re better than that,” Obama replied.
Zeleny responded that it was his job to ask him questions and noted we haven’t had an opportunity to do so in awhile. Obama continued shaking hands with voters. He came back over to the group of reporters and TV cameras and said, “I will [answer] your question, though. You allowed to talk off the record for a second?” The TV cameras filmed and Zeleny gestured to all the cameras. “It’s hard to do. But I’ll talk, at some point I’ll [answer] your question.”
Obama greeted another voter and then turned back. “But my suspicion is I think the other side must be rattled if they’re continually saying false things about us.” Obama then disappeared behind a curtain.
Watch some of the exchange here:
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Clinton clearly won the Debate! For the most part Obama stumbled through most of the hard line questions. At one point he mumbled for about 2 minutes without the ability to stay on track. It was clear that without a written speech, Obama lacks the ability to seriously debate the facts. And voting 130 times present? Seems Obama rides the fence when it comes to voting, just like he rode the fence last night during the debate. By this I mean the statement made by Obama when it came to his agreeing with Republicans! Then during the debate when this serious issue was presented he once again claimed that’s’ not what he meant?? Again Obama rode the fence and basically voted “Present” on that question. And I see no problem with Former President Clinton helping out with the campaign, seeing that in the Clinton years most of all Americans had it pretty good! The economy was excellent, he drop the deficit and turned it into a surplus. It certainly seems Obama has something to hide and that is he has “NO” experience what-so-ever to run this Country! 130 times on the fence! That should be unacceptable in anyone eyes. And the African American community needs to wake up a understand that it takes experience, leadership and most of all someone who can make hard line decisions and not ride the fence 130 times to play it safe. 130 times seems to me that someone is either pandering to the corporate lobbyist or is in favor of the Republican Party’s’ issues?? Who’s’ side is Obama really on? If Obama can not make hard line decisions as a Senator, what in Gods’ green earth make anyone believe he can take on the Office of President of The United States. This is a serious weakness on Obamas’ part and people around the World will take advantage of his weakness of not being able to make Hard Line decisions’. And extremist will have a field day with him because they already know his lacks the ability to make a stand on issues. What I say is fact, even if Obama out the remote chance wins the Democratic Party Nomination, Clinton supporters will not support Obama, in fact many would cross the Party lines and Vote for a Republican or not even waste the time to Vote at all. And one last thing, Polls mean nothing, as shown in the NH debates. For the most part Clinton supporters are a ‘SILENT” majority, the sit back and wait in silence for the Primary to kick in. As you have seen in the NH Caucuses. Wake up People, this is a fight for our Country’s’ Future, I would in no way Vote for someone based on their Gender as I would Vote for someone based upon the Color of their skin. For those who think that Obama should be elected based on race, you are wrong! Good Day!
I AGREE WITH MOST OF MR AYERS COMMENTS, BUT WHY DO FOX AND CNN KEEP GIVING HIM A PASS AND NOT CALL HIM TO TASK, LIKE THEY DO CLINTON
Your 100% right James, they never do. It seems Fox News wants Obama to win, because they know he could never stand up to the Republican Party. They would attack him over his Voting “Present” over 130 times. And then they would finish him off over dealing with Terrorist issues. CNN seems to have given Obama more coverage than Hillary, this is something that you can find people talking about all over the Internet! Why? I couldn’t tell you. I do know by watching some of the Contributors are certainly Obama supporters. I have kept a close eye on 3 recently, who are African American both male and female genders, who praise Obama every chance they get while on-air. One even goes as far to suggest to Obama on how to handle certain issues, as if Obama is listening and you know what I think he is! LOL I come to think that maybe the candidates are not playing the race card, it starting to look as if the media is the ones doing it. Maybe CNN isn’t asking the right questions when it comes to Obama because they are afraid of offending their African American Contributers that you see Live every day? You guess is as good as mine. But only CNN can tell the American People why the Hard Line Questions are not being asked when it comes to Obama. But then again, CNN can do as Obama has, Vote Present!
And one more thing, I challenge any CNN Reporter to get Senator Obama to answer just two questions. I seriously doubt anyone with CNN has what it takes to do this, but thought I would give it a try.
Senator Obama,
When you became a Senator, you had written letters on behalf of Rezko and Davis seeking funding for them. Rezko was the “Slum” lord that was brought up during the NC Debate for which you claimed to only worked 5 hrs on his case. Rezko was seeking funds for building projects outside of your very own district while buildings were deteriorating and falling down in your district. You can’t explain seeking funds for your ex-boss and your friend for buildings while you are now a Senator? And has Rezko done any FundRaising for you Candidacy? Thank You
CNN has yet to answer , How about Fox News? Do you have what it takes to ask these two questions?
[...] addthis_url = location.href; addthis_title = document.title; addthis_pub = ‘timecom’; RSS Veteran newsman Zeleny questions the candidate on the ropeline about the Clintons’ psycho-war. [...]
It is obvious some of these people commenting are die hard Clinton supporters.
The American people know the Clintons are FULL of scandal.
Obama is straight up with people, believes in open and transparent government and a democracy controlled by the people.
Obama’s skills of diplomacy, negotiation, knowing when to stay on an issue or walk away from the table and return is what this country needs right now. HRC is so divisive and I cannot see her wanting to work with republic. and indp. to get the job done. It is “she and Bill’s way or the highway.”
HRC cannot even be honest about her “35 years of experience” in the white house! SHe didn’t have top level security experience, could not sit in on national security meetings OR receive intelligence reports. Karl Rove, Republic strategist is already calling on Hillary to release detailed papers about her work within the white house. ALso, the work that Bill gave her, reforming health care, she failed and did everything behind closed doors. When is the media going to ask her about those 2 lawsuits??? Oh, they won’t…
OBAMA is the future! He doesn’t have the baggage of the past and can run on his record and stance. unlike his opponents.
Some people “CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!”
Wow. For one such as David to think that Clinton won makes me wonder what that person was smoking and what alternative universe they’re sitting in. Senator Obama won the debate. He had the longest most substantive responses, attacked without throwing haymakers, and DID NOT GET BOOED!!
READ ME!
Senator Clinton was really confused regarding the credit card issue, when she stated that Barack voted because the rates were too high. Hello! That’s what he was supposed to do. The problem is that a lot of pundits and writers covering Washington aren’t smart enough to pick up these policy errors as they unfold! So it’s no wonder why someone like David could dare to write that Clinton won — he doesn’t understand English at all.
Senator Clinton looked just plain pathetic. There was so reason for her to comeoff the way she did, but there she went.
The Clintons do not look good at all. And this MLK performance was pathetic:
http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2008/01/clintons-first-dis-then-sleep-on-martin.html
Shame on them!!
I am a partisan Democrat, former office holder who has seen the race/gender politics divide before. To end it, VOTE OBAMA this primary season!
CIAO EVERYONE. MSN & CNN JUST READ THE SLANDEROUS QUOTE FROM FOX EMBEDS re. 1. Obama is a Mulim 2, when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. 3, Obama refuses to salute the flag , et. al
Great God Almighty, ALL LIES. ALL LIES. ALL LIES. AS THE ANCHORMAN SAID, “IT DOES PROVE ONE THING, HOW LOW PEOPLE CAN STOOP. WHOMEVER WROTE THE TRASH IS WORSE THAN ANY CHARGE THEY WROTE.
HERE’S HOPING BRILLIANT HACKERS CAN TRACK DOWN THE DESPICABLE TWEEBS & THEY CAN BE TRIED FOR SLANDER. IT FOR SURE WAS NOT “SATIRE” OR “PARADY.”
HELLO. THE END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. PERHAPS YOU BELONG WITH THE LIKES OF LENIN, STALIN, JIM JONES . IT REALLY IS–THE WAY YOU PLAY THE GAME THAT TELLS THE WARRIOR HEROES IN THIS WORLD.
YAHOO. IT IS NOT NOT NOT TRUE; ALL WRITTEN BY SOME PITIFUL, TWISTED.
EVER ONWARD AND UPWARD ! EMPOWER AMERICA!
Hillary is a vicious, vindictive, uber ambitious woman who will stop at nothing to win.
If she is the nominee I will have to vote republican.
And as for her husband…I have lost all respect I had for him previously.
I am not alone in these sentiments, most everyone I know feels the same.
OH MY GOSH. HILLARY CLINTON AND HER LECHEROUS HUSBAND HAD COMPLETE SECURITY INFO ON ANY PERSON WORKING NEAR HIM OR IN WHITE HOUSE OR IN ANYPLACE THEY/HE TRAVELED OR STAYED. HE PICKED SILLY WOMEN “WHO HAD ‘HISTORIES’ AND/OR NO CREDIBILITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST HIM. THE CLINTONS WERE WILLING TO DESTROY A SILLY 21 YEAR OLD RAWTHER THAN TELL THE TRUTH UNDER OATH. CALLED THE TACKY PAULA–”TRAILOR TRASH”; WHO STOLE THE SOAPS AND TOWELS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND AIRFORCE ONE. WE ALL KNOW POLITICIANS ARE CROOKS, BUT THE CLINTONS ARE SMALL-TIME CROOKS==THEY ARE THE BULLY, WHITE TRASH. MEN COMMIT CHEAT, ANY POWERFUL MAN (DOCTORS, LAWYERS, HENRY KISSINGER FOR GOSH SAKES) ALL ATTRACT FOOLISH , SL_TTY WOMEN, BUT ONE WOULD HOPE THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. COULD KEEP HIS ZIPPER UP FOR ONE TERM OR AT THE VERY LEAST. . . TO NOT BE SO CRUEL AS HE SHOWED HIMSELF TO BE. HILLARY IS WORSE THAN HE IS.
PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR THEM IN WASHINGTON D.C. THOUGHT THEY WERE WITHOUT “CLASS.” CRUEL, OPPORTUNISTS, BULLYS, ARROGANT, DISHONEST, AND THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY COMMON “SPIN DOCTORS.” FOR SHAME.
OBAMA, DON’T YOU DARE KOW-TOW TO THESE TERRIBLE, THESE AWFUL PEOPLE. YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN BOTH TOGETHER. YOU HAVE THE ELOQUENCE OF J.F.K. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LIVE WITH THE DIGNITY, THE INTEGRITY, THE BRILLIANCE YOU HAVE REVEALED SO FAR. THIS IS A BIG, COMPLEX WORLD WITH BIG COMPLEX PROBLEMS. IF IT MATTERS, I AM WHITE , WITH FRECKLES, BLUE EYES, BLONDE HAIR. . . EPISCOPALIAN ALA C.S. LEWIS & REGISTERED REPUBLICAN, BUT THINK IT IS STUNNING IF THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY CANNOT SPOT THE MAN, LIKE COLIN POWELL, WHOSE TIME HAS COME. IT IS TIME TO HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT. IT IS FINE TO HAVE A WOMAN, BUT NOT AN EXPLOITER OF WOMEN LIKE HILLARY. VERBOUSITY IS FLAW. NO ONE WILL READ THIS. CALL PEGGY NOONAN. OBAMA FOR PRES. VICE PRES. FRED THOMPSON–BLOW THEIR MINDS. GOD BLESS OBAMA.
As always, Obama is a gentleman to the core.
He won the debate hands down. Hillary had nothing new, she just repeated the same old stuff. She didn’t know when to stop the attacks, and attacked, and attacked, and attacked, and attacked. It’s boring writing about it. She even forgot to go through her policy points.
Obama was on target. He addressed his attackers with respect, but nailed the attacks. He talked about his legislation, which Hillary could not parry.
Hillary looked stunned. She has been brilliant in other debates, I admit, but in this one, something threw her off. She never looks good when she attacks. Obama does better, he can do it without lying and loosing control.
Guess that’s why Hillary has Bill. But, back to Hillary, what legislation has she passed?
President Barack Obama wll bring honor to the White house!
Hillary and Bill Clinton have shamed the Democratic Party with their lies and underhanded tactics against Obama. Even when Senator Obama responded with truth to her false accusations she continued to make completely disrespectful comments and then follow with more accusations. Senator Obama defended and responded with truthful information.
Edwards looked like the good little candidate who doesn’t indulge in back and forth, but he has never had to defend against the relentless false attacks by the Clintons that Obama has over the past three months. The Clintons are a Tonya Harding tag team.
Wow hard to believe there are still people that think the Clintons are royalty give me a break…..They are only in this for Power, Money and for King Bill probably Sex….
GO OBAMA
Obama, as usual, is not a gentleman or a new hope. He’s a hypocrite. He states false things about Clinton’s campaign (that they’re rattled, he doesn’t know this), then decries saying false things about candidates.
He’s a politician. He’ll say one thing, turn the cheek, and say the other as long as it gets him the votes. It’s unfortunate that some of his supporters are too stupid to see beyond the fog and mirrors. Wake up, America. Choosing Obama is choosing the same crap we’ve had for 8 years — a guy everyone can hang out with, but has absolutely no idea what to do about the real problems in our country.
American’s I don’t know why you should expect to do the same thing and expect a change you really want, can’t you see the light in Obama that will restore American’s diginity.
Must you people believe in the lies of Clinton’s who are desperate for power?
Comment by Jack,
I fail to see your point. What false things did Mr. Obama say about Mr. and Mrs Clinton. They gave a speech where she mentioned that without LBJ Mr. King’s progress woudl have been untennable. I beleive it is fair to say that without Dr. King and his movement LBJ wouldn’t have been able to accomplish anything because there would not be a movement asking for Civil Rights. Obviuosly they both were needed to bring about change but why did the Clinton’s use this point? The the Clinton’s campaign was caught in Iowa and New Hampshire spreading fliers that said that Mr. Obama is a Muslim just before the primaries took place. Mrs. Clinton did the right thing and let the campaign staffer go. Bill goes on the stage and says that Obama campaign is a “fairy-tale” then Mr Obama’s campaing responds. The circle keeps on going around and around, but you see the instigator in all cases has been the Clinton’s. Come on people, we all dislike liars and we are all weary of politicians using double speak (check out the real McCain website he’s got some highlights) but to be fair times change and so do the positions that politicians take. However the only person who has been caught telling out-right lies on the democratic side as far as I can tell is the Clinton campaign trying to use the fear of Republicans ideas that Obama clearly did not say. If you look at the interview, which is somewhat open to interpretation, you will see that he says that Reagan was able to be transformative president in a way that Clinton was not. For one, go out and read some literture about the 1980’s and Reagan and you will see that he was quite the popular president despite his anti-union attitudes and pro-amnesty policies. Prior to Reagan iti would be a failed position to take an anti-union attitude! Obviously he was pro-business, not pro-employee, and Clinton followed in his footsteps, ala keeping the business community happy and well fed. Then Mr Obama goes on to state that Republicans were the party of ideas during the 80’s and 90’s, and if we can all remember into our past we can see anti-union, gay bashing, pro-gun, greed, lack of empathy, pro-life, etc ideolgy all over the landscape of the past 25 years. Notice I did not say fiscal conservative, we can only thank Clinton for balancing the budget, while keeping the status-quo in check!
Gotta Go, Stay Solid!
It is mind boggling how short our memories as democrats are. Remember the mess at the end of the Clinton years? If you’re nostalgic for continued fighting and rancor, go ahead and vote for Clinton. Also, if you’re nostalgic for trash and tawdry coverage, vote for Clinton. She is no more intelligent, no more passionate, and no more likely to be a better President than Obama. In fact, Obama is more likely to set a new tone and engender some reconciliation.
Furthermore, Bill and Hillary are really setting themselves up for a series of hard blows re: Lewinsky, Flowers, Whitewater, Hsu, Gupta, etc. If the media is truly fair — CNN is notoriously sycophantic with whoever has the momentum — they will cover some of the Clinton history.
Memories are short, but hopefully not for long …
These Obama supporters are so misinformed and refuse to believe that Obama/Osama is not going to unite this country. If that was true, why did he shut down this website http://www.islamichope.com It was up and running a few days ago. The reason Obama shut it down is because he knows he is a liar. The whole website talks about uniting all colors and religion but yet there was not one white or latino person or picture on the whole website. Yeah, he is going to unite this country alright. Voters with children are going to regret putting Obama before their families….
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VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - America’s True Presidential Leader - President ! ! ! ! ! !
AMERICA NEEDS - HILLARY CLINTON - PRESIDENT ! ! ! ! !
VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - PRESIDENT ! ! ! !
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HILLARY is experienced and ready to do the Presidential duties on day one.
HILLARY is well educated and she will get the job done.
HILLARY is a very hard worker and she will work for change for Ameria.
HILLARY will do great things for America - she is truly committed to America.
HILLARY is a doer for all people.
HILLARY respects the American flag, she will salute the American flag, and she respects the national anthem as well.
HILLARY is Ameria’s True Change Machine and she is ready to get the Wheels for Change rolling for America as President.
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YOU GO GIRL!!!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!
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VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON - America’s True Presidential Leader - President ! ! ! ! ! !
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Does someone pay people to say stupid, false and insulting things?
>Comment by Southern girl
>January 23rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
>These Obama supporters are so misinformed and refuse to believe that Obama/Osama is not going >to unite this country. If that was true, why did he shut down this website >http://www.islamichope.com It was up and running a few days ago. The reason Obama shut it >down is because he knows he is a liar. The whole website talks about uniting all colors and religion >but yet there was not one white or latino person or picture on the whole website. Yeah, he is going >to unite this country alright. Voters with children are going to regret putting Obama before their >families….
sorry to pick on you Southern girl, you are not the only one. just the most recent here.
they have this new thing at cnn they r gonna go to some states and ask people quetions and i wrote to them that i m sure they will bring back evidence against hillary. fox r full of republicans and cnn they know if they try to side with hillary they might also get charged with race card like hillary got charged and cnn gets money from obama to play ads of him
josh-quasimoto, read the very story above you. Instead of seeing Obama glowing like an angel from above, look at his words. He said false things about Clinton’s campaign being rattled by his then decried saying false things.
As for some of your accusations, it’s the first I’ve heard of any of them. It wouldn’t surprise me if you fudged a few facts to get them. The only known instance where Clinton aides were behind this, Clinton herself demanded the two resign. The only article that speaks of Clinton and fliers, the New York Times said there was no proof to Hillary’s involvement, yet you magically know different.
As for Reagan, I never said he wasn’t popular then. Please stop pulling things out of the air, and for the record — Bill Clinton left office more popular than Ronald Reagan. Bill left office with 65% approval, Reagan with 64%. So if we use your laughable logic, Bill Clinton did more for America because more people liked him.
Meaning Obama’s comment about Republicans giving the best ideas was wrong — Clinton, more liked, thus better ideas. You’re dismissed.
Obama truthful??? Were in the World did you pick that up? Obama has lied about his dealings and connections with one of the Biggest Slum lords in Chicago. Obama to this day has worked with Rezko, pleading his case for more Federal and Private Funding. Only Af6ter his connection was brought up, Obama then decided to “DONATE” all the money raised by Rezko to charities. If Obama had known of the problems with Rezko, but he continued to deal with him up to the present. Obama should have returned Rezkos’ contributions from the very beginning but he didn’t. And the only Candidate who spoke clearly was Clinton. And I can care less about the Monica issue, that is a private matter. Just like Obamas Cocaine and Marijuana usage during his College years, which wasn’t very long ago! Not to mention Obama had serious issues during that time concerning interacial relationships between Blacks and Whites. And that was stated by his own College Buddie! And for those who failed to educate yourselves before posting, Hillary was involved with Political Issue long before Obama ever completed High School! She was deeply involved with Racial Equality back in the late 60’s to early 70’s. And she continued her service to the Public every since! AND TO THE ONE WHO STATED OBAMA WAS A GENTLEMAN? OBAMA WAS THE FIRST ONE TO ATTACK HILLARY DURING THE DEBATE, COMPARED WHAT HE WAS DOING WHILE SHE WAS ON THE BOARD OF WAL-MART, WELL IF YOU DISH IT OUT YOU’D BETTER DANG WELL TAKE WHAT COMES BACK AT YOU! Obama should remember one thing, just because he is a man of color doesnt mean he is off limits when it comes to asking and getting a straight answer on the hard line questions! And I like Hillary was “STUNNED” as well on how someone can stand up in front of the American People and refuse to answqer question put forth during the debate concerning is voting record. And continued to dodge the questions by saying” Thats not What I want to talk About” over and over. And to the other poster, I don’t need to smoke anything to make my voice be heard! And Obama voted “Present” on the Credit Card issue and it failed to pass allowing the Credit Card Co. to charge whatever they wanted. If he’d voted yes, it would have put a 30% limit. Yes it may have been high, but since he rode the fence as usual they could now charge 32% or 35% or more. So maybe you need to stop worrying about what people are smoking or not smoking and learn a little more about Politics before you post. Dave Ayers St Joseph, Mo.
I cannot believe the number of naive Democrats who are so taken in by right wing spin that they really think the Clintons caused their own problems. Did you all sleep through the Gore and Kerry campaigns? The right wing smear machine is powerful and well-funded and will do what it takes to defeat Democrats. The only ones who have been able to survive their onslaught is the Clintons who understand all too well how these creeps operate.
The Swiftboat crowd has been around for a long time and have learned their Lee Atwater/Karl Rove strategies well. They are even willing to use them against other Republicans who don’t tow the right wing ideological line. It was not Democrats who slimed McCain in 2000 by attacking his experience as a POW, implying he had been brainwashed by the Communist. People who are willing to do this to their own side will stop at nothing. They lied continually about Gore and Swiftboated Kerry. Worse, our corporate media looked away or even participated.
Obama talks about changing the tone of politics. What does he think Kerry did to deserve having his war heroism turned against him? What makes him think he will be immune to this kind of treatment? All the lofty rhetoric in the world would not have made a difference. Obama is getting upset about routine political attacks, probably because he has never had to run in a competitive race. After all, he got to the Senate by running against the crackpot Alan Keyes. If he is the nominee, he will get slimed by the right. As history has clearly shown, but a lot of you seem to not understand, they do not reserve this kind of treatment for just the Clintons.
Everyone should read “The Hunting of the President” by Joe Conason and Gene Lyons. Maybe then you will understand what we are up against. To get a taste of what went on read this:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/004
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“These Obama supporters are so misinformed and refuse to believe that Obama/Osama is not going to unite this country. If that was true, why did he shut down this website http://www.islamichope.com It was up and running a few days ago. The reason Obama shut it down is because he knows he is a liar. The whole website talks about uniting all colors and religion but yet there was not one white or latino person or picture on the whole website….”
Do you mean http://www.islamichope.ORG/ ?
Cause that’s still up…..
The Rezko matter is proof positive that Obama is nothing more than an Illinois machine politician and not the “standard bearer of change” he claims to be.
He’s also endorsed party hacks like Toddler Stroger and Alexi Giannoulos. Where’s the “change” here in Illinois, Barack? You know, the state you’re SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING!
I agree these are reasonable questions:
Are we so stupid that we would believe that Obama just happened to coincidentally write a letter on behalf of Rezkos co. so that co. could get public funding for their business? All that we know of IL and Cook County politics. Do people really think that we are that stupid. Also helping Obama pay $300,000 less for his house, my question is what did Obama do for Rezko in order to get that “help”. Also now looking at how Obama used his PAC to buy support in Iowa and NH really makes me wonder how anyone could support this corrupt Cook County Hack.
These are from Los Angeles Times:
The Times arrived at the total of more than $200,000 by reviewing donations
dating back to 1995, primarily looking at people who had business relationships
with Rezko.
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But in 1998, then-state Sen. Obama wrote to state and city officials urging
them to provide funding for New Kenwood LLC, a company formed by Rezko and
Allison Davis. Obama wrote the letters, first reported by the Chicago Sun-Times,
on Illinois Senate stationery, saying: “This project will provide much
needed housing for 4th Ward citizens.”
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In addition to being a campaign benefactor, Rezko also surfaced when Obama
and his wife purchased their house on Chicago’s South Side in 2005. On the
day the Obamas bought their house, Rezko’s wife, Rita, bought an adjacent
lot from the same sellers, part of which Obama later bought back.
Rita Rezko’s purchase, at the $625,000 asking price, came just as the Obamas
successfully bid in a slow market to buy the house for $300,000 below the
asking price, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Obama says there was nothing improper in these transactions. The housing
deal came after it was known that Rezko was under scrutiny by federal authorities.
Obama has said that, in retrospect, the property deal was a “mistake” because of the appearance it created.
I just received an email from Mrs Obama herself, here a paragraph from that email:
Please stand up in the face of these new attacks. Make your first online donation of $50 today and own a piece of this campaign.
“OWN”? Well seems Obama can be bought, wonder how much it cost Rezko?? LOL
====> Tony Rezko, who is facing a Feb. 25 federal criminal trial in Chicago http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-3695966.html
http://www.ontheleft.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8513
Obama supporters, ask yourself these questions regarding Senator Obama:
Why did he get a cheaper price on his house? (While Rezko’s wife paid the full asking price for the land, Obama paid $300,000 under the asking price for the house. The house sold for $1,650,000 and the price Rezko’s wife paid for the land was $625,000.)
Why did he do business with a man he knew was under investigation by the FBI? (Rezko had been widely reported to be under investigation by the U.S. attorney and the FBI at the time Obama contacted him and has since been indicted on corruption charges by a federal grand jury in a case that prosecutors say involves bribes, kickbacks and “efforts to illegally obtain millions of dollars.” )
Why did he write letters for this same man to get government contracts?
“For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago’s South Side. It was just four years after the landlords — Antoin “Tony” Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru — had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.”
“But Obama’s ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm — Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland — that helped Rezmar get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor.”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/35382 9,CST-NWS-rez23.article
I do understand wanting to defend your candidate but this is reality and we can’t afford to loss this election, and, my god, the country certainly can’t afford it. There are two other democratic candidates in this race who have a much greater chance of defeating the Republican nominee in the fall. Here’s another question you should ask yourself, what do you think the Republicans will do with this information pertaining to Senator Obama’s record?
I am concern that if anyone including the media talks negitive about Obama then we would be considered racist.
If Ohama becomes the presidet of the US the media would not be as hard on him at they have been on President Bush, the media would be afraid to be named a racist, and the negitive inpact it would be to their ratings.
I personally feel afraid to say anything negitive about Obama or people will think that I do not like people of color and that is not true,