What else can she do? Being in the Top three in Iowa only proves you are a viable candidate. Top four if you are tied like McCain is for forth place. Once the media really starts to dig at these guys/gals, the placement will change significantly.

It was a victory for change! Now onto the congress!!

Experience seems to be very loosly defined these days !

Umm, didn’t George Bush win Iowa in 2000 and go on to become President? You’d think Clinton’s campaign manager would know that. You’d also think Fox News reporters would do their job and report that, rather than lazily just transcribing quotes as if its reporting.

I guess it just shows that when you think you deserve the Presidency by virtue of your name (Bush, Clinton), you don’t actually bother to surround yourself with competent people who know what they’re talking about.

It was very disappointing to see Hillary lose and Barack win…but overall, she is the best candidate with brains and “experience”…..a very gracious comment in defeat….I would expect nothing less from her campaign……and then we get Bill as an added “bonus”…who does not want that????

David, I’m pretty sure he meant only one candidate has won the Iowa Democratic caucus and has gone on to be president. Of course, in the last 30 years there have only been two Democratic presidents, Carter and Clinton, so that doesn’t mean anything.

Barack deserved to win and hopefully he will continue all the way to the White House!!!

We have had enough lies, deception and a government out of control. It is time for change and we certainly don’t need another Clinton, Bush or Beltline candidate, CHANGE is needed now!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Clinton had his day and Hillary should just retire!!!!!!!!!!

Please someone tell me, what “experience” does Clinton have besides being a First Lady. She has less practical policy-making experience that Obama, has never led anything, and is a very poor communicator.
Although I am a long-time Democrat, and now independent, Hillary Clinton is not presidential material. She is pretty much typical of the worst generation of politicians and adminstrators “ever” in the history of the U.S. that are now serving in the White House and the halls of Congress.

Dorothy, I’ll give you, Hillary is intelligent, but by no means is Obama a dummy. Even though he isn’t that experienced, neither were Kennedy, Teddy Roosevelt, and Lincoln, and those guys were some of our best presidents. He definitely has the edge when it comes to leadership qualities, and he somehow manages to be moderate while still having strong personal convictions. Somehow, I could never see Hillary Clinton being able to motivate and unite the country like Barack could.

Edwards was the best candidate and didn’t win. Edwards is the only one that can win in a general election. I guess the Democrats want to do what they always do and give the presidency to the Republicans on a silver platter. Obama is a law professor. Big deal. I’ve been taking law classes for the last two years and never once thought that my teachers were presidential material. I’d be change too but that doesn’t mean I’d be a good president. I hope New Hampshire people can look at this with their eyes open.

A “Bump in the Road”, how patronizing. This was an interesting show of changes to come and needed. How can anyone with reasonable common sense presume that Bill Clinton would be an added bonus? Continuing with the the “old guard” vote and style of government is exactly what the future of this great nation does’nt need and want. This should also be a wake-up call to our all talk and do nothing congress.

Glad to see the Clinton defeat. All this talk about Clinton machine, I have not seen anything substantial…except for those stupid surrogates that belittle every other candidate.

I wonder if it’s going to get nasty in New Hampshire with the Clintons. I hope Obama gives everything back to Clinton as much as she gives to Obama.

I am sick of the Clintons.

Mec Man

I am amazed.CNN used to be called the Clinton News Network and I always thought Fox did a good job to present all the facts.Now it seems that Fox is working with Hillary’s spin doctors.What is the nature of her experience.Convincing Bill to bomb a Sudanese aspirin fact to slow the impeachment.We are discussing a pair of ruthless opportunists that didn’t even own a house in Arkansas who now are multi-millionaires saying she is most qualified at what?The records of her White House days are all locked up.

Dorothy, your comment about Bill being an “added bonus” is exactly what is wrong with a majority of Democrats today. They think that by voting in Hillary, they’ll get Bill. That is not the case and that mentality needs to end if this country is to have a chance. The biggest problem with Hillary is that she does not have a stance on anything. Every time she is asked a specific question on a stance, she gives the usual political mumbo-jumbo and does not answer the question. That is a scary thought to have a president that no one knows anything about what they stand for.

Earl, in national polls, Obama beats every Republican candidate. Edwards is a good public speaker, but his passionate hatred of big business seems to rely far more on emotion than logic. Obama has a lot more experience than just as a law professor. (community organizer, Illinois state senator) Your small sample of law professors is by no means representative.

One reason Obama will be a better president than Clinton: he’ll have more time. Think how long it must take for Hillary to do her hair and makeup! Obama just has to roll out of bed and take a shower. He doesn’t even need to comb his hair. Think about how much more he can accomplish in that time!

Hillary is the best democratic candidate, which ain’t saying much.
She is very devisive and will only serve to divide the country further.
Obama is a powerful orator. Hillary lacks the charisma her husband has.
Her “experience” position makes no sense vs. Obama.
Surprised to see how many women did NOT support her in Iowa.
Not that many feminists in the heartland.

I think that all three Democratic candidates would be a step in the right direction. the experience Hillary has is dealing with congress and loosing. That is very improtant experience in my opinion.

All of this talk of “experience”. For goodness sake, George W. Bush was the Governor of the state of Texas….look what that “experience” has done for this country! We need a good, natural leader. Someone who will surround himself with a capable cabinet, and, as Tom said, can unite the country.

Has anyone thought about Obamas Radical Muslim upbringing?????????????????????? All the people who call themselves Americans need to really look at this. Remember they say they will destroy us from within—What greater way could it possibly be done. This is a man who refused to pledge alligiance to OUR FLAG!!!!!!!!!!!! How can he even be allowed to run for office??????? Please publish this somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May the Lord have mercy on all of us if he ,Hillary, or ambulance chasing Edwards get into the Presidents office.

Well Bush started with the campagin of uniting Democrats and Republicans ? What happened afterwards is history.
People must be judged based on what has been delivered by them so far - so that it can be a measure of their performance for future.
I don’t see any of the change candidates brought about a change when they are already in power. Just using those words doesn’t mean anything

Fix the economy , build the relation of US globally so that we can reap the benifits when other countries grow.

It will be interesting to find which candidate can bring these qualities to the table.

My oh my what a treat. I can’t imagine what this will do to Shillary’s psyche, she’s probably throwing lamps and cursing the day she met Bill Clinton. From what I’ve seen in the republicans I’m not sure I wouldn’t vote for a democrat right now; Obama would be my choice. I’d want a republican house and congress though to control his social spending plans.

In the rush to NH, we should put to rest the urban legend that Hillary is going to announce tomorrow her selection of Cynthia McKinney as her VP running mate, just to counter Obama’s momentum. Cynthia is in the presidential race as the Green Party candidate to the bitter end (for much the same reasons as Hillary). So, we will not have the dream ticket of Hillary Clinton - Cynthia McKinney in 2008 (maybe 2016?).

The surprising thing about these FOX news comments is that so far only one fear-driven religious fruitcake has responded. Maybe there is a glimmer of hope for this country …

Obama is a hypo. for example, he tried to describe 9/11 as “fear”, a story that scares people. In fact, 9/11 is real, so real that we must be tough on enemies. We always has different opinions, but we are never divided, which is actually what he is doing.

Hillary Clinton comes in third and her handlers call that “a great night”?

Now that is funny!

Looks like America’s fed up with having the machine spit out their candidates !

Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

Toby: Obama lived in Indonesia between the ages of 4 and 10. Although Indonesia is predominantly Muslim, all the schools Obama went to were either secular or Catholic. Obama did not refuse to pledge allegiance to the flag. You are probably thinking of the video of the candidates singing the national anthem, where Obama doesn’t have his hand over his heart. He has definitely sung the national anthem with his hand over his heart though. Are you for real? Probably not, but if so, overuse of question marks and exclamation points aren’t helping your case any.

PSK: The main difference between Obama and Bush is that Bush was obviously not being honest and just telling people what they wanted to hear. At the time, people KNEW he was being dishonest, but he got away with it anyway. Sometimes, he’d make one-liners in debates, but he used them to deflect attention from the real issues. Obama’s had a few great lines, but he always follows up with an honest answer. Honesty, to me, is the major difference between them.

At least Hillary is a known evil, as compared to the unknown danger of Obama and Hucksterabee. The voters in Iowa have no ideas. The top Iowa candidates resemble a badly formed statue made by a 6 year-old child. The child is proud of its accomplishment but it doesn’t mean anything in the real world we have to live in.

A revolution for change, based on no ideas, is the worst kind of revolution of all.

Slow Fade: I take it you haven’t read Obama’s books, or listened to any of his more in-depth discussions of issues. There is clearly a great deal of substance behind the man, and implying that he has no ideas is flat-out false.

I am in agreement with Ken Keyes. All the talk of Hillary’s experience, can someone give me a list? Titles and length of time does not equal accomplishments, being married to the former president does not count as experience and in my 30 + years of voting I have never voted for a candidate because of their spouse…….being female does not entitle her to my vote (I think that is a presumption that we found last night in Iowa was not true).

I no longer waste my time listening to the political spin from Clinton and Co., I am now evaluating Obama and Edwards before my vote in February.

Tom, I know Obama has said he beats every Republican in polls. Edwards has said the same thing. I have personally not seen the polls and there may be several. I am going on my opinion. Edwards opinion on corporations is based on his career as a lawyer. He’s won cases against these corporations and made a substantial amount of money. He’s went up against corporations that have a lot of money so it’s not an easy task. I respect that. For an eyebrow raising view on corporations I suggest viewing “The Corporation, the pathological pursuit of profit and power.” It’s also a book by Joel Bakan.

Did you ever wonder why Republicans push privitizing everything. One reason is that corporations are not accountable to people or public policy. Corporations are required by law to make money even at the cost of public policy. They are not required to have a conscious. Government is at least supposed to be held accountable by the people. People who own corporations are not even liable beyond their investment no matter how irresponsible they are. I think people should have power in their lives, not corporations. If Edwards thinks he can reel these corporations in a little and bring back sanity, then I’ll vote for him. I won’t be voting for Obama but I respect your views.

Hillary last speech in Iowa was very different from others. She was calm, confident and strong, person in charge .Obama and Edwards were talking on top of their longs like a show hosts, not future president.
I will vote for Hillary, because I want to see strong and confident president for United States. I believe she will win.

Earl, I have seen the polls, and both Edwards and Obama do similar versus the Republicans. Clinton does the worst. Republicans have been hoping for a Clinton nomination, since she’d be the easiest to beat. I understand your views, but at worst, corporations are a necessary evil. After all, most of us work for them. If we hit them too hard, they’re liable to either move to another country, lay people off, or raise prices to make up for losing money.

Oh, and I had to laugh at Edwards’ comment about Maytag moving its factory “overseas.” They went to Mexico. Granted, a little poetic license is sometimes necessary, but it just sounded like he needed a lesson in geography.

What experiance? Being married to an NFL quarterback does not mean you can play the sport. With other qualities why does she continue to hang her hat on something she does not have, other than her message is not strong enough.

Tom, I was watching the news the other day and they were saying that as of late Obama and Clinton have begun using some of the same retoric that Edwards has used. I thought, well why not vote for the originator rather than someone who is mimiking the other person. Either way I’m glad Edwards has pushed the argument to things that need to be addressed.

I think corporations have begun moving to other countries a long time ago but mostly to other offshore countries for tax shelters (illegal). They’ve certainly sent jobs overseas or Mexico or whatever. They’ve certainly raised prices. Gas is about 3 times what it was when Bush took office and every year seems to be record profits. One thing is a fact and that is we are still the biggest consumer nation in the world and still have clout. We need to use that clout to force corporations that are in the US or do business in the US to act responsibly. I’m not saying we need to throw tea in the harbor again but we certainly need to question corporate practices and realize this is still a country of the people, by the people and for the people. At least it used to be. This is at least one theme that Edwards has hit on and I agree.

Congrats to the under dogs Obama and Huckabee too. Hillary is a spinster and is like the shifting sand of the sahara. I highly doubt that she lost because of how she campaigned in Iowa. She lost because of how she has manipulated every situation she’s involved with in her career in politics.

Go Obama!
Go Huckabee!

Jim, Tom and others, agree with your comments which question what is Clinton’s real experience? I am glad to see we are pushing through the tag lines.

For those who write about Obama being the most popular among republican candidates, I agree. I am a Republican, and yes to the person who said the party is hoping Hilary wins b/c she is easiest to beat, you are right. For me, at this point, in these times, I am going to put aside my republican preferences on the issues (leave that to Congress hopefully :)), and vote for Obama. He is more than the change candidate, he is the person who can unify the country, improve our image Internationally, and remind us all why we are proud to be American’s, where we have the right to vote, and the rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

To the person who talked about his book Slow Fade demonstrating the depth, and substance of the man, I also agree.

I also agree the night was a treat - watching Hilary come in 3rd, was awesome!!

re: “Hillary Clinton comes in third and her handlers call that “a great night”? Now that is funny!”

Well, Fred Thompson came in third and his handlers called it a great night.

McCain tied for third and his handlers called it a great night.

You can say Fred didn’t work as hard in Iowa, but that’s Fred’s WEAKNESS, not strength. Fact is, neither McCain or Fred had the money to compete in IA. And Fred doesn’t have the money to compete in NH.

Right now Clinton is leading NH with McCain, so I’d say third for Hillary is a hell of a lot better than third for Fred.
Yet, Fred comes in third and Mary Matalin says she is THRILLED with third for Fred.

I think I smell a little hypocrisy reeking from the FredHeads’ end of the GOP.

Earl, gas prices are up mostly due to the instability in the middle east, and the sour relationships we have with Iran and Venezuela. Yes, the Bush administration is mostly to blame. The Edwards strategy seems to be to beat up the big corporations. The Obama strategy seems to be to get representatives from these corporations in a room and ask them to help fix the problems. If they come off as excessively obstructive, then the public opinion will turn heavily against them. But branding them as evil before even giving them a chance isn’t fair.

One reason I don’t support Edwards is the fact that he’s anti-nuclear energy. If we’re going to stop being dependent on fossil fuels, nuclear power is going to have to be part of the equation. Modern reactors are exponentially safer than those in the 70s, and scaring people with stories of Chernobyl and Three-Mile Island is disingenuous.

Anonymous2 - glad to have you! I think a lot of people have been cynical about politics since at least 2000, and Obama speaks to these people best of all.

Jan - Fred Thompson and John McCain barely campaigned in Iowa, and moved up to third, past Giuliani. Hillary started in first place and moved down to third. Primaries are all about momentum, and last night, Hillary Clinton lost a lot of it.

Tom and Earl, nice to see some intelligent discussions on this blog. One reason the price of gas is so high is due to the deflated value of the dollar, mostly due to the money we’re spending in Iraq. If the dollar to euro exchange was 1 to 1 (as it was a few years ago) a gallon of gas would be about $2.

I think McCain is one of the top Repub candidates, but I’m from AZ so I may be biased. Did you know his son Jack is in the Naval Academy and son James is a marine (I think he is in Iraq). There is no candidate (and family) that has given more to the USA than Senator McCain.

Jim - I supported McCain during the 2000 primaries, but like Obama, I thought the Iraq war was a huge mistake. McCain’s unwavering support of it has turned me off to him this time around, but he’s still my favorite Republican. At least he’s honest.

re: “Jan - Fred Thompson and John McCain barely campaigned in Iowa, and moved up to third, past Giuliani. Hillary started in first place and moved down to third. Primaries are all about momentum, and last night, Hillary Clinton lost a lot of it.”

Tom Oldani, I’d like you to show me a poll where Hillary Clinton started in first place in Iowa, as you state.

There is none. She DID NOT start in first place in Iowa. John Edwards did, for months, not days.
Since that was a lie on your part, what you are spreading is called “propaganda.”

I’ll agree that Clinton lost momentum with her third place in Iowa. Fine.
So did Edwards.
SO DID THOMPSON!
And THAT was my point.

Do your reputation a favor and stick with the truth. Then we’ll ALL get along.

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Jan - Sheesh. Say something that can be misinterpreted, and all of a sudden I’m a no-good filthy lying propaganda agent. By “started” I meant in the period of, say, between last summer and now. I wasn’t following the polls before that, but they wouldn’t mean much anyway. An article referencing a poll last summer (June 2006) says:

“Polling last week by the New Hampshire-based American Research Group found Clinton leading in Iowa by 6 percentage points, in New Hampshire by 16 percentage points and in South Carolina by 4 percentage points, with Edwards in second in all three states and Obama in third.”

Dispute that if you want, but you wanted one poll and there it is. Since that was a lie on your part, what you are spreading is called “propaganda.” Do your reputation a favor and stick with the truth. Then we’ll ALL get along.

Thompson never had much of any momentum, and Edwards certainly lost momentum, but Clinton was definitely hit the hardest.

Iowa has shown us that the American people can see through the Clintons’ 2-for-1 strategy, which we first heard from Bill back in 1992. At President Bush’s first inauguration, Bill said, “We’ll be back.” It’s part of Bill and Hillary’s life-long plan. Fortunately, it’s been rejected, and we can only hope the rest of the country follows suit.

I did not ask for 2-for-1 then, nor do I ask for it now. That’s just the life-long Clinton strategy that moves Hillary into a position for which she is not qualified.

Every time Bill moves up (Gov of Arkansas), Hillary moves up with him (Attorney General of Arkansas). Bill moves up again (President of the US); Hillary moves up with him (US Senate). See the pattern, women?

Consider what America got with the first Clinton co-Presidency:

• Abuse of the powers of the office of the President
• Granting Presidential pardons to buy Hillary’s election to the Senate. As a woman who made it on my own, Hillary’s need to ride Bill’s coattails and her sense of entitlement (as in “it’s my turn and Obama should wait his turn” makes me doubt her capabilities.
• Hillary’s long-suffering marriage to Bill, enabling a lifetime of sexual trysts and trying to contain the Bimbo eruptions, gives me a President without the backbone to stand up to a man. Hillary claims to be tough enough to play with the boys when, in fact, she is unable to leave a cheating husband. How will she stand up to other male leaders who see this in “Mrs.” Clinton and walk all over her?
• Being married to a former President does not make one qualified to be President.
Hillary has less experience in elected office than Barack. She’s held elected office for one Senate term plus one year and has introduced no major legislation during that time. She showed us in the interview about Pakistani elections the extent of her foreign policy experience–she did not know what office the election was for or who was on the ballot! Is this the kind of experience we want in the Oval Office?

I am not a “Hillary hater;” I am an America lover. Please consider very carefully which candidate the Democratic Party puts on the ballot. The future of this country absolutely depends on it.

If Hillary, heaven forbid, wins the presidency, she will be the first woman in a Clinton administration to sit behind the desk in the Oval Office, rather than under it.

Sent by Gretawire.com to check out your blog.
Please NO MORE Clintons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Greta sent me from Gretawire!

Keep the info coming. I will be sure to follow as I want to make an informed decision in our primary and subsequenty in the election.

Thank you.

I didn’t think her speech sounded that gracious.

Both her and Edwards speeches sounded like victory speeches to me.

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Oops…I mean Greta Wire (typo)

If you really want a better understanding of the high cost of oil, pleaese read the following article.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7048600.stm

The high cost of oil being blamed on President Bush is not true. Although the USA is still the biggest user of oil, it is not the culprit for the increasing demand.

We, the USA, does need to find alternative fuel. Nuclear energy is a very good option.

As for Edwards and his corporation bashing….well, all I can say is “Atlas Shrugged”. Take some time to read it. Government does not create jobs. Hard working people have ideas, create businesses and then hire workers. Edwards made all his money off the backs of working people. He is no better than Clinton, who also made her money off the backs of others and the public dole.

Oh, and why were there no remarks by this producer as to what Mrs. Clinton said on the plane ride to NH?

I remember, she does NOT ride with the press…….to beneath her, I guess..

A president for the people, of the people and by the people.

I think NOT!

someone needs to teach obama about the american flag and how to show respect to it…maybe he will appoint oprah as ambassador to africa…where was her money for our own people that needed it and still do when katrina hit…

have a question for you regarding the Michigan primary.
Hillary is the only dem on the primary ballot…The news last night said write-ins will NOT be allowed only a not commited vote can be cast.

Apparantly it has something to do with the change in our primary date and the DNC or whoever told candidates that they would not recieve funds if they put their name on our ballot….so money trumps the democratic process??????

Future headline….”Hillary wins Michigan”……..this is a sham!!

Would you please cover more of this story in the lead up to the Michigan primary so the nation understands the Hillary win in Michigan??….which will not be a true picture of the democratic voters in this state

added comment…Greta sent me…I blog on GretaWire…

I’ve been sent by http://www.gretawire.com too.

I don’t think Clinton is electable. My opinion is that many democrats would rather have a republican than her…That’s how I feel.

I think Barack is our best chance at changing the ‘mood’ in America and if we have a better self immage, we have a better chance at making every important change necessary.

Hillary is about to go down in New Hampshire too. According to the latest Rasmussen poll, with 37% support compared to Clinton’s 27%.

Ron Paul’s support has jumped from the 10% vote he got in Iowa to 14% in the NH poll.

Since Paul got more support than two of the candidates included in Fox’s Sunday forum in NH, why is he being excluded? :

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9840468-7.html?tag=newsmap

Karen, I’m aware of what they say causes high prices of oil. Instabilty in other countries does cause flexibilty with speculators. I’m not convinced that markets aren’t being moved by these speculators to their advantage. Jim made a good point about the value of the dollar. And yes, China is using more oil driving up the price. Everytime we buy a Chinese product we’re driving up the cost of oil and sending more jobs over there. It doesn’t change the fact that gas is 3 times the cost since Bush took office. Could a president that has ties to the oil industry have a conflict of interest? It’s possible. Could a vice president still have ties to Haliburton who is used in Iraq? It’s possible. Anybody that has watched the news the last few years has to have heard the “once again” news of record profits of oil companies. One other reason has been cited is the lack of oil refineries. Why would an oil company that is making record profits build a private refinary that would lower their profits.? How about a windfall profit tax? If you think oil companies are really honest you might want to do some reading on Kerr-McGee. Our government (the people) are supposed to receive royalties from off shore drilling (the people’s oil). Seems to be some cooking of the books going on. The government is receiving less than a quarter of the royalties since when Clinton was president to now. Yet this oil is sold back to us at these record prices.

I’m not for nuclear energy. Too much nuclear waste. Maybe if they build one in the center of New York or Los Angeles or next to anyone’s house who favor’s nuclear energy to prove how safe it is then it would build confidence with people.

Edwards has went to court for hard working people. Not every corporation is bad but there are irresponsible corporations out there. I don’t know how you could possilble take up for Enron or Worldcom or some of these other companies. Enron was linked to CA blackouts in 2000 for the reason of manipulative energy trading. Citibank was thrown out of Japan for not obeying their rules. Credit card companies pushed the bankruptcy act of 2005 yet have their shady practices to create profits. Sen. Orin Hatch said, “people ought to pay their bills.” Maybe he should work paying the 8 trillion plus debt of this country. In my state we just paid 15 million for a private bridge and road for a company on top of all the other incentives they received. It will take a very, very long time to get that back in taxes assuming they stay there and not move. Most businesses are sole proprietors or are partners. They don’t enjoy the limited liabilty of a corporation. Most people think that a individual should take respoinsibility for their action. This thought does not extent to corporations. Corporations are separate entities, or fictious people, and enjoy the same rights as people under the 14th amendment. Some people still refer to corporations and the people who own them as double taxation. It can’t be double taxation if it is a separate entity. Point being some corporations do not have the interest of people other than shareholders nor are they required to. Some of these hard working people, as you say, swindle the pensions of other hardworking people. Some don’t fund their pension plans and the taxpayer gets a bill for that. Sometimes they simply do illegal acts. I hope you don’t condone breaking the law. When corporations do that we all pay one way or another. This is what Edwards is bashing. In my opinion a little Christian morality and obeying the law can go a long way to making this country what it is supposed to be. I apologize for my extended comment.

Dorothy, I don’t want the Clintons. If you think being conniving and a crook is smart then she is smart.

What is her experience? What has she ever done that show management? or leadership?

Toby C. Mackie You are absolutely correct. Not only does he have a Muslim background but the church he now attends is racist.

God help us.